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First-Aid wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

That's the point, it's a trade off. If you could easily see and feel your tax dollars at work, you may have a different outlook.
However income tax is not 50% in Canada. It turns out that federal income tax in Canada is very similar to the US for the middle class, on average. The big difference is how that money is spent.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

That's the point, it's a trade off. If you could easily see and feel your tax dollars at work, you may have a different outlook.
However income tax is not 50% in Canada. It turns out that federal income tax in Canada is very similar to the US for the middle class, on average. The big difference is how that money is spent.

Oh I know that. Canadian income tax is 33 percent. If you add the 15% sales tax to the 33%, plus other assumed fees and taxes that's how you get 50%. It's not other taxes lkike property, school, gas, internet/phone, roads, etc. Those are separate but do end up taking in excess of 50% of income in the end.

Could be worse...could be Denmark. 25% sales tax and 55.9% income tax...that's 80% of income. Could you imagine making $20 an hour and walking with 3 bucks?

Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/pe ... e-tax-rate

Blitzwing arrived from Amazon today, pretty neat figure though it was a bit of a chore to transform to Bot mode being a triple changer. lol

And since it's not in a window box I guess they didn't feel the need to package it in bot mode, guess I've gotten spoiled in that regard not having to do it myself upon opening them. I wonder if Motormaster will be packaged the same way, or any Legacy figure that doesn't have an opening?

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I'm stuck on the fact that you guys are paying almost 15% sales tax! What the heck? I moved to Wisconsin the sales tax in Illinois on food went from 0% to 5.5% and they increased alcohol tax to 11%! And you guys aren't flinching at 15%?

You wouldn't flinch either if you could see those tax dollars at work as easily as I do. I've got 2 kids with another on the way and my wife currently has gestational diabetes so she needs weekly follow ups, insulin and the appropriate equipment. We won't be billed for the delivery, or the follow ups before then. We were only billed 40$ for all the insulin she needs for the next 4 months. Plus then she gets 1 year paid maternity leave, I get 5 weeks paid leave, and then we put our then 1 year old in daycare that only costs $7 a day due to subsidies while my wife goes back to work as a pharmaceutical tech which cost $0 to get a degree/certification in.
Basically you just have to pick your poison, I picked mine and am comfortable with it.

And back to the toys, if they cost me 0$ then the 15% tax on that is also 0, so it doesn't matter

That is a powerful argument for the good that tax can do.

Between 15% on everything you buy (not to mention the VATs) and income tax sucking up literally half your income, there BETTER be subsidies because you can't afford it otherwise...eep...

That's the point, it's a trade off. If you could easily see and feel your tax dollars at work, you may have a different outlook.
However income tax is not 50% in Canada. It turns out that federal income tax in Canada is very similar to the US for the middle class, on average. The big difference is how that money is spent.

Oh I know that. Canadian income tax is 33 percent. If you add the 15% sales tax to the 33%, plus other assumed fees and taxes that's how you get 50%. It's not other taxes lkike property, school, gas, internet/phone, roads, etc. Those are separate but do end up taking in excess of 50% of income in the end.

Could be worse...could be Denmark. 25% sales tax and 55.9% income tax...that's 80% of income. Could you imagine making $20 an hour and walking with 3 bucks?

Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/pe ... e-tax-rate

Thanks for the clarification First Aid, I had indeed misread your statement. Take care.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Blitzwing arrived from Amazon today, pretty neat figure though it was a bit of a chore to transform to Bot mode being a triple changer. lol

And since it's not in a window box I guess they didn't feel the need to package it in bot mode, guess I've gotten spoiled in that regard not having to do it myself upon opening them. I wonder if Motormaster will be packaged the same way, or any Legacy figure that doesn't have an opening?

I can confirm Motormaster is in truck mode. At first glance it seems like his accessory sword is missing but it's hiding in the trailer!

I do like toys that find a home for all their accessories (either hidden away or making the vehicle armed to the teeth like a mad max movie)

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I actually love that more figures are being packaged in alt mode. I love not being able to see the bot mode until after first transformation, makes me feel just like when I was a kid.

Me too, it really takes me back.

This is both good news and bad news. The good news part is obvious. You now have another place to find the wave 2 deluxes and they are slightly discounted (MSRP is $24.99). The bad news bit is that Big Lots USUALLY does not get their toys directly from Hasbro so these are toys that won't be appearing on either Target or Walmart shelves, hinting at distribution issues on the retailer's end where they dump stock instead of putting it up on shelves. However, there is a chance that these were ordered by them for the Christmas season rather than being dumped by other retailers.
Then again, we saw this same thing happen with wave 2 of Earthrise which was more abundant at discount retailers than big box retailers in terms of brick and mortar sightings.

So, be on the lookout at Big Lots if you'd rather find your figures at brick and mortar than online, and now you'll know why you may see little of these toys at the usual stores. Also, we have video reviews of these toys from our community members below in case you are now more likely to pick them up and want to know more.

This news was posted by Ferdie on this Transformers Liberated Facebook page.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yet again Optimus Prime's main squeeze doesn't get her own figure. In POTP she was a repaint and slight retool of Starscream. In the WFC Netflix line, she was a repaint with a new head of Arcee. Here in Legacy, she's a retool of the as-yet-unreleased Walgreens exclusive Minerva, when will this injustice end???? The mold is solid, and not a full shell former, I appreciate what the legs do, to form the sides of the buggy mode. Articulation is solid all around, leading to a very good figure. Someday though, I hope Elita-1 gets her due.

GotBot wrote:He's sleek! He's cool! He's Transformers Legacy Prime Universe Knockout. While based on the SS 86 Jazz mold, there is enough unique to him that he just might fill the bill for some collectors as a very acceptable version of the resident Decepticon medic.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:While not a Beast Wars fan, I know that a lot of fans were waiting for Tarantulas to be released so they can work on completing their season 1 collection. The figure is solid, transformation isn't hard, but working with the spider legs might make things a touch fiddly. All in all, I think Tarantulas is the update Beast Wars fans were waiting for.

Interesting, I was just at my local biglot last week, they only had a couple of MOTU bendy figs I've never seen before.

The only TF I saw there was last year, whatever SS86 assortment included Gnaw. But still, any chance to get something new I'll take a look.

I did finally see Elita-1 at a local Target today. They had 2. The rest of the case I assume was purchased.

Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Posted by SoundwaveSuperior24 on September 1st, 2022 @ 1:30am CDT
Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Say, SoundwaveSuperior24 (agree with most of that username BTW), do you have any insight as to whether the shift to current TF product was spurred ty Big Lots getting in trouble over the TF knock-offs they used to carry? That's why I LOVED Big Lots 15-20 years ago, starting with some of the same Beast Wars and Brave KOs previously found in Easter Baskets, then G1 and Machine Robo combiner teams, and finally enlarged Minicons and Legends figures which seem to have spurred a crackdown from Hasbro.

The final straw was apparently oversized KOs of the Operation Combination Six-______ torso and head with Cybertron Legends figures enlarged to near-Deluxe size as limbs. One used Vector Prime for arms, and the legs were red and yellow Starscreams that scaled perfectly with the Titanium Tetra-jet mold, an army-builder's dream come true! I bought a few, not having much use for all the dead weight from the knees up, but a month or 2 later I saw them all stacked on overheads and labeled "NOT FOR SALE", and learned they were ordered destroyed, an event tied with the closure of all US Toys'R'Us stores as my saddest toy store memory (bear in mind, the latter meant I was out of a job). Seriously, I should've come back with scissors and a box cutter, ripped open every pack, taken out the legs, then dared them to call the cops on me for "stealing" small parts of a product already designated trash instead of merchandise.

After that, tiny, piddly, official TFs trickled in to replace them. Whoop-dee-slag. I haven't had reason to enter a Big Lots in years, but even though I just found Wildrider and Jhiaxus in Target today, and Elita-1 last week, I guess that's my next stop to hunt for Tarantulas and Knock Out: the one TF "KO" the chain still apparently allows.

And SoundwaveSuperior24, if you're still reading this, and know where the KOs I'm talking about were buried, we have much to discuss in the Carbombya forum! Is it out in the desert by all those Atari games?

(Sorry about my odd quote structure above, but the post I'm replying to seems to keep disappearing when I go to the thread)

These figs have been in Asia for a little while now, but damn in my country they are selling at retail for almost 40$!

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Posted by SoundwaveSuperior24 on September 1st, 2022 @ 1:30am CDT
Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Say, SoundwaveSuperior24 (agree with most of that username BTW), do you have any insight as to whether the shift to current TF product was spurred ty Big Lots getting in trouble over the TF knock-offs they used to carry? That's why I LOVED Big Lots 15-20 years ago, starting with some of the same Beast Wars and Brave KOs previously found in Easter Baskets, then G1 and Machine Robo combiner teams, and finally enlarged Minicons and Legends figures which seem to have spurred a crackdown from Hasbro.

The final straw was apparently oversized KOs of the Operation Combination Six-______ torso and head with Cybertron Legends figures enlarged to near-Deluxe size as limbs. One used Vector Prime for arms, and the legs were red and yellow Starscreams that scaled perfectly with the Titanium Tetra-jet mold, an army-builder's dream come true! I bought a few, not having much use for all the dead weight from the knees up, but a month or 2 later I saw them all stacked on overheads and labeled "NOT FOR SALE", and learned they were ordered destroyed, an event tied with the closure of all US Toys'R'Us stores as my saddest toy store memory (bear in mind, the latter meant I was out of a job). Seriously, I should've come back with scissors and a box cutter, ripped open every pack, taken out the legs, then dared them to call the cops on me for "stealing" small parts of a product already designated trash instead of merchandise.

After that, tiny, piddly, official TFs trickled in to replace them. Whoop-dee-slag. I haven't had reason to enter a Big Lots in years, but even though I just found Wildrider and Jhiaxus in Target today, and Elita-1 last week, I guess that's my next stop to hunt for Tarantulas and Knock Out: the one TF "KO" the chain still apparently allows.

And SoundwaveSuperior24, if you're still reading this, and know where the KOs I'm talking about were buried, we have much to discuss in the Carbombya forum! Is it out in the desert by all those Atari games?

(Sorry about my odd quote structure above, but the post I'm replying to seems to keep disappearing when I go to the thread)

The reason you were having a little trouble with the post was it was waiting for approval being a new post, however you can still see the new posts when looking at the comments on the newstory. Those same posts are hidden in forum view. A quirk of the system.

So, my final Wreckers subline box finally arrived last night with Leadfoot and Masterdominus. It is a neat set, and probably my overall favorite of the Wreckers. I'd probably rank this set first, followed by Twintwist, Springer, Hound, and Impactor/Spindle.

I was also glad to finish the hammer, it is a neat piece and I look forward to putting it on the eventual Wreckers shelf with all these guys and my other Wreckers.




Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...


- https://showzstore.com/dna-design-dk-38_p4429.html

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

This is true. Most of the kits I want are smaller ones (spoilers and guns for the recent Lambos, etc) but those require Paypal, which I don't want to use. DNA started to only do "big" kits and then got really greedy by combining all three of the Scorp kits into one, overpriced Black Zarak kit. I probably would have bought the two main ones and ignored the leg extenders, like I did with Scorp, but I didn't bother with it after DNA pulled that stunt.

SoundwaveSuperior24 wrote:Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Thanks for the info. I had been under the assumption that this was the case for several years now, nice to see it confirmed. On the whole I'm not sure Big Lots' strategy is great, but with Ollie's in my area to fill their old niche it doesn't make much difference to me at this point. Now that I think about it, walking into an Ollie's is pretty much exactly like walking into a Big Lots or Odd Lots from 20-30 years ago.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

*puts his hand up about caring the least about G1 accuracy*

I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

ZeroWolf wrote:I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

Kinda came up with it this morning, it's a neat idea to justify 2 different types of Menasor designs and honestly makes me happier about this skeletal frame combiner with cars slapped on it. Adds extra layers to it that helps me enjoy it a lot more, both as a good toy and also with a fictional background to it

ZeroWolf wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

*puts his hand up about caring the least about G1 accuracy*

I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

Yeah, if Takara had put more thought into different limbs and configurations bestowing different powers on each gestalt back in the day, all the limb-swapping in the Scramble City OVA and G1 manga would've been more interesting and less pointless, at the cost of being more jarring whenever it intersected with any western TF fiction that would've still ignored the whole concept.

But alas, no one had the time, it was a mad...scramble...to get the corresponding toys and fiction out at all.