D-Maximal_Primal wrote:IDW did a lot good, including the longest-running continuity ever, the breakthroughs so many creators were given, and truly allowing for some awesome new and original stuff to come out. I will forever appreciate a lot of that material.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I hope that the new license holder goes a whole new direction. G1 redone will not fly again after the latest continuity run. I want to see something truly new and original. That is my dream, as far fetched as it might be.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, if Skybound gets the license, please for the love of all things good keep NFTs away from Transformers. That trend just needs to go away.
Big Grim wrote:I wonder what that would be like. Could we go dark and gritty? War is not a pretty business after all.~ Grim
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Big Grim wrote:I wonder what that would be like. Could we go dark and gritty? War is not a pretty business after all.~ Grim
That's certainly proven a sticking point in the franchise. Post-Furman IDW seemingly didn't want to write 'war'. So a couple of poorly executed narrative leaps later and war was largely removed from the series. Replaced by talking heads and guffaws.
Then again, G1 only did full on war properly once, in The Movie. The fans at the time didn't like when their favourite suddenly started dying to actual soldiers in combat.
The larger question being would Hasbro allow Transformers to be depicted as such? As a war-based comic?? It is still a "kids brand", after all. Although I think the topic could be used to broach and allegory real world attitudes and events. In a more meaningful way than the individual humanising of MTMTE/LL. But again, fans might complain when wise-cracking but ineffective fighters die en masse.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The issue I had wasn't the shift to a post-combat narrative. It was the way the combat narrative was ended. Which was almost as mishandled as their depiction of Unicron.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Western comics have been in a downward spiral ever since the woke cancer started seeping through. IDW was no exception.
My hope is for the Transformers comics to become a manga instead. A manga written and drawn by Japanese artists that have only good stories in mind without any message.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Cyberverse to me is the definitive G1 redone story, it did it right with the originality. Now that we have that, we need to move beyond G1 redone and just try something new.
Big Grim wrote:I admit the only things I know about Skybound is that it's Robert Kirkman' publishing company, right? Part of Image Comics? Having read "The Walking Dead" and "Invincible", something by Kirkman could be interesting.
~ Grim
william-james88 wrote:I remember saying it then and I will say it here again, Cyberverse is the G1 reboot fans asked for but probably didn't know was fulfilled. It is as much a G1 reboot as possible without simply being the copy of the G1 show with modern animation.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Cyberverse to me is the definitive G1 redone story, it did it right with the originality. Now that we have that, we need to move beyond G1 redone and just try something new.
Yeah Cyberverse is a lot of fun. I gave it a shot out of boredom 1 day and ended up watching the episodes on Netflix in 3 days. I also think the art style would translate well to the comic page.william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Cyberverse to me is the definitive G1 redone story, it did it right with the originality. Now that we have that, we need to move beyond G1 redone and just try something new.
I remember saying it then and I will say it here again, Cyberverse is the G1 reboot fans asked for but probably didn't know was fulfilled. It is as much a G1 reboot as possible without simply being the copy of the G1 show with modern animation.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:I remember saying it then and I will say it here again, Cyberverse is the G1 reboot fans asked for but probably didn't know was fulfilled. It is as much a G1 reboot as possible without simply being the copy of the G1 show with modern animation.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Cyberverse to me is the definitive G1 redone story, it did it right with the originality. Now that we have that, we need to move beyond G1 redone and just try something new.
totally agreed. I love that show so so so much. That was the definition of how to redo it right.
Ratbat wrote:Simon Furman's stories (too many to list) are the best! (But that's just my opinion.)
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Aside from LSotW, Furman's run was the most interesting part of IDWverse too.
Rodimus Prime wrote:To each their own, that stuff was interesting to only a minute part of the fandom, which is why it failed.
Then again, I've never been a fan of the wreckers so to me both Last Stand and Sins was dumb and boring.
I was just going off of what you posted, it seemed that you called the MLP crossover and the other stuff that you liked an interesting failure.AcademyofDrX wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:To each their own, that stuff was interesting to only a minute part of the fandom, which is why it failed.
Then again, I've never been a fan of the wreckers so to me both Last Stand and Sins was dumb and boring.
I don't want to get into a whole debate on it, I think it's ultimately an opinion statement more than something that can be definitely proven, but I do often see people in threads like this declare that certain stories or creative choices were niche or failures, and I fundamentally don't think that's true. There were definitely more people buying IDW comics issues at the early stages of Furman's run, but there's been more stability than not over the last decade or so. I should probably just say, I don't agree that the part of the fandom that likes the stuff I mentioned is "minute" or that it failed, but that's not directly challenging your opinion.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is just a shame we missed out on some official physical representation of their more original redesigns. I'd have preferred Headmaster Sunstreaker, Stormbringer Thunderwing or even Infiltration Starscream over Rung, Drift or Victorion.
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