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[LOST Cybertronian]

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Arctorro for alerting us to additional Amazon Listings of Transformers Combiner Wars Firefly and Alpha Bravo. We get to see the figures in-package as well as robot and alt modes. These guys can become an arm or leg of Superion.

Firefly







Alpha Bravo

[Convoy]

I accidentally clicked a pic so I clicked the other on purpose.
Both are currently unavailable.

[Sabrblade]

Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?

As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.

Ooh, now I'm tempted to go looking at how many toys each G1 combiner member has had.


Aaaaaand the temptation wins out (but I'll limit it to just the 1985-1988 combiners):

Constructicons
Bonecrusher - 8 toys
Scavenger - 8 toys
Scrapper - 8 toys
Hook - 7 toys
Long Haul - 8 toys
Mixmaster - 7 toys

Aerialbots
Air Raid - 7 toys
Skydive - 5 toys
Fireflight/Firefly - 5 toys
Slingshot - 3 toys
Silverbolt - 7 toys
Alpha Bravo - 1 toy
Powerglide - 6 toys

Protectobots (each one had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Streetwise - 3 toys
Groove - 2 toys
Blades - 4 toys
First Aid - 2 toys
Hot Spot - 5 toys

Stunticons (each one minus Breakdown had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Dead End - 4 toys
Breakdown - 5 toys (6 if you want to count the unofficial BotCon 2004 Action Master)
Wildrider - 2 toys
Drag Strip - 3 toys
Motormaster - 3 toys (4 if you want to count the unreleased Universe redeco of Thunder Clash)

Combaticons
Brawl - 7 toys
Swindle - 7 toys
Vortex - 7 toys
Blast Off - 6 toys
Onslaught - 10 toys

Predacons
Razorclaw - 5 toys
Rampage - 3 toys
Headstrong - 3 toys
Tantrum/Torox - 3 toys
Divebomb - 3 toys

Technobots
Afterburner - 2 toys
Nosecone - 1 toy
Strafe - 4 toys
Lightspeed - 1 toy
Scattershot - 2 toys

Terrorcons
Rippersnapper - 1 toy
Sinnertwin - 2 toys (one was repurposed from Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Twinstrike)
Cutthroat - 1 toy
Blot - 1 toy
Hun-Gurrr - 2 toys

Seacons (each one minus Nautilator and Tentakil had a BWII Seacon toy repurposed into these Seacons)
Overbite - 4 toys
Seawing - 4 toys
Nautilator - 3 toys
Skalor - 4 toys
Tentakil - 3 toys
Snaptrap - 4 toys


Onslaught wins.

[chuckdawg1999]

Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?

As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.

Ooh, now I'm tempted to go looking at how many toys each G1 combiner member has had.


Aaaaaand the temptation wins out (but I'll limit it to just the 1985-1988 combiners):

Constructicons
Bonecrusher - 8 toys
Scavenger - 8 toys
Scrapper - 8 toys
Hook - 7 toys
Long Haul - 8 toys
Mixmaster - 7 toys

Aerialbots
Air Raid - 7 toys
Skydive - 5 toys
Fireflight/Firefly - 5 toys
Slingshot - 3 toys
Silverbolt - 7 toys
Alpha Bravo - 1 toy
Powerglide - 6 toys

Protectobots (each one had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Streetwise - 3 toys
Groove - 2 toys
Blades - 4 toys
First Aid - 2 toys
Hot Spot - 5 toys

Stunticons (each one minus Breakdown had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Dead End - 4 toys
Breakdown - 5 toys (6 if you want to count the unofficial BotCon 2004 Action Master)
Wildrider - 2 toys
Drag Strip - 3 toys
Motormaster - 3 toys (4 if you want to count the unreleased Universe redeco of Thunder Clash)

Combaticons
Brawl - 7 toys
Swindle - 7 toys
Vortex - 7 toys
Blast Off - 6 toys
Onslaught - 10 toys

Predacons
Razorclaw - 5 toys
Rampage - 3 toys
Headstrong - 3 toys
Tantrum/Torox - 3 toys
Divebomb - 3 toys

Technobots
Afterburner - 2 toys
Nosecone - 1 toy
Strafe - 4 toys
Lightspeed - 1 toy
Scattershot - 2 toys

Terrorcons
Rippersnapper - 1 toy
Sinnertwin - 2 toys (one was repurposed from Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Twinstrike)
Cutthroat - 1 toy
Blot - 1 toy
Hun-Gurrr - 2 toys

Seacons (each one minus Nautilator and Tentakil had a BWII Seacon toy repurposed into these Seacons)
Overbite - 4 toys
Seawing - 4 toys
Nautilator - 3 toys
Skalor - 4 toys
Tentakil - 3 toys
Snaptrap - 4 toys


Onslaught wins.

Are you counting molds that just used the name but aren't meant to be the original character?

[Sabrblade]

Are you counting molds that just used the name but aren't meant to be the original character?

I counted only the toys that were meant to be the Primax versions of the characters, official repurposes, and redecoes/remolds of certain molds.

[Wolfman Jake]

Onslaught wins.

The dream is dead.

[Cobotron]

I really like how Alpha Bravo's rockets are his fore arms in bot mode.

[Emerje]

Alpha Bravo pictured with Fire(flight)'s fist/foot. Oops.

Emerje

[ZeroWolf]

Again that's why I really hope Bruticus isn't in this series. I mean they could do an botcon exclusive of him if they really must.

Guessing it will be near the toy fair before we see what's in the future waves.

[g60force]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...

study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity

[g60force]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...

study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity

[BERSEKAEL]

nice catch! plus can be either left or right

[Deathsanras]

One of my favourite things about this line is the return of the peg-chests.
They possibly could have engineered them to integrate or hide the combiner pegs into the two modes - have the chest open up, fold out the peg and then close the chest up, for example. But the retro-yet-modern interpretation of the peg-chests - that everyone is going to have, due to their interchangeability - cranks up the awesome for me.

[Arctorro]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...

study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity

I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.

[william-james88]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?

I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.

It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.

[Lockdownhunter]

HASBRO

Y U STEAL MY MONEY?

[MemphisR56]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?

I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.

It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.

I know some people are complaining that they look a little goofy in bot mode, and the transformations are simplistic, but considering these facts, each limb bot has a total of 4 modes. on a deluxe class sized figure and price point. Arm, Leg, Bot & Alt.

It took them 2 years of QC to get Voyager Triple Changers (close to) perfect.

It's surprising they look half as good as they do.

I just wish the Knuckle guns where removable/hidden in hand mode.

[william-james88]

Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?

I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.

It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.

I know some people are complaining that they look a little goofy in bot mode, and the transformations are simplistic, but considering these facts, each limb bot has a total of 4 modes. on a deluxe class sized figure and price point. Arm, Leg, Bot & Alt.

It took them 2 years of QC to get Voyager Triple Changers (close to) perfect.

It's surprising they look half as good as they do.

I just wish the Knuckle guns where removable/hidden in hand mode.

Totally agree with you on the talk of value. We can just look at the 3rd parties to see how much we are saving (and saved on Springer!). However, I dont mind the knuckle guns there, they remind me a lot of G1 predaking.



Oh wait, even though he was never a scramble city, could those gestalt hands be an indication that Predaking is the other Decepticon combiner in that line? There is still hope!

[ZeroWolf]

I love the thought of a new scramble city style predaking (imagine if he was the titan rumour) but I'm not hopeful, what I am hopeful for is for new combiners to take the stage.

Oh and Monstructor to finally get the respect he deserves.

[Hero Alpha]

However, I dont mind the knuckle guns there, they remind me a lot of G1 predaking.



Oh wait, even though he was never a scramble city, could those gestalt hands be an indication that Predaking is the other Decepticon combiner in that line? There is still hope!

I still think G1 Predaking still looks awesome, even beside new generations stuff. Not as much need for a remake with him as the other old G1 combiners don't look as well now. I would love a Monstuctor though, so much.

[Va'al]

TFND.net and Seibertron.com user and toy blogger blacklai has uploaded another set of photos from the soon to be mass released Generations Combiner Wars figures - feast your eyes below, and head here for more, on leader of the Aerialbots, torso of the combiner Superion, Voyager class Silverbolt!

[william-james88]

15 steps, not bad. Its too bad he looks like a robot hiding under a jet in alt mode. Then again, a more expensive recent Leader sized jet (cough cough Jetfire cough)who doesn't have to become a cobiner torso looked the same so I couldnt expect too much.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

15 steps, not bad. Its too bad he looks like a robot hiding under a jet in alt mode. Then again, a more expensive recent Leader sized jet (cough cough Jetfire cough)who doesn't have to become a cobiner torso looked the same so I couldnt expect too much.

When will Hasbro admit they're doing that just for nostalgia's sake?

[william-james88]

15 steps, not bad. Its too bad he looks like a robot hiding under a jet in alt mode. Then again, a more expensive recent Leader sized jet (cough cough Jetfire cough)who doesn't have to become a cobiner torso looked the same so I couldnt expect too much.

When will Hasbro admit they're doing that just for nostalgia's sake?

I was thinking the same thing. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[GuyIncognito]

This one too: