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I was talking about aoe and comparing the deluxe class with the titan figures of that line. I never saw the rid titans in stores, did you? Because thats what we are talking about here, the titan non transforming figures, not the one steps.

william-james88 wrote:I was talking about aoe and comparing the deluxe class with the titan figures of that line. I never saw the rid titans in stores, did you? Because thats what we are talking about here, the titan non transforming figures, not the one steps.

I have only seen 2 titan non-transforming toys ever in stores, and both were AoE Grimlocks

william-james88 wrote:I was talking about aoe and comparing the deluxe class with the titan figures of that line. I never saw the rid titans in stores, did you? Because thats what we are talking about here, the titan non transforming figures, not the one steps.

Ah. Yes I saw them in stores but they stayed around a lot longer than the deluxes. But really I think we just didn't get many deluxes. I'd see maybe a single case and that's it. Meanwhile there were stacks of Titans. They sold out eventually but the deluxes were long gone and never replaced.

SillySpringer wrote:Just on a side note, I think the reason why they call them "warrior" instead of "deluxe" is because in the dictionary, it says deluxe means "of fine quality, luxurious." The antonyms for "deluxe" are "cheap, basic." "Cheap" and "basic" are what they are called aren't they? I can just imagine them saying "f*** it we'll call em warriors."

Joking aside - I can't see any great difference in Quality between a Combiner Wars toy and say RID Jazz they both often have clip on wheels and a similar amount of paint and are the same size.

I think a prime reason they are called Warrior is that they don't come with a comic which adds a couple of bucks or so to the price. and also perhaps with some vague idea that calling them Warrior and Deluxe when they are from 2 different segment will aid the consumer.

But I don't think they put much store in that separation working - as otherwise wouldn't we have potentially seen a Combiner Wars Sideswipe & Jazz if there wasn't both already in the RID segment.

I suppose it's lucky Hasbro didn't rename The Protectobot Blades because of the Rescue Bot toys.

Yup, RAR, you are totally right. Ben from BWTF wrote about his argument against the critiques in his review of warrior class Optimus Prime:

The Warrior Class is still rather new to most fans, and one of the concerns people have had is about "how much" toy you're getting for your money. For comparison, I had "Beast Hunters" Prowl handy so I compared the two. Prowl stands at about 5 inches (roughly 12.7 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 2.8 ounces (79.3 grams). In comparison, Optimus stands at about 5.3 inches (roughly 13.4 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 3.2 ounces (about 90.7 grams). Of course, size and weight will vary figure to figure regardless of the line, but the point of this part of the review is to illustrate how the figure is not necessarily "less" toy than you would've gotten two years ago.

william-james88 wrote:Yup, RAR, you are totally right. Ben from BWTF wrote about his argument against the critiques in his review of warrior class Optimus Prime:

The Warrior Class is still rather new to most fans, and one of the concerns people have had is about "how much" toy you're getting for your money. For comparison, I had "Beast Hunters" Prowl handy so I compared the two. Prowl stands at about 5 inches (roughly 12.7 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 2.8 ounces (79.3 grams). In comparison, Optimus stands at about 5.3 inches (roughly 13.4 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 3.2 ounces (about 90.7 grams). Of course, size and weight will vary figure to figure regardless of the line, but the point of this part of the review is to illustrate how the figure is not necessarily "less" toy than you would've gotten two years ago.

Well it's certainly less paint; and due to the convenience of the animation style, very few molded details; so, yeah, take from it what you will

New listings for Robots in Disguise products have shown up at toywiz.com.

They are the following:

Transformers 1 Step Changers Quillfire Action Figure
Transformers Robots in Disguise Decepticon Fracture Action Figure Warrior Class
Transformers Robots in Disguise Blizzard Strike Optimus Prime Action Figure Warrior Class
Transformers Robots in Disguise Night Strike Bumblebee Action Figure Warrior Class

None of these had been found in the app and the Night Strike Bumblebee seems to be a different figure than the Night Ops Bumblebee. Still no word on the rumored Warrior Class Quillfire or Thunderhoof, but if ever there is, you will hear all about it on Seibertron.com.

Fracture.

Warrior class.


YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!

Oh, I was hoping for a deluxe Quillfire. There has been a unfortunate lack of Decepticons in this line. And a warrior Bisk would be awesome.

But whoopee for Fracture!

wait is it nightstrike and bumblebee or is it just a black repaint of bumblebee? im gonna be disappointed if its just the repaint

EDIT: never mind it is probably just the repaint

Wow! A brand-new Quillfire figure? Great! Glad to hear that, because you know, I've been waiting for a long time for this to happen. Hopefully, a Warrior-version of him will be released. Same thing goes for Terrashock, Bisk, Springload. Clampdown and many others! Please don't say that Pseudo won't be getting a figure like Makeshift, because it is likely that he will sometime in the near future. After all Pseudo is a ladybug larvae, and Makeshift is a human. In the cartoon, Makeshift like all other Shifters never had a figure, because his entire body was completely blackened out; whereas Pseudo's body was shown entirely for the very first time. It is also possible that he might re-appear in the cartoon, if Steeljaw releases him along with all of his friends. Therefore, as a result, Pseudo will be likely get a figure and not Makeshift. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens then at this years NYCC.

Speaking of Toy comparisons I did notice how much taller Animated Jazz was than RID-15 Jazz and also how much heavier Movie Jazz is than most of the other Deluxe Jazz toys are.

I think that Animated toys tend to be unusually tall though often due to the way they Transform.

I don't think there is huge difference between current toys and Prime toys as Prime toys often also had clip on wheels and minimal screws or pins in them. the further back in time you compare your Deluxes (or warriors) the more you notice how they have changed over time.

Or as I've said before now - remember who people used to mock Crossover toys for being a bit S*** well - I think looking at them now in retrospect they often don't look half as bad comparatively speaking they were at least well articulated and well painted.

So another Bee, another Prime, YAY for Fracture, but still no warrior Megatronus or others. Boo, I want the cons to start showing up. I'd really hoped Quillfire was the warrior, and that Megs and Thunderhoof would be there over Prime and Bee.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yup, RAR, you are totally right. Ben from BWTF wrote about his argument against the critiques in his review of warrior class Optimus Prime:

The Warrior Class is still rather new to most fans, and one of the concerns people have had is about "how much" toy you're getting for your money. For comparison, I had "Beast Hunters" Prowl handy so I compared the two. Prowl stands at about 5 inches (roughly 12.7 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 2.8 ounces (79.3 grams). In comparison, Optimus stands at about 5.3 inches (roughly 13.4 centimeters) tall and weighs in around 3.2 ounces (about 90.7 grams). Of course, size and weight will vary figure to figure regardless of the line, but the point of this part of the review is to illustrate how the figure is not necessarily "less" toy than you would've gotten two years ago.

Well it's certainly less paint; and due to the convenience of the animation style, very few molded details; so, yeah, take from it what you will

You're also paying for the App, whether or not you use it. Every toy is a character in it, and the game has no "freemium" model (unless I've missed something, which is possible because I've never been inspired to spend money on that app). It's just straight up "free" and the toys are the "freemium" part in this instance.

I`m very please to hear that Quillfire will be getting a figure. But I feel that it will be more exciting if there is a Warrior figure of him, as I stated earlier. The only characters left that are in need of a figure are Bisk, Clampdown, Springload, Filch, Malador, Nightstrike, Vertebreak, Octopunch, Groundpounder, and many others. I'm also curious to know if Pseudo is getting a figure or not. This is something that has been going around my head again and again. From what I know, Makeshift himself never had a figure, because his body had being entirely blacken out in the cartoon. Pseudo's body is completely shown in the cartoon, especially at the end of the episode. Because of this, chance are that he will indeed get a figure and Makeshift didn't. I'm pretty sure that if Steeljaw release him and his friend in the second season, perhaps that we might see him re-appear in the near future to know what is official alt-mode is. So far we haven't get a shot to see Pseudo's alt-mode. What we do already know is that Makeshift is a human and Pseudo is a ladybug larvae. Kickback must be getting a toy, since that he is the only one that has not been captured yet, and that he is expected to appear in season 2.

I am pretty certain that not all the decepticons will get toys. This being a monster of the week type show instead of team vs team makes it a tough incentive to produce toys of characters who have much less screen time. Underbite, steeljaw, clampdown, megatronus, thunderhoof and Fracture seem to be the main recurring ones of which I expect to see more toys of.

And Takara really seems to be doing their own thing wth this line. Giving us 2 exclusive show molds so far (sure, one is a etool but its not like ou can ut FOC grimlock in yor RID collection). I am looking forward to what else they come up with.

psj333 wrote:I`m very please to hear that Quillfire will be getting a figure. But I feel that it will be more exciting if there is a Warrior figure of him, as I stated earlier. The only characters left that are in need of a figure are Bisk, Clampdown, Springload, Filch, Malador, Nightstrike, Vertebreak, Octopunch, Groundpounder, and many others.

I'm sure I asked a similar question eeons ago on this page! although can't remember what replies I got at the time, but I agree! we've had loads of characters turn up in the cartoon...but no word as of yet if they've to get a toy of them or not, although hoping they do a Warrior Class of Megatronus

I really hope we get a warrior class quillfire and springload. That way I can have the dynamic duo together (if you seen the rid episode "one of our minicons is missing" you'll get why I need these two so bad).

Also would like a voyager sized figure of Ped, Terrashock,and Groundpounder (with a legion class headlock to go with him)

I'm really not sure how many of these guys will get toys. I mean lets think about it: When was the last line where the bad guys outnumbered the good guys toy wise? Plus, despite Season 2, many have showed up only once or twice, and some are very difficult to recreate in toy form. This line really seems to be shooting for light numbers, and considering the autobot repaints we will be getting soon, with more apparently lined up, and possible new bots and cons for next season, I'm not really sure how many would end up with a toy

You know something, D-Maximus_Prime? I truly do felt the same way as you are right now. I wish that most Decepticons in this show will be getting a toy. And like you said, we just don't know how many of them will end up being like one. Shifters so far never have toys because they have unusual shapes or forms. Does that really mean that Pseudo will never be getting a toy, just like Makeshift? From what I can tell, Makeshift and Pseudo's robot modes don't have unusual shapes or forms. They look just like ordinary Transformers. Makeshift did not get a toy for two reasons: 1- His human robot mode is totally blacked out, and 2 -he is killed for good. On to Pseudo, he might be actually getting a toy, because his robot mode doesn't have unusual forms. Rather, he actually has an animal-based robot mode, just like all other Decepticons for the show. And he is a ladybug larvae. Unlike Makeshift, Pseudo is still alive after being captured, and his body was entirely shown at the end of the episode. If you still don't know what a ladybug larvae looks like, have a look at this:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 2525646796

Now try to compare that with his robot mode is the show, and then tell me whether or not he should be getting a figure, due to a robot mode like this.

psj333 wrote:You know something, D-Maximus_Prime? I truly do felt the same way as you are right now. I wish that most Decepticons in this show will be getting a toy. And like you said, we just don't know how many of them will end up being like one. Shifters so far never have toys because they have unusual shapes or forms. Does that really mean that Pseudo will never be getting a toy, just like Makeshift? From what I can tell, Makeshift and Pseudo's robot modes don't have unusual shapes or forms. They look just like ordinary Transformers. Makeshift did not get a toy for two reasons: 1- His human robot mode is totally blacked out, and 2 -he is killed for good. On to Pseudo, he might be actually getting a toy, because his robot mode doesn't have unusual forms. Rather, he actually has an animal-based robot mode, just like all other Decepticons for the show. And he is a ladybug larvae. Unlike Makeshift, Pseudo is still alive after being captured, and his body was entirely shown at the end of the episode. If you still don't know what a ladybug larvae looks like, have a look at this:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 2525646796

Now try to compare that with his robot mode is the show, and then tell me whether or not he should be getting a figure, due to a robot mode like this.

As much as I admire your perseverance, I'm still not convinced he could get a toy. any alt mode he had would be difficult considering his form, and there have been characters who have appeared more often that have yet to get a toy. Now I will not throw out the idea that he could get a one-step or something, considering that is how we are getting several cons, but I honestly doubt he'd get a warrior since other main cons have yet to get that treatment

Psuedo could always transform into a more show-accurate version of Strongarm, since that was his alt mode (for five seconds).

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Here is the news a lot of people were waiting for. When we had found some new Robots in Disguise listings on Toy Wiz the other day, there was one anticipated figure that was still unconfirmed, but now things have changed. Toy Wiz now has a listing for Warrior Class Megatronus, finally confirming a very old rumor. The toy was first seen in the app along with the Legends and Ultra figure. This gives fans one more Decepticon figure to look forward to. The shipping date is said to be December. There were no pictures with the listing so stay tuned to Seibertron.com for when that is finally revealed.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

psj333 wrote:You know something, D-Maximus_Prime? I truly do felt the same way as you are right now. I wish that most Decepticons in this show will be getting a toy. And like you said, we just don't know how many of them will end up being like one. Shifters so far never have toys because they have unusual shapes or forms. Does that really mean that Pseudo will never be getting a toy, just like Makeshift? From what I can tell, Makeshift and Pseudo's robot modes don't have unusual shapes or forms. They look just like ordinary Transformers. Makeshift did not get a toy for two reasons: 1- His human robot mode is totally blacked out, and 2 -he is killed for good. On to Pseudo, he might be actually getting a toy, because his robot mode doesn't have unusual forms. Rather, he actually has an animal-based robot mode, just like all other Decepticons for the show. And he is a ladybug larvae. Unlike Makeshift, Pseudo is still alive after being captured, and his body was entirely shown at the end of the episode. If you still don't know what a ladybug larvae looks like, have a look at this:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 2525646796

Now try to compare that with his robot mode is the show, and then tell me whether or not he should be getting a figure, due to a robot mode like this.

As much as I admire your perseverance, I'm still not convinced he could get a toy. any alt mode he had would be difficult considering his form, and there have been characters who have appeared more often that have yet to get a toy. Now I will not throw out the idea that he could get a one-step or something, considering that is how we are getting several cons, but I honestly doubt he'd get a warrior since other main cons have yet to get that treatment

You know what, D-Maximus_Prime, that might be true. But if only Steeljaw successfully release all the Cons from the second season, perhaps we might get a chance to see Pseudo once again along with the rest of them. At that point, we might even get a closer of what Pseudy's official vehicle might be like. So far, he hasn't even have one yet. We do already know that he is a ladybug larvae. However, let just say that if he really do scan a official vehicle mode for season 2, what will it be most likely? And just because he is a Shifter, does that mean that he will never get a figure like Makeshift? Or that depends on how the robot is built? As for Animated Shockwave, better known Longarm, it is said he has shape-shifting powers. Does that make him a Shifter?