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News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:36 am

Hmmm already having the Hasbro version, I probably won't buy into an entire combiner, but if one or two figures have a clearly superior deco I might bite

News Credits: 6 · by **MemphisR56** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:39 am

None of the silhouettes look like Dragstrip, so it looks like they'll be getting full teams in a wave.

Then again, none of the silhouettes look like Alpha Bravo either.

Left leg is Skydive, Right leg is Air Raid, Left arm looks like Firefly (can clearly identify his gun pegged into the back of the wing, and the Right arm, is a bit mishmashy, but it looks like the forearm is also firefly, you can see the tailfin folded up just above the wrist. You can also just see the barrel of *another* Firefly rifle next to Superion's head, as though it's symmetrically plugged into the back of the wing on that side too. If that's a firefly repaint as slingshot, they're in the correct positions to line up with a G1 Box-Art and G1 series accurate Superion.

Pinch of salt, though, as it could just be a placeholder configuration for the teaser with 2 fireflies.

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:13 am

Remember when I crapped on these toys? Yeah, I take it back. They're fun. I enjoy them. Great line for collectors. I haven't seen the local crew around here this stoked and out on the hunt for official product in a very, very long time.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:35 am

ScottyP wrote:Remember when I crapped on these toys? Yeah, I take it back. They're fun. I enjoy them. Great line for collectors. I haven't seen the local crew around here this stoked and out on the hunt for official product in a very, very long time.

Yeah, and my deluxes still smell funny. After cleanng them off though, I've found that they sure are a lot of fun.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:00 am

Fan edit of the silhouette to remove the "Gattai Senshi" Kanji (source):

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:15 am

Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:17 am

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

by **Peridot** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:36 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Fan edit of the silhouette to remove the "Gattai Senshi" Kanji (source):

Why does he have two of the same limbs for arms?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:41 pm

Metro Prime wrote:Why does he have two of the same limbs for arms?

Because there only exist three jet limb molds? Alpha Bravo's not in this.

If Takara makes a Slingshot, it'll more than likely be made from one of the other three jet limbs, unless Hasbro has secret plans for a new Slingshot mold further down the line.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:12 pm

Mkall wrote:Got 4/5ths of Superion a couple days ago. I gotta say it's the most fun I've had with a combiner in years.

I don't have any of them in hand yet. They are, however, the most excited I have been for retail product in years. That coming from someone who really doesn't care about Superion all that much. I think it's far past time these guys got their due though. The deluxes all look great on their own from the photos. I'm very curious to see what Takara do for their releases. I wonder who is gonna let the first images of devastator slip.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpt** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:45 pm

Thanks for the tip
on Dragstrip!

Just got Powerglide and leg joints will definitely be a problem at elbows. Maybe some plasti dip would tighten them up? :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpt** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:53 pm

Of course there is a hole in the umm...elbows. Maybe a 3rd party will make something that fits and makes it a ratchet joint.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?
Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

News Credits: 113 · by **megatronus** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:38 pm

Yup. These guys are fun. Like, super fun. Amazingly super fun.

I just need Silverbolt...

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:53 pm

megatronus wrote:I just need Silverbolt...

Hey! thats the name of my new club. Wanna be in it?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:57 pm

Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?
Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:09 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?
Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

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Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Optimizzy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?
Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.
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Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?

We can only assume those were the original plans. Like many pretools (pre-planned retools), the alternate head was visible in the original's instructions, in this case Scourge's, but ultimately not used. Nowadays a good majority of molds have alternate parts, making the overall process more efficient.

I'd give a total list, but it's really long. :lol:

by **Gearslide** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:42 pm

I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:18 pm

Gearslide wrote:I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

Or use Alpha Bravo's head...

by **Gearslide** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Gearslide wrote:I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

Or use Alpha Bravo's head...

...Alpha Bravo has both a visor and a mouth plate. And G1 Slingshot has never had either of those things as far as I know. Although he did have "Aviators" of a sort in the G1 cartoon.

Air Raid's head has a similar face, head shape, and even the "rounded top" that Slingshot's has.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:50 pm

I can totally see Hasbro and Takara making wild rider and slingshot eventually. They seem to be pushing the "scramble city" angle and more variety will help with that.

News Credits: 90 · by **Tyrannacon** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:38 pm

To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:02 pm

Tyrannacon wrote:To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.

preorder from BBTS or TFsource. you can cancel at any time with BBTS, and any time before release with TFsource

News Credits: 90 · by **Tyrannacon** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:57 pm

shajaki wrote:
Tyrannacon wrote:To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.
preorder from BBTS or TFsource. you can cancel at any time with BBTS, and any time before release with TFsource

I may just do that. I've been looking forward to this incarnation of Megatron for months, I want to make sure I get him to put him in my shrine.