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[Cyberpath]

Source: https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/posts/2119050938156410

Sigh!

[william-james88]

Preorder up at TFSource
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
450$ USD

[Ironhidensh]

Preorder up at TFSource
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
450$ USD

Well, next year, this guy should be quite the black friday special item.

[Hellscream9999]

Preorder up at TFSource
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
450$ USD

That... is not okay; seriously, anyone pre-ordering this is basically telling TT this trend is okay

[Ironhidensh]

Saw this on Facebook thismorning, so take with a grain of salt. While still not justifying the ridiculous price (and I used to think Fanstoys Dinobots were ridiculous), this list of accessories is very interesting, especially the starscream parts.

[Agamemnon]

BBTS has a preorder up for $449.99, with a $90 non-refundable deposit.

Yeah, if I ever wanted out of my marriage, I'll just buy this....

[Amelie]

I've got a limit on what I'm willing to spend on a figure and $400 dollars is definitely past that. Maybe I could have swallowed $350, definitely $300, but $450 feels more like blood money. Especially when I compare the money to the dent I could make in replacing my G1 Vintage collection.

Heck, I could go on holiday. To Italy. For not much more...

[william-james88]

While some were hoping the very high price we saw yesterday was some kind of mistake or misunderstanding, the 50,000 Yen price is here to stay for Masterpiece Optimus Prime Ver 3.

Loopaza confirmed it in their rundown of upcoming Takara releases in May and August which show which also show which toys from the Siege line will come out in that time. The prices are all MSRP.



We also have domestice preorders up for those who can't wait for this new Prime. Both BBTS and TFSource have this toy priced at $449.99:

BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/84183

TFSource: https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/

While the price is the highest we have ever seen, this toy does come with more accessories than all the recently high priced Masterpiece releases, one of which is a trailer.

Aside from the trailer, here is the list of accessories the toy is said to come with according to a post on Weibo. Since this is translated from chinese, there may be some parts lost in translation, the words in parenthese are a possible interpretation.

box, content:

- main body X1 (Optimus Prime)
- compartment X1 (trailer)
- cabin anti-aircraft gun X1
- small ball X1 (Roller)
- energy axe X1
- beam special effects X2
- laser rifle X1
- energy treasure X1 (the matrix)
- energy supply tube X1 (fuel hose for Roller)
- Spike X1
- Carly X1
- Spike Pula X1 (Sparkplug)
- Rocket Backpack X1 (Jet pack)
- Starscream Head X1 (to re-enact when Starscream is dressed up as Prime)
- Starscream Wings Accessories X1 (most probably the shoulder pylons to re-enact when Starscream is dressed up as Prime)
- An Unknown Item X1
- Replacement Head Carving X1 (Different face)
- War Damage Head X1
- Battle Damage Chest Parts X1
- character card X1

[TulioDude]

I wonder if the Starscream head is gonna match the previous Masterpiece version of him,or if it will be all new.

[DecepticonFinishline]

Looks like I may have to duck out of Masterpiece. I have to get each unique number, but I can't afford this. I don't even CARE about most of those accessories.

[Amelie]

I wonder if the Starscream head is gonna match the previous Masterpiece version of him,or if it will be all new.

I'll hazard a guess that MP-40~something Starscream is around the corner and will feature the same head this Optimus Prime toy does...

[Nemesis Maximo]

Makes me glad I’m sticking with MP ‘Cons and Beast Wars.

But HOT DAMN that’s some serious dough.

[Coptur]

oh hell no!!!

i'm not pay that kind of money for 1 toy.

Optimus Prime didn't need re-doing why not put money into Reflector or someone else. (oh yeah Optimus sells )

i hope either a non jingles and jangles version gets release later on or this this will mark the end of masterpiece as a line.

if we want this line to continue the wider fan should protest/boycot this toy they wet everyone lips with BW Megatron and now they're taking us for a ride.

[Torneira]

This is where I draw the line at the Masterpiece's line.
They crossed it at a price range between 250-300 for this version.
With shippingcost this is just too ludicrous high priced.
I have mp01 and 10 and I'll wait for a price drop and otherwise I rather spend my money on vacation.

[wilcosu35]

The price is high, but most of the usual suspect retailers will probably offer this for less.
Also, i'm not sure about you guys but i wasn't expecting this thing to be carbot priced.
He's large and easily more complicated than MP-10 by the looks of him. He also features a sound unit and a large trailer AND also comes with a large list of accessories.
On top of it all, he's probably covered in a large amount of paint. Considering MP-41's and -43's prices, it's entirely expected that he'd be expensive.
Ofcourse that doesn't mean he's easily affordable, and i respect people saying they won't be getting this because of the price, but what were you expecting price-wise? $100? $200? Given the amount of plastic alone, we should have expected a much higher price than MP-43.

Ofcourse i'm open to discussion, but i don't think what i'm saying is unrealistic.

As for my opinion on him: I'm looking forward to seeing more photos of him, he'll definitely be added to the collection. MP is my main collection and they're not exactly releasing hordes of them at the same time, the way they do Generations and Studio Series, which may be cheaper individually but come in much larger amounts.

[Amelie]

Optimus Prime didn't need re-doing

I disagree there. The previous Masterpiece Optimus Prime toys looked out of place when put up against Megatron, Shockwave or Sunstreaker. I'll agree that MP-10 is an excellent toy, but its no longer in keeping with what Takara are going for and since Prime\Convoy is the posterboy of the entire franchise, it would be odd to keep the old aesthetic going on.

The price, however, is mental. I'd expect Hasbro to pick this figure up and do some justice on the price front, though.

[Nathaniel Prime]

With that price and all of those accessories, not to forget PRICE, this better be the absolute last Masterpiece Prime people will buy, with MP-36 level complexity(or higher), holy level quality, and the same amout of articulation as MP-36. ALL THAT SAID, I feel it will be promising, plus battle damage accessories(finally!) I will be honest though, I was NOT expecting the Starscream parts, but why was I surprised? Takara does this all the time. Hopefully the humans he comes with will be in scale with Prime in both modes

[Coptur]

i would however be up for a bare-bones version sans electronics

[ScottyP]

Sometimes, stuff is too expensive. Full stop. Nothing else to it, just plain costs too much. I feel like this is one of those times.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Optimus Prime didn't need re-doing

I disagree there. The previous Masterpiece Optimus Prime toys looked out of place when put up against Megatron, Shockwave or Sunstreaker. I'll agree that MP-10 is an excellent toy, but its no longer in keeping with what Takara are going for and since Prime\Convoy is the posterboy of the entire franchise, it would be odd to keep the old aesthetic going on.

The price, however, is mental. I'd expect Hasbro to pick this figure up and do some justice on the price front, though.

MP-01/MP-04, maybe, but that's because MP-01 is out of scale with everything but MP-05 and both of those figures suck. MP-05 omits the stock and silencer, has trouble standing, is very fiddly and frail in spots because of the designer reinventing the wheel, and has rust problems. MP-01 can't bend forward at the waist, and MP-04 omits Roller.

I've seen photos of MP-10 with the newer Masterpieces like MP-36 Megatron (who IMO still reinvents the wheel too much), and he holds up just fine. Really the only thing about him that needs work is the realism of the truck cab's bed, which MP-44 does not exactly look to be an improvement on. In fact, MP-44's truck bed looks about as convincingly disguised as Studio Series Optimus'. Also, if MP-44's larger size is indicative of a scale shift, then it's not "bringing Optimus up to the new standard" at all.

[william-james88]

Sometimes, stuff is too expensive. Full stop. Nothing else to it, just plain costs too much. I feel like this is one of those times.

Same here. I will not be purchasing it.

[ScottyP]

Sometimes, stuff is too expensive. Full stop. Nothing else to it, just plain costs too much. I feel like this is one of those times.

Same here. I will not be purchasing it.

I'm still going to buy one but I'm going to feel bad about it. Will just have to set some aside ahead of time, but I know a lot of collectors do not have the means, desire, or both to do that which sucks. (Edit: incorrect choice of word) Segmentation is no fun.

[Cyberpath]

Definitely too expansive. I will wait for the Japanese pre-order prices and then think it over.

The Starscream props are completely unnecessary IMO. Stick to the must-have pieces, Takara.

I wonder if Takara is aware that there are two upcoming unlicensed alternatives to MP-44. (Transform Element TE-01 + MS-TOYS MS-01.) That more or less try to achieve the same thing -- a more cartoon-accurate MP Prime.

[william-james88]

Definitely too expansive. I will wait for the Japanese pre-order prices and then think it over.

The Starscream props are completely unnecessary IMO. Stick to the must-have pieces, Takara.

We can already guess what they will be. Preorder prices will be between 35,000 and 40,000. Would you go for that?

[no-one]

Optimus Prime didn't need re-doing

I disagree there. The previous Masterpiece Optimus Prime toys looked out of place when put up against Megatron, Shockwave or Sunstreaker. I'll agree that MP-10 is an excellent toy, but its no longer in keeping with what Takara are going for and since Prime\Convoy is the posterboy of the entire franchise, it would be odd to keep the old aesthetic going on.

I don't like it, but I agree, MP-10 does look out of place now. But I'm also not a fan of the new MP aesthetic.

Sometimes, stuff is too expensive. Full stop. Nothing else to it, just plain costs too much. I feel like this is one of those times.

I also agree with this. It just continues to march on with a bad precedent.

The Starscream props are completely unnecessary IMO. Stick to the must-have pieces, Takara.

That also seems to be the new deal, just tossing random **** in a box. Do we really need to re-enact every one off scene from the show?