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by **pie-man** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:07 pm

I think it's meant to represent a "flashback" to the scene way back where Cyclonus kicks/stomps Tailgate before they got together. It was around that time when Tailgate declared to Magnus that he wanted to become a Decepticon after spending time with Cyclonus and then went and confronted him.

by **Shockwave 8** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:38 pm

Indeed. It is just showing what Cyclonus is apologizing for. I remember being confused at first too.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:14 am

Finally got around to reading 6. Wasn't too impressed with it but it does move the plot along. I feel like they could have done a lot more with it and Rung getting temporarily killed was just for shock value. I knew Rung wouldn't be permanently killed because if he were to die pointlessly it would probably piss off half the MTMTE fanbase. The sight of him laying there dead did make me a bit uncomfortable but it was so predictable I didn't even truly get upset, even as much as I like the little nerdy fella. Also the ending of them being back didn't really feel eventful? There were some lighthearted moments that made me happy but something feels missing? IDK maybe I am being too picky. I'll give it a second read when I am in a more neutral state of mind.

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:51 am

Shockwave 8 wrote:Indeed. It is just showing what Cyclonus is apologizing for. I remember being confused at first too.

Thanks for answering tha questions guys. Yea, looking at it knowing this, it makes sense, but i had forgotten about that time.

by **SimianProphet** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:09 pm

I quite liked the book, and Jack Lawrence's art is improving by the issue. So here are my thoughts on where the story might be going. This is just me extrapolating a few thoughts, but I'll put it in spoiler tags anyways, just in case:

What if: Is this the beginnings of a mirror universe (like Shattered Glass)?

The Functionist universe was created by an alternate timeline where Megatron did not exist, and the ramifications of this was that the Functionist government was not torn down. But remember that Megatron also had a huge influence on Orion Pax, and without that influence, he may not be the Op we now know. Perhaps without Megatron's influence, Pax might have been a more willing participant of the functionist government.

While Mirror Universes may be a bit of a cliché these days, having one that is a logical offshoot of established story and character events would actually be pretty cool. Unless I'm completely wrong, and none of that happens. Roberts will surely follow of on the ending with Megatron receiving contact from Optimus, but we'll have to see which side Optimus is on now.

We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:39 am

SimianProphet wrote:We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.

That would be very interesting. I would read that story for sure.

by **ricemazter** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:56 am

WreckerJack wrote:
SimianProphet wrote:We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.

That would be very interesting. I would read that story for sure.

That would be kind of cool. I always wanted to see a more fleshed out
shattered glass universe. It's one of those concepts with a lot of potential, but poor execution. My personal fan fic would be to take Optimus' and Megatron's positions and reverse the consequences.

EX:
Both want to change the world away from functionist control, but Optimus still believes in working with the system. He gradually rises in rank, coming incredibly close to the functionist council. However, he's witnessed/participated in too many terrible things by that point to retain his optimism/faith. He uses the support he's amassed to stage a coup, violently taking on the council, which fights back. Megatron sees the conflict getting out of hand and steps in
Eventually Optimus defeats the council and turns his full attention to Megatron and his decepticons.

One thing I always liked about SG was that Optimus was actually insane, talking to corpses and such. I remember a throwaway line in IDW where Hot Rod describes his interface with the matrix and being connected to all transformers as pleasant while Optimus experienced pain. In a new SG universe, maybe the council notices Optimus' matrix affinity. They offer him the matrix and the primacy for his years of loyal service. He finally believes himself in a position to change cybertron for the better. However, upon interfacing with the matrix for the first time, the sudden connection to all cybertronians and the pain he's inflicted drive him mad. Then he resorts to violence

Just headcanon.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:58 pm

It would make for an interesting read.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:06 pm

Thanks to Seibertronian ScottyP, we have word that iTunes has uploaded the next Lost Light preview! Lost Light #7 picks up as an epilogue to the first 6 issues, with Rodimus planning his escape using a dead con and some nasty functionalists techniques, typical jokes being thrown about, and a reborn Lug making an appearance. Check out the preview below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Rodimus is really funny here to me. He's being really bad at what he's trying to do.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:27 pm

ScottyP wrote:Rodimus is really funny here to me. He's being really bad at what he's trying to do.

This is why I can't help but love him. He's basically me! :lol:

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:47 pm

I'm thinking between Nightbeat and Brainstorm debating science and the cute moments they are hinting at between Lug and Anode this issue will be better than #6 was. (Not that it would be difficult imho, I just really disliked #6)

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:13 pm

im just not going to bother. ill pick up the trades when they come out but I'm done with this book. its just become a waste of my time every month

by **ricemazter** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:41 am

Randomhero wrote:im just not going to bother. ill pick up the trades when they come out but I'm done with this book. its just become a waste of my time every month

Agreed. I'm going to take a guess and say that the next thing Ratchet is going to say will be something along the lines of "now that Megatron is gone everything is back to normal." This past storyline has basically just felt like an excuse to reset most everything that's taken place since Dawn of the Autobotsn which wouldn't sting so much if it weren't so transparent.

I really can't bring myself to care about Anode and Lug, especially since the latter hasn't actually been present for the 6 issues she was introduced in.

The more I think about it, the more I can't stand Hot Rod and the more the mutiny makes sense. He's becoming more of a petulant, unrepentant heel, and one of the few characters capable of taking him down a peg is gone. I recall the narrowly won captaincy vote after the Overlord affair back before Dark Cybertron and how Hot Rod promised to win his crew back. I can't think of anything he's actually done to accomplish that, though.

News Credits: 10 · by **Omegatron.** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:30 am

Small typo in the news post, "functionalist" should be "functionist".

I wasn't expecting Lug to "grow up" that quickly, or to (apparently) retain all her memories.

by **Windsweeper** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:05 am

I laughed out loud at the Swerve petition conversation.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:50 am

ricemazter wrote:The more I think about it, the more I can't stand Hot Rod and the more the mutiny makes sense. He's becoming more of a petulant, unrepentant heel, and one of the few characters capable of taking him down a peg is gone. I recall the narrowly won captaincy vote after the Overlord affair back before Dark Cybertron and how Hot Rod promised to win his crew back. I can't think of anything he's actually done to accomplish that, though.

This is pretty much my thought pattern too. His season 2 character was kinda crap, and I feel like he degraded, especially since the end of season 1 supposedly had him learning a lesson and actually deciding to try to implement it. It's kind of sad really, considering he set out to be a fairly good character

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:44 pm

Issue #7 of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light sees the return of John Wycough on inks, for Lawrence's lineart - and a breather from the Functionist universe as far as we can tell! Check out the full preview for the issue, courtesy of Multiversity Comics, and head back after Wednesday for a Seibertron.com review.

“Transformers: Lost Light” #7

AFTERMATH! The war with the Functionalists is over—and Rodimus is left wondering whether he won or lost. It’s the beginning of a new chapter for the displaced crew of the Lost Light, as decisions are made that will change their lives forever.

by **RNSrobot** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:57 pm

No. No. No.

Jack Lawrence's art is garbage. What are they standing on there, the oatmeal planet? Why are Cyclonus' thighs each as big as his torso? Why does EVERYBODY look stubby and ill-proportioned? Why are all his bots walking with the same posture? Why is Chromedome suddenly anorexic?

And I'm disgusted by the direction JRo is taking Cyclonus/Tailgate, both in their individual characterizations and their story.

And are you **** KIDDING ME with Anode and Lug? All that **** wasted paper on a new character that was nothing more than yet another witty quippy irrevent smartass, doing an entire "emotional" story that wasn't earned in the slighest, all for "NOW YOU'RE FULLY GROWN AGAIN! IT TOOK A PANEL! HERE'S ALL THE TRUTH!"

So. ****. Done.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blozor** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:29 pm

So, what, he just chucked easily the best character study in Transformers history? Megatron was one of my favorite parts of this story. I haven't read the Dissolution arc yet, but Megatron had better not be gone or gone bad again. I might be done, too.

by **ricemazter** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:39 pm

Blozor wrote:So, what, he just chucked easily the best character study in Transformers history? Megatron was one of my favorite parts of this story. I haven't read the Dissolution arc yet, but Megatron had better not be gone or gone bad again. I might be done, too.

The line where Ratchet says that everyone is glad that Megatron is gone really PO'D me. No, not everyone is glad to be rid of Megatron, JR, especially your readers who were interested in the character. I know Roberts has always been pretty transparent about his dislike for Megatron; I've accepted that and am willing to let him write the story he wants, but he doesn't have to rub it in.

Based on one of the alt-covers, I hope that Minimus will show some sort of attachment to him. As it is, that line implies that the few positive interactions between Megatron and the crew were disingenuous, and that the people he credited as his conscience secretly couldn't stand him.

by **budmaloney** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:11 am

Why didn't the Necrobot save Ultra Magnus...the original one. If this story somehow reveals Ultra Magnus lives, and minimus just stay minimus, I'd be interested in that. We could somehow get back to the white Prime redeco.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:01 am

budmaloney wrote:Why didn't the Necrobot save Ultra Magnus...the original one. If this story somehow reveals Ultra Magnus lives, and minimus just stay minimus, I'd be interested in that. We could somehow get back to the white Prime redeco.

The Necrobot specifically only went back to save people who mysteriously went missing, not change history by preventing someone from dying. In addition, if we assume he didn't know the truth about the Magnus Armour, that would mean he was under the impression that Magnus never died.

by **MightyMegatron** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:45 am

They better get Megatron back or else :michaelbay:

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:01 pm

I actually like Jack Larwence's art. I think he does a good job of drawing bots who have visors, they look like they are sporting some sweet shades. I guess he does sometimes make characters have too large of heads and hands at times but that's a minor pet-peeve.

I personally dislike it when Nick Roche forgets Drift's nose but I won't be nasty about it. Also - why give Drift no nose and Rodimus a different nose in each picture? I can either get hung up on flaws/things I dislike (Considering different artists have different ideas about what a character looks like) or I can enjoy the comics for what they are.

Then again things could be MUCH worse. Back when I used to read Sonic comics there was an artist I could not stand - not going to name names but here is how he drew Sonic and Tails :

I shudder to think about that artist drawing Transformers :SICK:

Either way, I really like that cover of Magnus being all badass. I know my GF is going to want the photo reel one because it's got her favorite characters. So I'll not grump to her about robot noses so long as she is happy.