Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Hailstorm and Terradive are there too. But I thought they were Movieverse guys.
There doesn't seem to be any indication of that.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hailstorm and Terradive are there too. But I thought they were Movieverse guys.
Could it be that they are all repurposed as Beast Wars characters? Like Wrecker Hook would be tarantulus?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Emerje wrote:The Megalligator head isn't the one shouting D-6, it's Wrecker Hook shouting it at him, the head is then surprised and finally angered by it. It's really weird reading these from left to right...
Menace-Or? wrote:Interesting how the Titan Master's legs fold up to look like additional barrels in gun mold. Has anyone tried this??
william-james88 wrote:Can you get back to me about the question I asked regarding the costs of forwarding and if the prices youmention include the 500 yen fee or not ?
But... Reverse Convoy wasn't a clone.primalxconvoy wrote:From the bio, it seems that Mega-Ligator and Convo-Bat (my choice of spelling) were cloned test subjects who broke out of a cloning lab (much like Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron) during the G1 period. This was in order to make biometal bodies, and were prototypes to the then subsequent Maximal and Predacon bodies. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the same lab used to birth Reverse Convoy, on the planet)oid) called "Vehicon".
A warrior born on Planet Vehicon. Also an authority on energy production. In actuality, use of the black hole link system Reverse Convoy possesses caused him to become the rebirth of original Destron Emperor of Destruction, G1 Megatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But... Reverse Convoy wasn't a clone.primalxconvoy wrote:From the bio, it seems that Mega-Ligator and Convo-Bat (my choice of spelling) were cloned test subjects who broke out of a cloning lab (much like Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron) during the G1 period. This was in order to make biometal bodies, and were prototypes to the then subsequent Maximal and Predacon bodies. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the same lab used to birth Reverse Convoy, on the planet(oid) called "Vehicon".
This is all his bio says:A warrior born on Planet Vehicon. Also an authority on energy production. In actuality, use of the black hole link system Reverse Convoy possesses caused him to become the rebirth of original Destron Emperor of Destruction, G1 Megatron.
Where did you get that he was a clone birthed in a lab?
This awesome figure, exclusively offered by E-Hobby, commemorates the 20th anniversary of "Beast Wars"! A clone of Optimus Prime (a.k.a. Convoy), the bat-winged Combobat was the result of an attempt to introduce organic elements to Transformers. With his silent flight ability, Combobat was engineered to be an ideal assassin, but he would prefer a different path. He comes with his Headmaster Megalligator, two energy swords, and the Ape-X Arms drone. A 16-page comic book is also included!
I was talking about Reverse Convoy.primalxconvoy wrote:1/ Here is a translated bio of Convo-Bat from Hobby Link Japan:
In a sense, Convobat is "Convoy changed his form in preparation for aerial combat. Unfurling his elastic bat wings, he can fly completely silently, with hovering capabilities. With Convoy's strategic and commanding abilities, he is easily up to the task of scouting without being spotted by enemies." But he is a clone of Convoy; to introduce the traits of organic lifeforms to the next generation of Transformers, Straxus has performed experiments to create the latest hybrid TFs.
With bat-like wings, he can fly and hover in silence, which made him perfect to train as an assassin robot. He rebels from his chosen career and plots to escape. He thinks that Megaligator, from the same stock of experiments and circumstances as him, is his only friend. To compensate for his lack of firepower, his partner drone Ape-X Arms was created.
Ah, headcanon. Got it.primalxconvoy wrote:2/ Yes, officially, Reverse Convoy is not a clone. In MY interpretation, he is.
Well, even before the AVP backstory was written, the RobotMasters fiction itself showed Megatron possessing Reverse Convoy's body to impersonate its original owner from the Planet Vehicon so as to infiltrate the Autobots and gain their trust before stabbing them in the back.primalxconvoy wrote:TFwiki, at the time I came up with that theory, did not have an "ask Vector Prime: section on the character, so I inferred any Tf "born" on a Vehicon planet to be created by Megatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I was talking about Reverse Convoy.primalxconvoy wrote:1/ Here is a translated bio of Convo-Bat from Hobby Link Japan:
I've already seen Convobat's bio (I'm the one who posted it here, even):In a sense, Convobat is "Convoy changed his form in preparation for aerial combat. Unfurling his elastic bat wings, he can fly completely silently, with hovering capabilities. With Convoy's strategic and commanding abilities, he is easily up to the task of scouting without being spotted by enemies." But he is a clone of Convoy; to introduce the traits of organic lifeforms to the next generation of Transformers, Straxus has performed experiments to create the latest hybrid TFs.
With bat-like wings, he can fly and hover in silence, which made him perfect to train as an assassin robot. He rebels from his chosen career and plots to escape. He thinks that Megaligator, from the same stock of experiments and circumstances as him, is his only friend. To compensate for his lack of firepower, his partner drone Ape-X Arms was created.Ah, headcanon. Got it.primalxconvoy wrote:2/ Yes, officially, Reverse Convoy is not a clone. In MY interpretation, he is.
Thought you were speaking of something from Takara before.Well, even before the AVP backstory was written, the RobotMasters fiction itself showed Megatron possessing Reverse Convoy's body to impersonate its original owner from the Planet Vehicon so as to infiltrate the Autobots and gain their trust before stabbing them in the back.primalxconvoy wrote:TFwiki, at the time I came up with that theory, did not have an "ask Vector Prime: section on the character, so I inferred any Tf "born" on a Vehicon planet to be created by Megatron.
Though, looking at the Wiki page, it seems to be missing Reverse Convoy's RobotMasters cartoon info. Odd.
"Rebirth Megatron" was the moniker Megatron assumed while possessing Reverse Convoy's body, yes, but that was because Megatron had been lost in some previous incident and his return in Reverse Convoy's body was like his having been reborn, metaphorically-speaking. Afterward, he'd get released from his possession of Reverse Convoy and return to his old body just in time to partake in events that would lead up to Transformers: The Movie. His time as Rebirth Megatron occurred in 2004-2005 during the post-season 2/pre-movie era of the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline (decades before G2 would occur in the late 2030s).RAR wrote:If I recall correctly Reverse Convoy is also called "Rebirth Megatron" so that is who I see him as myself as a post G2 Megatron.
We'll just have to wait and see what the full comic says.RAR wrote:The Bat and Croc these days I guess could be some sort of clone - but they could also be from a rather interesting alternative Universe where for some reason Transformers were forced to adopt Beast Modes after G2.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RAR wrote:If I recall correctly Reverse Convoy is also called "Rebirth Megatron" so that is who I see him as myself as a post G2 Megatron.
The Bat and Croc these days I guess could be some sort of clone - but they could also be from a rather interesting alternative Universe where for some reason Transformers were forced to adopt Beast Modes after G2.
There is a lot to discuss there though - if there is interest in the topic it might warrant it's own thread called something like "The organic Influence on Transformers".
Japanese G-2 (the pack-in manga and story pages) takes place in the late 2030s of the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline. That's what I was referring to.RAR wrote:The only vaguely G2 like events I know of would be something like a Botcon comic or the Historical references to it hinted at buy those making Beast Wars.
Otherwise When I talk about a Post G2 Megatron I'm not really talking about some hypothetical events that may or may not have happened after the cartoon that might got alluded to in some Japanese Comic or other - rather the Western Marvel Comic events and the toyline. That certainly didn't take place in 2030.
Besides Transformers gets a bit mind-bending if you try to shoe horn in everything some where like the endless versions of Nemesis Prime / Scourge or even different incarnations of Bludgeon.
I was talking about G2 in a 1990's sense anyway. The other reason I suggested that was his body type is pretty much the same as the G2 Tank Megatron too - all be a smaller one.
[Boy being a Transformers fan is so like being a Star Trek fan sometimes - in that you are having to watch people tie themselves in knots to fit things in a timeline in both franchises]
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RAR wrote:
Besides Transformers gets a bit mind-bending if you try to shoe horn in everything some where like the endless versions of Nemesis Prime / Scourge or even different incarnations of Bludgeon.
Dr Va'al wrote:After the first page we saw here, for the upcoming eHobby exclusive Combobat (Convobat) set - a repaint of Titans Return Mindwipe, Titan Master Infinitus, Prime Wheeljack's swords and the little tank that accompanies Legeds Hardhead, plus Nucleon to combine with Skullcruncher for a Megalligator surrogate - we have a second page from the comic! Mirrored below, we see Wrecker Hook again, along with the Megalligator head and ..Generations Straxus? Check it out, and let us know what you think.
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