It's because of the hood.Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Rtron wrote:
It's funny because Budiansky was apparently bamboozled too, he claims he gave the guy that name and personality as wordplay because the toy they gave him was blue. Probably a Diaclone one. That and the boxart confirm they changed the deco at the last minute,
Why would they make such a pointless & unnecessary change like that? I was looking all over for the blue version.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:TulioDude wrote:I hope one of them is Bumblebee Soundwave.
I believe the $26 one will be because that's what Target in the US charges for SS figures
For what class?
Sabrblade wrote:It's because of the hood.Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Rtron wrote:
It's funny because Budiansky was apparently bamboozled too, he claims he gave the guy that name and personality as wordplay because the toy they gave him was blue. Probably a Diaclone one. That and the boxart confirm they changed the deco at the last minute,
Why would they make such a pointless & unnecessary change like that? I was looking all over for the blue version.
Both of the Diaclone pre-Bluestreaks had hoods that were different colors from the rest of the car's body (blue w/ a silver hood and silver w/ a black hood), which made them both look like those old broken cars that use replacement parts from other cars that don't match the rest of the car.
Apparently, Hasbro didn't want their Bluestreak to look like an old broken car with a replaced hood, so they took the silver hood from the blue car and put it on the silver car to create a new uniform design with a matching car and hood, nixing the silver car's original black hood in the process. Evidently, this decision came too late in the game for the packaging to be changed, but not too late for the comics and cartoon to both switch to the silver character design before release.
That said, however, it seems the cartoon somehow got a look at the original Diaclone silver car w/ black hood deco instead of the new all-silver deco, since the cartoon model for Bluestreak used the black hood instead of the new silver one, like how the cartoon also used Diaclone blue Swoop instead of Swoop's new red coloring meant to make him better resemble the other Dinobots who also used red as a secondary color. The comics, on the other hand, did use the all-silver Bluestreak and red Swoop as per their toys.
Yeah, you can see from his early model colors that there was a transition between the Diaclone blue deco and the new all-silver deco that changed the silver hood to blue to make it uniform, but then switched to all-silver before finalizing the design with the Diaclone silver w/ black hood deco:Rtron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's because of the hood.Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Rtron wrote:
It's funny because Budiansky was apparently bamboozled too, he claims he gave the guy that name and personality as wordplay because the toy they gave him was blue. Probably a Diaclone one. That and the boxart confirm they changed the deco at the last minute,
Why would they make such a pointless & unnecessary change like that? I was looking all over for the blue version.
Both of the Diaclone pre-Bluestreaks had hoods that were different colors from the rest of the car's body (blue w/ a silver hood and silver w/ a black hood), which made them both look like those old broken cars that use replacement parts from other cars that don't match the rest of the car.
Apparently, Hasbro didn't want their Bluestreak to look like an old broken car with a replaced hood, so they took the silver hood from the blue car and put it on the silver car to create a new uniform design with a matching car and hood, nixing the silver car's original black hood in the process. Evidently, this decision came too late in the game for the packaging to be changed, but not too late for the comics and cartoon to both switch to the silver character design before release.
That said, however, it seems the cartoon somehow got a look at the original Diaclone silver car w/ black hood deco instead of the new all-silver deco, since the cartoon model for Bluestreak used the black hood instead of the new silver one, like how the cartoon also used Diaclone blue Swoop instead of Swoop's new red coloring meant to make him better resemble the other Dinobots who also used red as a secondary color. The comics, on the other hand, did use the all-silver Bluestreak and red Swoop as per their toys.
The differences in comic and cartoon color accuracy are probably a result of respective production lead times. Cartoons take way longer to produce, and that includes coloring. Plus, the amount of people involved means that once something is on a character sheet, it's set in stone for the episodes that are already going into production. Comics take a shorter time to produce and are colored by only one person, who wasn't particularly detail oriented or meticulous in The Transformers' case, so you can put any coloring change in effect as soon as you notice it's happened. It's a bit weird though, given how Yomtov crearly didn't give a damn when coloring stuff.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm just waiting for Hasbro to troll everyone by re-releasing SS86 core Rumble as a mainline core Frenzy a year later.
If Hastak gives us a solid SS86 Soundwave first, people won’t care as much.
How would SS86 Soundwave differ from the Netflix Soundwave released last year?
Nemesis Primal wrote:...
-$49.99 Optimus is NOT another rerelease of the ER one or the rumored Prime one (which I assume will be Voyager class due to the Bulkhead rumor retool), but in fact a "retool" (read: only seems to reuse the legs) of said ER Optimus with a new trailer to turn it into Laser Prime, apparently he still has a Matrix as well
Overcracker wrote:Color me intrigued.... G2 Laser Prime?
o.supreme wrote:Overcracker wrote:Color me intrigued.... G2 Laser Prime?
Were you not around for Titans Return?
Sentinel_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:TulioDude wrote:I hope one of them is Bumblebee Soundwave.
I believe the $26 one will be because that's what Target in the US charges for SS figures
For what class?
Voyager class. Sorry, thought I included that, but I was also just waking up so I guess I forgot that important part
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:-Core Energon Monster (the presence of Armada Screamer strengthens my theory that this is some kind of Energon Terrorcon if it isn't something completely new like the Fossilizers)
My current theory is that "Energon Monsters" are Core class Weaponisers / Battlemasters / Armour. We know there's a Pretender homage in Legacy so this will probably that. I'm betting they'll be transparent "energon" figures of the Pretender shells that can be taken apart and put on Deluxe figures. There's also rumours of "Energon Hunters" which I'm guessing are the Autobot pretender shells.
If the Decepticon shells are relegated to Core class exclusivity while the Autobots get Deluxe+ I will be incredibly pissed. Autobot Pretenders are incredibly worse than Decepticon Pretenders.
Kennyk69 wrote:How about Monstructor!
Overcracker wrote:o.supreme wrote:Overcracker wrote:Color me intrigued.... G2 Laser Prime?
Were you not around for Titans Return?
I was.
I own the Velocitron set and its G2 Laser Prime.
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Overcracker wrote:o.supreme wrote:Overcracker wrote:Color me intrigued.... G2 Laser Prime?
Were you not around for Titans Return?
I was.
I own the Velocitron set and its G2 Laser Prime.
That Octane mold just never did it for me, especially not the Optimus versions (though granted, I was still waiting for a good Optimus since the Classics mold... which Siege fixed). I've wanted a new Laser Prime for one reason (two really) the redecos. Scourge is all but guaranteed with his Live-action debut in RotB and Toxitron is perfect Selects fodder.
william-james88 wrote:I think it's a two pack and the listing just has 1 name.
The remaining leaker on TFW spoke of Rumble in particular as a single figure and not as part of a two-pack.william-james88 wrote:I think it's a two pack and the listing just has 1 name.
Overcracker wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:...
-$49.99 Optimus is NOT another rerelease of the ER one or the rumored Prime one (which I assume will be Voyager class due to the Bulkhead rumor retool), but in fact a "retool" (read: only seems to reuse the legs) of said ER Optimus with a new trailer to turn it into Laser Prime, apparently he still has a Matrix as well
Color me intrigued.... G2 Laser Prime?
May as well start saving up for him and the inevitable Scourge repaint. Wallet gonna hurt.
Autobot N wrote:The remaining leaker on TFW spoke of Rumble in particular as a single figure and not as part of a two-pack.william-james88 wrote:I think it's a two pack and the listing just has 1 name.
Rtron wrote:william-james88 wrote:I think it's a two pack and the listing just has 1 name.
Yeah, this is most likely it.
william-james88 wrote:Voltrace, the same person who found many listings in the Target database, took the time to check for some more. They searched for characters this time around and found a new Optimus Prime and a Galvatron, the later of which is most probably a repack of Kingdom. They did find not one but 2 Soundwaves. We are not certain of the exact line for each.
• Soundwave ($29.99)
• Soundwave ($26.99)
• Starscream ($29.99)
• Galvatron ($49.99)
• Optimus Prime ($49.99)
• Optimus Prime (9.99)
• Arcee ($22.99)
Sowndwave76 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm just waiting for Hasbro to troll everyone by re-releasing SS86 core Rumble as a mainline core Frenzy a year later.
If Hastak gives us a solid SS86 Soundwave first, people won’t care as much.
How would SS86 Soundwave differ from the Netflix Soundwave released last year?
Not by much.
But no Siege greebling, and added forearm panels. Gray colored areas may be switched to a lighter gray or even white.
william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:TulioDude wrote:I hope one of them is Bumblebee Soundwave.
I believe the $26 one will be because that's what Target in the US charges for SS figures
For what class?
Voyager class. Sorry, thought I included that, but I was also just waking up so I guess I forgot that important part
We'll see if that lasts. With the voyager class getting a price bump in 2022 (we already see it for SS86 Sweep), that $26 for a voyager at Target is nearing their wholesale purchase price.
Nemesis Primal wrote:-$49.99 Optimus is NOT another rerelease of the ER one or the rumored Prime one (which I assume will be Voyager class due to the Bulkhead rumor retool), but in fact a "retool" (read: only seems to reuse the legs) of said ER Optimus with a new trailer to turn it into Laser Prime, apparently he still has a Matrix as well
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