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[D-Maximal_Primal]

Could you please provide us enough detail as to when the clips of RID Season 2 will be posted online before the cartoon hits this February 2016?

What season 2 clips? We know nothing of any clips right now.

Was he referring to the cyclone clips?

Those were just shorts, though.

Yeah they were, I just didn't know if he thought they were actual show clips or not. Could've confused some people

[o.supreme]

I missed where CN confirmed these were shorts... they appeared to me to be clips from upcoming episodes. Why would they make a short of a story about Autobots & Decepticons going after new Minicons that has no conclusion?

[Sabrblade]

I missed where CN confirmed these were shorts... they appeared to me to be clips from upcoming episodes. Why would they make a short of a story about Autobots & Decepticons going after new Minicons that has no conclusion?

But there was a conclusion. All six shorts got posted on Hasbro's website.

[o.supreme]

Thanks, I had only seen the first two. Still, with all six scenes put together, this seems to be about 13 minuets of footage. (13:24 to be exact minus 36 seconds for six "six second" title cards=12:48) Add in probably an unseen intro, and maybe a few minutes of a B-plot in-between, and it appears to easily be a fully fleshed out episode. Keep in mind the other clips on Hasbro's website (character intros etc..) were all scenes from the actual show. When I think of shorts. I think of TFA, where the shorts clearly had no connection to any episode and were all self contained. Still, It's not that big a deal, we'll find out in a few months either way.

[psj333]

For Season 2, are we going to see Clipshade go head-to-head with Steeljaw? It would be interesting to see these two dogs battle each other out. Consider this: German shepherd versus a wolf. Which one will likely win?

[Madeus Prime]

AH, I'm back fellas. Glad to hear that Season 2 will be the last of RID. Not that it was bad or anything, but I really want to see some new toys on the shelves before TF5 hits the fan.

Fingers crossed for Crazybolt to show up in the show, I love his design!

For Season 2, are we going to see Clipshade go head-to-head with Steeljaw? It would be interesting to see these two dogs battle each other out. Consider this: German shepherd versus a wolf. Which one will likely win?

And it's good to see some things never change . Once again psj, extremely low to nochance that any characters from the IDW comics would be showing up in the cartoon. Kids don't read the comics, and kids are the target audience, so it wouldn't make sense to throw in Clipshade in the show. Besides, how would they explain his position in that universe? They would have to introduce the Cybercomrade Sect, as well as Ultra Magnus and his team!

[psj333]

Madeus_Prime, that might be true. However, what you might not realize is that the last two issues of the IDW RID comics are being used as prequels to Season 2. For those who have already read issue #5, you will note that Steeljaw is planning to build an army of his own by recruiting 3 Vehicons to be on his team. At the end of the issue, when the Vehicons retreated after they were no match for the Autobots, Steeljaw has already informed them, that he has successfully kidnapped Denny and Fixit. He told the Autobots to either have all of his fellow friends released from prison, or that he will have Fixit and Denny killed on the spot if they don't comply. This will be determined in issue #6 which leads to Season 2. Will Bumblebee be intimidated by this?

Also if Clipshade chose not to show up for Season 2, then so be it. But I'm quite certain that Hasbro will introduce an Autobot spy for Season 2, to say the least.


And as you pointed out earlier, you were hoping that Hasbro will bring out the Decepticon toys that many of us really hoped for. I do too. Unfortunately, at this time, they decided to hold that back. This is not to say that Decepticon characters are not popular, but they did it on purpose. Why? They needed more time to finish creating all props and accessories for fans to use. These include, coloring books, stickers, lunch boxes, watches, thermos, weapons, masks, Halloween costumes, candy despensers, and most recently, coffee mugs. Once that's done, then they will give the fans what they really want.

[Madeus Prime]

Madeus_Prime, that might be true. However, what you might not realize is that the last two issues of the IDW RID comics are being used as prequels to Season 2.

My guess is, guess mind you, is that it will not be referenced in the slightest. Not enough of the target audience read the comics, like I said, so why would they connect the show into it. Perhaps the comic will lead into Season 2, but Season 2 won't lead from the comic. It simply doesn't make sense to write in the IDW comics into the cartoon mythos, because no kids will have read them to have it make sense.

Also if Clipshade chose not to show up for Season 2, then so be it. But I'm quite certain that Hasbro will introduce an Autobot spy for Season 2, to say the least.

Maybe? There has been no evidence of such, but it's possible.

This is not to say that Decepticon characters are not popular, but they did it on purpose. Why? They needed more time to finish creating all props and accessories for fans to use.

Erm, no actually. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hasbro's merchandise department and toy department are not run by the same guy. The reason no Decepticons are being made is because Hasbro thinks that kids only ever like toys of the good guys. That's the reason, not because they wanted to give its target audience:

coloring books, stickers, lunch boxes, watches, thermos, weapons, masks, Halloween costumes, candy despensers, and most recently, coffee mugs

I can safely say that almost nobody on here buys these, short of maybe the coffee mugs. Plus kids don't use about 75% of that stuff (When was the last time you saw a kid with a coloring book?).

[psj333]

Look, Madeus_Prime, I do understand where you're form. However, correct me if I'm wrong. But in case you didn't get my point, I'm say that only issue 5 and issue 6 are set right after Season 1. On the other, issues 1, 2, 3, and 4 have no relations with Season 1 or 2 in any way. Only 5 and 6, got that now? The reason why I said this is because, I've read the comic so that I know what the story is all about. That will be continued in issue 6, right before Season 2 starts. This has absolutely to do with issues 1, 2, 3, and 4. Those issues have stories of their own, whereas 5 and 6 are like prequels to Season 2. If you still can't handle that, then that's fine. But you know what? We'll see about that, when issue 6 comes out and see what will Steeljaw will do to Fixit if the Autobots don't comply.

[Va'al]

The comics series is a tie-in to the animated series, but depends on the latter, rather than informing it.

In other words: if something happens in the cartoon, it will be canon for the comics, but if it happens in the comics, it doesn't meant the cartoon acknowledges it.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm more just wondering when we will hear of actual dates and information for season 2, like the definite stuff. And which Prime characters will show up. Ratchet is a guess since they are making a toy of him

[Shuttershock]

I'm more just wondering when we will hear of actual dates and information for season 2, like the definite stuff. And which Prime characters will show up. Ratchet is a guess since they are making a toy of him

Hard to say. It's been strangely silent on that front.

As a side note: I'm not saying it won't happen, but toys don't necessarily guarantee show appearances. By that same token, Quillfire and Springload getting new toys doesn't guarantee they'll be back this season.

It would be fun to see SOME callbacks to Prime like Ratchet or Fowler.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm more just wondering when we will hear of actual dates and information for season 2, like the definite stuff. And which Prime characters will show up. Ratchet is a guess since they are making a toy of him

Hard to say. It's been strangely silent on that front.

As a side note: I'm not saying it won't happen, but toys don't necessarily guarantee show appearances. By that same token, Quillfire and Springload getting new toys doesn't guarantee they'll be back this season.

It would be fun to see SOME callbacks to Prime like Ratchet or Fowler.

deviating slightly, I think Quillfire and Springload are getting toys due to the one episode where they broke out, and the duo appears to have caused quite a stir. people like those crazy cons!

And toys should never indicate that character will appear. every movie and every tv show has non-show toys, and we should treat all these new cons as such until proven otherwise. never hurts to be proven otherwise anyway

[o.supreme]

I doubt any humans from Prime would appear, but it would be nice as we could approximate the passage of time between the end of Prime & RID. It could be 20 years, or 200 for all we know.

I would not be surprised if season 2 started in Japan before the US however. I believe season 1 just finished in Japan, and they don't usually like to take long breaks between season like the United States does. Still however, with the supposed attempt at simulcasting these as soon as possible, old standards could be out the window. I would possibly guess season 2 will Start in March 2016, around the same time season 1 started last year, so the entire season could hopefully be shown with little to no interruption.

[Shuttershock]

I doubt any humans from Prime would appear, but it would be nice as we could approximate the passage of time between the end of Prime & RID. It could be 20 years, or 200 for all we know.

That actually would be kind of an interesting thought. At least it would explain why Bee never goes back to any of his old contacts on Earth or Cybertron. Also explains why Cybertron is fully up and running, enough so that the Decepticon we've seen could be new waves of Predacons.

Still, to me it would have made sense to try to contact Fowler at least once, him being their former liaison with the government and all who might be able to help with crowd control.

[Sabrblade]

I doubt any humans from Prime would appear, but it would be nice as we could approximate the passage of time between the end of Prime & RID. It could be 20 years, or 200 for all we know.

That actually would be kind of an interesting thought. At least it would explain why Bee never goes back to any of his old contacts on Earth or Cybertron. Also explains why Cybertron is fully up and running, enough so that the Decepticon we've seen could be new waves of Predacons.

Still, to me it would have made sense to try to contact Fowler at least once, him being their former liaison with the government and all who might be able to help with crowd control.

Someone on another board once said that, based on what's supposed to happen in Rescue Bots season 4, it would be hilarious if Crown City's populace already knew about the existence of the Transformers (with Denny and Russell at this show's beginning being the odd exception) and that the Bee Team going out of its way to hide themselves and pretend they aren't alive all this time was for nothing.

[o.supreme]

Someone on another board once said that, based on what's supposed to happen in Rescue Bots season 4, it would be hilarious if Crown City's populace already knew about the existence of the Transformers (with Denny and Russell at this show's beginning being the odd exception) and that the Bee Team going out of its way to hide themselves and pretend they aren't alive all this time was for nothing.

That's actually kind of how I felt. By the end of Prime, even with all the attempts to wipe out images on the internet etc... Do you think any organization on earth (FBI, CIA whatever) could silence an entire town, even a small hick town in the middle of nowhere in Nevada, when a big ass Decepticon Fortress appeared? And yeah, not everyone in Griffin Rock I would think is going to hide their discovery from the world either, now that they know.

That is one of the reasons why I never liked TF: Cybertron. Though it was for younger audiences, and an anime. The fact that in the US version it was supposed to be the 3rd part of a Trilogy, where the TF's go back to "Robots in Disguise" after um... having whole cities of their own on Earth in Energon, and working with humans?? Also it probably didn't help that I watched Galaxy Force first where this truly was a separate series as it was intended to be.

[Sabrblade]

That is one of the reasons why I never liked TF: Cybertron. Though it was for younger audiences, and an anime. The fact that in the US version it was supposed to be the 3rd part of a Trilogy, where the TF's go back to "Robots in Disguise" after um... having whole cities of their own on Earth in Energon, and working with humans?? Also it probably didn't help that I watched Galaxy Force first where this truly was a separate series as it was intended to be.

The thing most people forget about Energon's whole "Cybertron Cities on Earth" and "Autobots working with humans:" thing is that all those cities were located in remote, uninhabited areas of the world far away from all populated human civilizations. And all the people who lived and worked in those cities were specifically either government personnel or their family members. There were no regular civilians who weren't affiliated with the government in that show. The Cybertron Cities and every human who worked in them were all completely cut off and isolated from the rest of the world, with the show never taking the characters into any normal human cities or civilizations outside of the Cybertron Cities.

Ergo, it is likely that the Autobots being stationed on Earth in those cities was a big secret that the government tried to keep from the rest of humanity, as any human living in those cities never had any reason to leave since they had all the necessities of home right where they were. The only humans who came and left from the cities that we ever saw were Alexis (due to her job keeping her from staying in one place for too long) and drivers of equipment delivery trucks (whom for all they knew probably thought they were just delivering their goods to remote government bases--after all, this was the future--rather than alien settlements).

Now, the series never got around to touching upon this subject, but that's just another of its many many signs of being poorly written and poorly executed.

And, there was the whole notion of the black hole mucking up time and space that it messed up everyone's memories.

And Galaxy Force was always supposed to be another sequel from its conception. It's just that someone on the Japanese end either didn't get that memo or did and just chose to ignore it, resulting in its being more of a fresh start. Luckily, though, Takara themselves put the series back in its originally-intended place as another sequel (though placing it just one year after Super Link, as opposed to Cybertron's ten years after Energon, was ludicrous).

[psj333]

For those who are curious to know what Pseudo's robot mode is based on or how it can created, this is how the animal for Pseudo's robot mode is created:



https://youtu.be/Lm-d3lQUU1s

that lead to the creation of this:



http://static.squarespace.com/static/51 ... Porter.jpg

to which this is based on Pseudo's robot mode:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/7/71/Pseudo.jpg

[JoeMabbon]

Sabrblade wrote:
Someone on another board once said that, based on what's supposed to happen in Rescue Bots season 4, it would be hilarious if Crown City's populace already knew about the existence of the Transformers (with Denny and Russell at this show's beginning being the odd exception) and that the Bee Team going out of its way to hide themselves and pretend they aren't alive all this time was for nothing.

I hope that's not the case. That feels like the kind of pointless, self-referential in-joke that would cheapen the series and that's coming from someone who thinks the show's masquerade is ridiculous.

psj333, I think we would've gotten your point without that first link.

[o.supreme]

I was just viewing online Netflix releases for January. Still sadly however no RiD Season 1. Other Hasbro shows such as Littlest Pet Shop season 4 are being added however. I just wonder what the hold up is. Is it because S!F has another 5 episode DVD coming out Feb 9th? I guess I just find it odd since Prime & Rescue Bots were both added to Netflix with regularity in pretty short order (and RB doesn't even have all its episodes on DVD, they just have random single DVD's). I guess my concern is that as the industry moves more and more towards a lack of physical media, that a RiD DVD or BR season set may not become available at all. Currently the only Legal way to "own" all the episodes is on Amazon, and I am not paying $2 SD, or $3 HD for an episode of something I don't physically own.

Of course they could be waiting until closer to the season 2 air date to put season 1 on Netflix, or for S!F to release a full season set. I hope this is the case, but in any event, it just requires at minimum another month of waiting.

[Stuartmaximus]

ah right, so there's still no word on an actual release date for season 2?

also

from the end of the last episode......it looks like we could be seeing more of Prime in season 2

wish they would introduce a new basebot or citybot! then they could be stationed in it instead of a scrapyard & the remains of their spaceship!

also would love to see more of Primus! seeing as he created Windblade.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Yeah, nothing related to season 2 yet. Still waiting on more info for that unfortunately. And yes more Team Prime members are anticipated and very much hoped for here in season 2! Bulkhead please?

[psj333]

You know, D-Maximus_Prime, I would love to see Team Prime return in Season 2 as well. But I'm hoping to see Steeljaw sometime release all the Decepticons from the scrapyard prison so that he will form his own army to get revenge on the Autobots to prove just how tyrannical he really is.

[Sabrblade]

You know, guys, if season 2 really were to be the final season, wouldn't we at least be hearing some kind of rumors for the next cartoon to come after RID? Or would the fifth movie be what's next instead?