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Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:19 pm

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Decidedly "meh" on Wheeljack, not because he doesn't look G1, but I'm not sold on the look yet. Might just be a bad pose for him.

I LOVE Stratosphere. Just an amazing design. The props on the back could allow for flight in robot mode.

Not sure I knew about Transit, but very sweet bot mode. Is a Lambo?
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:26 pm

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Wheeljack's design would be better off as literally someone like Perceptor or Huffer, my god how do you go from the Bumblebee design to Autobot Urkel? I ain't even saying that because of G1 (despite the inconsistency where all the other Autobots look reminiscent of classic designs even Stratosphere looks like an older man and vehicle version of his ROTF toy character with similar body proportions where the wings and cockpit end up, etc) but just by sheer downgrading his look from how he looked in the film before, why did Optimus, Bee and Arcee get to stay consistent but not him? It screams like a Lorenzo decision to make him look like Live action Donatello glasses and all much like how Que being Albert Einstein was a Spielberg call.

Nightbird's definitely cool while that Scourge render is unflattering, Optimus Primal robot mode is just Prime, love it.

Stratosphere looks pretty cool though even with the moustache I don't care that much either way for robot facial hair in the franchise, him being voice by John DiMaggio in addition to his colors and head design with goggles makes me think he's Crosshair's Grandpappy, must of taken the Paratrooper look in honor of him. :P

Transit looks wicked, could the head design be less insect like? Yeah, but it still looks wicked as hell and reminds me of Brimstone (the motorcycle one) from one of the movie toylines.

That also gives the leaks that talked about him by name a lot more credit although I recall the leak describing him as a School Bus and not a City one but overall it's still accurate, him being marked as a Terrocon on that wallpaper is probably more so for marketing purposes since he's apparently the only proper Decepticon in the film in addition to being this film's version of Blitzwing in being an opening hour character meant to get killed.

Whifflefire wrote:I like how Transit looks, too! Too bad there's no alt-mode picture, I can't really tell what he turns into. With a name like that I would think some sort of Taxi or something. These designs seem very lively and characterful. They all deserve some good toys, which I look forward to. It should be easy to follow them on-screen, too.


Turns into a bus like this one hence the amount of wheels, I believe this is a picture of the exact vehicle from the set.

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:26 pm

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First-Aid wrote:Decidedly "meh" on Wheeljack, not because he doesn't look G1, but I'm not sold on the look yet. Might just be a bad pose for him.

I LOVE Stratosphere. Just an amazing design. The props on the back could allow for flight in robot mode.

Not sure I knew about Transit, but very sweet bot mode. Is a Lambo?


Is a bus
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:42 pm

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Interesting that Transit has a Decepticon insignia on his head, but is marketed as a Terrorcon? Wondering if this is just for the sake of marketing consistency, or something to do with the plot.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:44 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:Interesting that Transit has a Decepticon insignia on his head, but is marketed as a Terrorcon? Wondering if this is just for the sake of marketing consistency, or something to do with the plot.
Well, remember how AOE marketed all of its bad guy robots as Decepticons when neither Lockdown nor any of the KSI Prototypes were really Decepticons in the movie.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Interesting that Transit has a Decepticon insignia on his head, but is marketed as a Terrorcon? Wondering if this is just for the sake of marketing consistency, or something to do with the plot.
Well, remember how AOE marketed all of its bad guy robots as Decepticons when neither Lockdown nor any of the KSI Prototypes were really Decepticons in the movie.


That’s a good point. In the end, Galvatron was the only true Decepticon present. My theory is that the Bots have been tracking down Decepticon scouts since the BB movie (in anticipation of a Con Armada), and perhaps this particular scout found his way to the ancient(?) faction of Terrorcons, and fell in with Scourge.

All speculation of course, but I look forward to seeing him in action either way (and maybe in toy form).
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Interesting that Transit has a Decepticon insignia on his head, but is marketed as a Terrorcon? Wondering if this is just for the sake of marketing consistency, or something to do with the plot.
Well, remember how AOE marketed all of its bad guy robots as Decepticons when neither Lockdown nor any of the KSI Prototypes were really Decepticons in the movie.


That’s a good point. In the end, Galvatron was the only true Decepticon present. My theory is that the Bots have been tracking down Decepticon scouts since the BB movie (in anticipation of a Con Armada), and perhaps this particular scout found his way to the ancient(?) faction of Terrorcons, and fell in with Scourge.

All speculation of course, but I look forward to seeing him in action either way (and maybe in toy form).
Current scuttlebutt is that Transit gets Blitzwing'd early on in the movie, remaining the only true Decepticon in the movie before getting the ax.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:55 pm

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Whifflefire wrote:I like how Transit looks, too! Too bad there's no alt-mode picture, I can't really tell what he turns into. With a name like that I would think some sort of Taxi or something. These designs seem very lively and characterful. They all deserve some good toys, which I look forward to. It should be easy to follow them on-screen, too.


Turns into a bus like this one hence the amount of wheels, I believe this is a picture of the exact vehicle from the set.

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Ooh, that's different! Even if he turns out to be a minor role, it's cool that there could finally be a bus Transformer.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Decidedly "meh" on Wheeljack, not because he doesn't look G1, but I'm not sold on the look yet. Might just be a bad pose for him.

I LOVE Stratosphere. Just an amazing design. The props on the back could allow for flight in robot mode.

Not sure I knew about Transit, but very sweet bot mode. Is a Lambo?


Is a bus


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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm

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Whifflefire wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:I like how Transit looks, too! Too bad there's no alt-mode picture, I can't really tell what he turns into. With a name like that I would think some sort of Taxi or something. These designs seem very lively and characterful. They all deserve some good toys, which I look forward to. It should be easy to follow them on-screen, too.


Turns into a bus like this one hence the amount of wheels, I believe this is a picture of the exact vehicle from the set.

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Ooh, that's different! Even if he turns out to be a minor role, it's cool that there could finally be a bus Transformer.


Maybe he survives....



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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Hero Alpha » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:17 pm

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I have came to terms very long ago, with the fact, that the live action movies and movie designs are not made for me. With the exception of the first 4 minutes of Bumblebee, then Bee himself in it. Transit is kinda cool looking though and I dont remember ever having a bus alt mode, so that is something. Also Prime, Primal and Bee look real good.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:25 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:Interesting that Transit has a Decepticon insignia on his head, but is marketed as a Terrorcon? Wondering if this is just for the sake of marketing consistency, or something to do with the plot.


Weren't the terrorcons initially described as a third faction made up of bots that started as either Decepticon or Autobot?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:04 pm

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Nightbird being a Decepticon defector is something I recall from somewhere so it's possible that also applies to other Terrocons but we'll see.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:49 am

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Remember, the Battletrap render on his toy's box has him with a Decepticon symbol on his head, so Transit and Battletrap both have clear con symbols on them but are marketed as Terrorcons. Just something to chew on, I believe the Terrorcons are former decepticons myself.

As for the renders, there is some really cool stuff going on here that really tickles my taste buds.

Stratosphere looking like a older version of his RotF self is a really nice carryover, and convincing to me that they are the same character. I love his design, he is faultless. Plus, his wings seem to become most of his arms, which is real neat.

Transit looks freaky and I love it, especially as a bus-former. I hope he gets a toy.

Wheeljack looks good, I am a big fan of that design. I love the seatbelts as suspenders look! His design looks good, and is one of my 4 favorites so far along with Stratosphere, Battletrap, and Primal.

Speaking of, Primal's robot mode looks nice and sharp, I love it! They did him good!

Nightbird looks nice too, I love how she looks. I am particularly liking her headsculpt and wingpack
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New Images of Nightbird and Wheeljack from Transformers Rise of the Beasts

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:51 pm

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With the Transformers Rise of the Beasts toys released at retail now, we have images of the character models on the boxes and some are new. Like these two of Nightbird and Wheeljack, two bots which we didn't see much of in the marketing so far.

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:20 pm

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Nightbird looks like a Star Wars villain.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:25 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Nightbird looks like a Star Wars villain.


I was thinking more of someone from Thanos' crew
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis_1982 » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:25 am

Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:42 am

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Nemesis_1982 wrote:Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.

Actually...it's being going on since G1 ;) both Alpha Trion and Scourge are rocking beards and moustaches. We've had almost 40 years of designs so I'm not surprised to see them exploring more in this space.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:14 pm

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Nemesis_1982 wrote:Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.

Actually...it's being going on since G1 ;) both Alpha Trion and Scourge are rocking beards and moustaches. We've had almost 40 years of designs so I'm not surprised to see them exploring more in this space.


Well, these bots are able to alter themselves as they see fit. Why not let them change their appearance at will?

"I'm tired of the lighty things on the side of my face when I talk...Imma go with something different for a change" (concentrates hard...face changes)

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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Quantum Surge » Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:51 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Nemesis_1982 wrote:Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.

Actually...it's being going on since G1 ;) both Alpha Trion and Scourge are rocking beards and moustaches. We've had almost 40 years of designs so I'm not surprised to see them exploring more in this space.


Well, these bots are able to alter themselves as they see fit. Why not let them change their appearance at will?

"I'm tired of the lighty things on the side of my face when I talk...Imma go with something different for a change" (concentrates hard...face changes)

If only it were that easy for all of us. Having someone else do it (plastic surgery) doesn't always end well...(Madonna)


There should be a scene in future media where a Transformer does a head swap without the need of a Headmaster partner.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:00 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Nemesis_1982 wrote:Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.

Actually...it's being going on since G1 ;) both Alpha Trion and Scourge are rocking beards and moustaches. We've had almost 40 years of designs so I'm not surprised to see them exploring more in this space.


Well, these bots are able to alter themselves as they see fit. Why not let them change their appearance at will?

"I'm tired of the lighty things on the side of my face when I talk...Imma go with something different for a change" (concentrates hard...face changes)

If only it were that easy for all of us. Having someone else do it (plastic surgery) doesn't always end well...(Madonna)


There should be a scene in future media where a Transformer does a head swap without the need of a Headmaster partner.
Look no further than 1998:

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
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First-Aid wrote:
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Nemesis_1982 wrote:Is it just me, or am I the only one who has an allergy towards ALL the human faces they have nowadays?
Wheeljack wearing glasses, some old robots having moustaches or beards etc??

Come on... since when do machines need these crazy human stuff on their face?

It's been going on since like Transformers Prime I believe... all these cute faces and such.
It takes away the essence of robots in my opinion, totally ruined it for me ever since.

Actually...it's being going on since G1 ;) both Alpha Trion and Scourge are rocking beards and moustaches. We've had almost 40 years of designs so I'm not surprised to see them exploring more in this space.


Well, these bots are able to alter themselves as they see fit. Why not let them change their appearance at will?

"I'm tired of the lighty things on the side of my face when I talk...Imma go with something different for a change" (concentrates hard...face changes)

If only it were that easy for all of us. Having someone else do it (plastic surgery) doesn't always end well...(Madonna)


There should be a scene in future media where a Transformer does a head swap without the need of a Headmaster partner.
Look no further than 1998:

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Yup! That's just prime!

My reasoning is that if they can reformat themselves at will (see TF4 with Prime rescanning and changing on the road), why not facial features?
It finally happened. The Chicago Cubs won the World Series. Yes, I cried.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:44 pm

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I believe this confirms that during the delay, Paramount/SkyDance did use thte time to upgrade the CGI.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:34 pm

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The statues are going on a world tour
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It has already started, but there is still some time to see them.
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