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[Wolfman Jake]

I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing.

Who said that and when? Where?

I'll see if I can find the exact quote, but I remember it very clearly from the announcement panel from last year. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just saying that they have all they need now to make to make Superion, Menasor, Defensor, and Bruticus, and that the last two will probably be altered like the first two have.

You're confused. It was announced that there would be 16 mainline/mass-market DELUXE scale releases for 2015, not just "16 different molds" across all price points/size classes. We even know who the 16 deluxes are now: Air Raid, Fireflight, Sky Dive, Alpha Bravo, Dragstrip, Dead End, Breakdown, Off Road, First Aid, Streetwise, Blades, Rook, Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

[Megatron Wolf]

why do i have the feeling hotspot is going to be retooled into hook &/or onslaught & groove into cybertron ransack

[lonrac]

......and the winner is...............

[BERSEKAEL]

PROTECTOBOTS!!!

[ZeroWolf]

Hot spot and groove look awesome (makes me wonder what takara are going to do about that) love bike formers so groove is a buy on sight.

If the Autobot cars aren't exclusives then that pretty much means no combaticons this year they'll probably debut when the fan combiner launches.

[Syn_13]

I like the look of Hot Spot and Groove's moulds and I'm glad that Hot Spot has his own mould. Looks like that's the 3 base moulds Hasbro are going for, and we'll just be seeing various repaints in future. Bruticus is still possible I reckon.

I would actually prefer to vote after I've seen what Defensor's torso looks like. Not totally sold on Menasor's/Ultra Prime's because of the width. Also make's me wonder whether Groove will be a chest piece like Blackjack, or a weapon like Powerglide.

[MightyMagnus78]

Loving these combiners! Those Protectobots look awesome, I predict a lot of overtime in the next twelve months.

Also, is that Hot Rod with Prime in the middle picture?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Loving these combiners! Those Protectobots look awesome, I predict a lot of overtime in the next twelve months.

Also, is that Hot Rod with Prime in the middle picture?

Actually, that's Blackjack.

[MightyMagnus78]

Loving these combiners! Those Protectobots look awesome, I predict a lot of overtime in the next twelve months.

Also, is that Hot Rod with Prime in the middle picture?

Actually, that's Blackjack.

Cool, I wonder if he'll get a Roddy repaint?

Actually as Blackjack forms Menasor's chest, it would seem that white Ultra Prime picture more likely to happen?

[william-james88]

Loving these combiners! Those Protectobots look awesome, I predict a lot of overtime in the next twelve months.

Also, is that Hot Rod with Prime in the middle picture?

Actually, that's Blackjack.

Cool, I wonder if he'll get a Roddy repaint?

Actually as Blackjack forms Menasor's chest, it would seem that white Ultra Prime picture more likely to happen?

Sure it can happen, you just have to vote for it in the app.

Also, it was written that 29.99$ is too expensive for a voyager and too little for a leader, well those listingd may probably have come from a Canadadian Toysrus, where the price for a voyager is constantly 29.99$

[Cobotron]

Also, it was written that 29.99$ is too expensive for a voyager and too little for a leader, well those listingd may probably have come from a Canadadian Toysrus, where the price for a voyager is constantly 29.99$

Right. That would make sense. South of the border, TRU has them at 26.99.

[william-james88]

Also, it was written that 29.99$ is too expensive for a voyager and too little for a leader, well those listingd may probably have come from a Canadadian Toysrus, where the price for a voyager is constantly 29.99$

Right. That would make sense. South of the border, TRU has them at 26.99.

A year ago I would have said "you lucky bunch of @%&!%@" but with our current pisspoor exchange rate, that would make it 31$, so I think we are fine.

[Sabrblade]

I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing.

Who said that and when? Where?

I'll see if I can find the exact quote, but I remember it very clearly from the announcement panel from last year. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just saying that they have all they need now to make to make Superion, Menasor, Defensor, and Bruticus, and that the last two will probably be altered like the first two have.

You're confused. It was announced that there would be 16 mainline/mass-market DELUXE scale releases for 2015, not just "16 different molds" across all price points/size classes. We even know who the 16 deluxes are now: Air Raid, Fireflight, Sky Dive, Alpha Bravo, Dragstrip, Dead End, Breakdown, Off Road, First Aid, Streetwise, Blades, Rook, Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

For reference:

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I included powerglide and blackjack in those numbers, as i put both teams at six instead of 5- I think they're going to consider the constructicons something outside the norm, like a store exclusive which they won't count. I didn't make up the 16 molds, that's what they said they were doing.

Who said that and when? Where?

I'll see if I can find the exact quote, but I remember it very clearly from the announcement panel from last year. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just saying that they have all they need now to make to make Superion, Menasor, Defensor, and Bruticus, and that the last two will probably be altered like the first two have.

You're confused. It was announced that there would be 16 mainline/mass-market DELUXE scale releases for 2015, not just "16 different molds" across all price points/size classes. We even know who the 16 deluxes are now: Air Raid, Fireflight, Sky Dive, Alpha Bravo, Dragstrip, Dead End, Breakdown, Off Road, First Aid, Streetwise, Blades, Rook, Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

For reference:

So the grand total for main retail is:

11 Legends (7 confirmed)
16 Deluxes (12 confirmed, 4 tentative)
6 Voyagers (4 confirmed)

This basically means we have, assuming we get 4 teams:

7 "Spare" Legends
2 "Spare" Voyagers (I consider Optimus Prime a "spare" since he's not a part of any team, pending the 4 tentative Deluxes)

[william-james88]

You're confused. It was announced that there would be 16 mainline/mass-market DELUXE scale releases for 2015, not just "16 different molds" across all price points/size classes. We even know who the 16 deluxes are now: Air Raid, Fireflight, Sky Dive, Alpha Bravo, Dragstrip, Dead End, Breakdown, Off Road, First Aid, Streetwise, Blades, Rook, Ironhide, Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

For reference:

Woah, I never saw the voyager news. We are getting 5 more?! So that would be Silverbolt, Motormaster, Hotspot and 2 more we dont know?! But we know all the deluxes. Wow, the last 2 could be some totally different voyagers that dont connect to anything, ala leader Megatron. And it turns out we do get an extra Leader, Thundercracker, dont know if we will get more.

[Sabrblade]

And it turns out we do get an extra Leader, Thundercracker, dont know if we will get more.

Ultra Magnus?

[william-james88]

And it turns out we do get an extra Leader, Thundercracker, dont know if we will get more.

Ultra Magnus?

Oh right, nice!

[MightyMagnus78]

Are Slingshot and Wildrider included in the 16 deluxes?

[Syn_13]

So it appears that Legends Hot Rod and Skywarp (redecos of Thundercracker and Blackjack) are official. Skywarp looks cool and is great for those needing Skywarp to complete the Legends Seekers trio (or foursome if you want to count Acid Storm).

Hot Rod isn't my cup of tea, would rather see a Voyager figure of him than a Legends one, but it's obvious that he's there to form part of the white Ultra Prime that we've seen in artwork.

[william-james88]

Sometimes it pays to know spanish because hot off the news of the two new Combiner Wars molds, we have official pictures for 2 new additions to the Combiner Wars line from the official website of Hasbro Spain.

These two new toys revealed are Legends Class Rodimus and Skywarp. They are both based off of the pre-existing molds of Legends Blackjack and Generations Starscream respectively. Here are the mirrored pictures for your viewing pleasure.













This now adds fuel to the theory that the promo picture featuring a White Ultra Prime with a Hot Rod legends car on it's chest may be of an upcoming combiner afterall.

[william-james88]

Are Slingshot and Wildrider included in the 16 deluxes?

nope, thats what makes them very interesting and people debating if they are exclusives

[Cobotron]

Great work amigo!

HOORAY! Skywarp.

[Mindmaster]

So I guess I'm now obligated to get Thundercracker now. Dammit...

It's a tentative pass on Rodimus. It works for vehicle mode, but not for robot mode, even with a new head. Then again, I was going to skip the entirety of the Legends scale until Shrapnel popped up (I've been hooked ever since)...

[william-james88]

Great work amigo!

HOORAY! Skywarp.

Thanks buddy!

[Seibertron]

I'm with you guys ... Skywarp is awesome and was expected since Hasbro's Mark Weber more or less tipped it off at last BotCon's Hasbro panel.

Rodimus, however, is blah. If he had the chest flames in robot mode, I'd say thumbs up. But without the chest flames and without the yellow "wings" (?) behind his head, it just isn't Rodimus. Vehicle mode, on the other hand, looks great, but not so much for the robot mode.