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Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, somewhat related, Amazon announced another Prime Day for October 11th. I wonder if I could score a Motormaster at a discount then...?
Randomhero wrote:Yeah and PvP and chefatron dont show the boxes because “they’re damaged”
How about we don’t take the word of people who get their stuff through questionable means before they’re even announced, yes?
He comes with two to emulate the old double canon in car mode.
Nemesis Primal wrote:If that's how you want to interpret what Hasbro said, then sure. I'm more willing to go with that logic than "the wiki said it so it must be true", since anyone could make an account and change the wiki.
william-james88 wrote:A question was asked if Hasbro intentionally made the retooled figure be the final release and while I see how one could think that, it doesn't jive with the causality of how these toys are made.
Menasor was designed as a complete figure, so each component was designed at a similar time. Breakdown and Wildrider sharing the same parts was decided before anything went into production. So neither one is a retool of the other, they are simply 2 figures which share parts. That distinction could be crucial because through this lens we can see how the alt mode was not designed to be specifically a ferrari or a lambo but simply a sports car that could accomodate either make in a generalized fashion.
Does Wildrider look more like a ferari than Breakdown looks like a lambo? That's my question.
Because if they are both generic enough, then technically Wildrider is the first retool they showed us.
o.supreme wrote:Tracytron54321 wrote:He only gets one gun instead of two which doesn't really bug me that much but it's still weird and honestly kinda distracting that he's the only one not duel wielding.
He does come with 2 Guns. It's just that because of the detachable spoiler, he now has 3 "accessories" (yay this is what we always wanted right, more accessories ;) ) but no practical way to utilize them all at once, at least as far as we know for the moment.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, I'm so glad I don't give a **** about things like this. Breakdown looks nice, I'm excited to get a complete Menasor
Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yeah and PvP and chefatron dont show the boxes because “they’re damaged”
How about we don’t take the word of people who get their stuff through questionable means before they’re even announced, yes?
He comes with two to emulate the old double canon in car mode.
I see you're assuming, too.![]()
Emerje
Burn wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, I'm so glad I don't give a **** about things like this. Breakdown looks nice, I'm excited to get a complete Menasor
This.
(Watch the pile on from certain detractors because we didn't agree with them and theirs is the only opinion that matters)
I mean at the end of the day, those of us who complete the Stunticons are going to display them combined as Menasor, and you won't be able to see Breakdown anyway so it's kind of a moot point.
Heck, people could display smaller figures in front of Menasor so the legs can't be seen and you could get away without either of the leg bots thus saving some money and being triggered because a little white toy car not looking how they think it should.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Randomhero wrote:Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yeah and PvP and chefatron dont show the boxes because “they’re damaged”
How about we don’t take the word of people who get their stuff through questionable means before they’re even announced, yes?
He comes with two to emulate the old double canon in car mode.
I see you're assuming, too.![]()
Emerje
Yeah there’s no assuming we know he’s coming with 2 guns but sure let’s take the word of someone who 1. Doesn’t prove packaging. 2. Doesn’t say where they actually acquired it. 3. Conveniently picked up a second only to get a gun with again zero proof of packaging, purchase or showing both in a photo one in bot mode and one in alt mode. But hey, we’ll know in 16 hours.
Also as others pointed out his characters description rumor says 3 accessories. So there’s that.
Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve proved ya wrong would it?
Hellscream9999 wrote:Transformers change, I try not to get hung up on appearance, I feel the same way about velocitron scourge
Burn wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Transformers change, I try not to get hung up on appearance, I feel the same way about velocitron scourge
The new look for Menasor is a wonderful change, vastly superior in virtually every way to Combiner Wars Menasor, but people are getting hung up over Breakdown?
eh ... like you said, they look good regardless.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Those horns were just begging to be used for the never-made Unicronus retool.Hellscream9999 wrote:Burn wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Transformers change, I try not to get hung up on appearance, I feel the same way about velocitron scourge
The new look for Menasor is a wonderful change, vastly superior in virtually every way to Combiner Wars Menasor, but people are getting hung up over Breakdown?
eh ... like you said, they look good regardless.
I loved cw menasors devil horns instead of legacy menasors bug antenna, but there wasn't much else to like about that mold
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Emerje wrote:I don't care what the YouTube thieves say...
The only ones that know anything for sure are the people on the inside. I'm surprised that you of all people are stating a rumor as a fact.
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:Fans who ordered Transformers Legacy Breakdown on Shopee have received him since, hence our earlier photos. And now we have a video review...
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm going to split hairs with you on this one.william-james88 wrote:A question was asked if Hasbro intentionally made the retooled figure be the final release and while I see how one could think that, it doesn't jive with the causality of how these toys are made.
Menasor was designed as a complete figure, so each component was designed at a similar time. Breakdown and Wildrider sharing the same parts was decided before anything went into production. So neither one is a retool of the other, they are simply 2 figures which share parts. That distinction could be crucial because through this lens we can see how the alt mode was not designed to be specifically a ferrari or a lambo but simply a sports car that could accomodate either make in a generalized fashion.
Does Wildrider look more like a ferari than Breakdown looks like a lambo? That's my question.
Because if they are both generic enough, then technically Wildrider is the first retool they showed us.
I agree that neither is 100% "correct" in terms of resembling his G1 self. However, if you look at the 2, IMO the immediate conclusion is that Wildrider looks more accurate than Breakdown, even with the latter's spoiler. Therefore I make the conclusion that when the mold was created, it favored Wildrider.
That would mean that even though they were on the design phase at the same time, it was Wildrider who got looked at first, and since they look very similar, Breakdown is the one who is more inaccurate.
Calling him a retool wouldn't be exactly correct, if he had gotten a proper Lamborghini front, then he could be considered a retool of Wildrider, since it was the Wildrider design (by virtue of it being closer to an accurate Wildrider) that was the starting point for Breakdown.
Randomhero wrote:Doesn’t say where they actually acquired it.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, I'm so glad I don't give a **** about things like this. Breakdown looks nice, I'm excited to get a complete Menasor
Burn wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, I'm so glad I don't give a **** about things like this. Breakdown looks nice, I'm excited to get a complete Menasor
This.
(Watch the pile on from certain detractors because we didn't agree with them and theirs is the only opinion that matters)
I mean at the end of the day, those of us who complete the Stunticons are going to display them combined as Menasor, and you won't be able to see Breakdown anyway so it's kind of a moot point.
Heck, people could display smaller figures in front of Menasor so the legs can't be seen and you could get away without either of the leg bots thus saving some money and being triggered because a little white toy car not looking how they think it should.
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