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[reluctantyouth]

Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

why not just wait for toys to show up on amazon. With these studio series toys, for isntance, Amazon got them before brick and mortar. Retail is changing, so why not change with it?

I agree with you and have done just that, but the hunt is part of the fun. Take the hunt away and collecting loses some magic.

[no-one]

So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Ha "Whirl" looks tiny there


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[DecepticonFinishline]

Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

why not just wait for toys to show up on amazon. With these studio series toys, for isntance, Amazon got them before brick and mortar. Retail is changing, so why not change with it?

I agree with you and have done just that, but the hunt is part of the fun. Take the hunt away and collecting loses some magic.

I won't speak for everyone else, but I ALSO like to support employment in my community. I get that the money doesn't stay here, but at least the people that live here will have jobs as long as people continue to support retail. Futile though it may be.

Anyways, those legs on Megatron really bum me out. The alt mode looks awesome, though.

[Carnivius_Prime]

So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Ha "Whirl" looks tiny there

Is that not roughly correct?
Blackout is a MH-53 Pave Low at 28 meters long and 7.6 meters high.
Dropkick is a Bell AH-1 SuperCobra at 17.7 meters long and 4.19 meters high.

[Randomhero]

Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

Yeah I go an extra five miles or so to the store I saw Dropkick/KSI Sentry at because they actually tend to move product, therefore they're more likely to have newer stuff. Thinking of other recent stuff, this same Target is one of only a few where I ever saw the last wave of RiD Crash Combiners.

I live in Des Moines which has 7 targets and 7 or 8 Walmart’s(it’s part of my job to know these things nexuses I’m a vendor) and I know exactly which ones move faster and which ones don’t. Mileage will vary per store. There’s two by residence that get the new waves relatively quick so I’ve been scoping them out very few days and both were the ones I saw KSI and Dropkick.

For some people online retail might be the best but I personally enjoy going out and finding them. The reasons online retailers have and get stuff faster than some actual stores is because they’re run by nerds or they just know what sell. Transformers are a 4 foot block in a store that’s over 15-20,000 square feet. To them it’s one of over 5,000 products they carry

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Jetpower Optimus looks good. Hell of a big gun. :O

What big gun? Last photos I saw only showed him having a big axe and he was still lacking the big gun from the movie. Did I miss something?

So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Did you buy them at same time or do you just always carry Blackout about with you? And what should the scale be here? Should there be a bigger difference size-wise?

Well, the MH-53 is 88' and the SuperCobra is 53'.
Of course, that's still way too huge compared to a muscle car but the Bumblebee movie's director seems to be something of a Geewunner without regard for the movieverse's established size rules (it's even worse of a size cheat than Evasion-mode Optimus).

[Carnivius_Prime]

Jetpower Optimus looks good. Hell of a big gun. :O

What big gun? Last photos I saw only showed him having a big axe and he was still lacking the big gun from the movie. Did I miss something?

Top left you can see him holding a huge weapon of Jetfire parts with his right arm.

Also they have the first SS Prime on the right and you can see how much brighter the new one combined to Jetfire on the left is. Forearms on the new one are worrying me a bit. Hoping just mistransformed or something. They look fine in the promo pics.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Thanks. It's still no more accurate than the ROTF Leaders' combo, it seems to be a case of trading off some inaccuracies for others. And Jetfire still suffers a bit for it but it seems like possibly less. It is good to have confirmation that they included the BFG - that was rather conspicuous by its absence in earlier photos.

As for the forearms, that looks to be a case of the panels being reconfigured halfway to vehicle mode to aid in the combination.

[Agent 53]

Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

Yeah, also there are places where you can get the latest Seige and Studio Series figures, Hasbro Toy Shop, Amazon, Ebay, etc.
Also I work at a Toy Shop and it's not the individual stores that make the orders, we get boxes of stuff sent from the big warehouses, some boxes have collections of random toys for different parts of the shop, so if you're upset with the content of your shops, complain to the head office, don't take it out on us employees.

[Nemesis Maximo]

Well, those Constructicons look...stupid.

So is Studio Series just going to be the Catch-all for all movie toys now? I’m fine with that, but boy howdy did the quality take a bit of a dive there.

Maybe it’s just my expectations being too high; after years of dreaming for an actually decent Bonecrusher figure, it probably would never have held up anyway.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Well, those Constructicons look...stupid.

So is Studio Series just going to be the Catch-all for all movie toys now? I’m fine with that, but boy howdy did the quality take a bit of a dive there.

Maybe it’s just my expectations being too high; after years of dreaming for an actually decent Bonecrusher figure, it probably would never have held up anyway.

Well, at this point it does seem to have wound up with as much Bumblebee Movie content as the actual Bumblebee Movie line, if not more. Hasbro might wanna consider repackaging.

The Constructicons look stupid because the Studio Series designers A. seem to have a complexity aversion and B. Insisted on (or were shackled with the mandate of) making ROTF 'Structies that both had independent robot modes and combine to form Devastator.

Is this Bonecrusher at least better than the Movie 1 Deluxe? Or about the same?

[ZeroWolf]

I think bonecrusher is better.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I think the Constructicons look good. If I don't get them it's mainly due to the cost of having to buy the whole team. They look a lot more fun to me than their G1 counterparts ever did (was never fond of those toys).

Bonecrusher looks good to me too. His 2007 Deluxe figure was fine and a fun toy but just too small. This one looks a lot better for scale. And since he's not part of Devastator I can just buy him on his own to fight Prime. Finally.

Anyways that me my final say til new photos and stuff appear. Have a good weekend, folks.

[Randomhero]

Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

Yeah, also there are places where you can get the latest Seige and Studio Series figures, Hasbro Toy Shop, Amazon, Ebay, etc.
Also I work at a Toy Shop and it's not the individual stores that make the orders, we get boxes of stuff sent from the big warehouses, some boxes have collections of random toys for different parts of the shop, so if you're upset with the content of your shops, complain to the head office, don't take it out on us employees.

Places like Walmart’s and targets do control their stock though. I’ve been in retail for 17 years since I was a kid and have dealt with Walmart’s and targets as a vendor for 10 years and have full blown witnessed the managers tell the employees “do not order anymore Toys until we get through the 6 pallets of nerf guns” I’ve seen and heard them refuse to order stuff because they sit on so much nerf, marvel and Star Wars toys. One of my friends at a target and I used to complain to him about never having transformers and he’s told me “we’re not ordering anything till we get rid of all the Star Wars stuff”

Anytime you see someone with a scanner gun st a Walmart, Target or even grocery store they doing their inventory and making the orders. I know because I made friend with those people so they’d let me know when they’d order the new waves.

[no-one]

This may bee old news, but I found a way to tighten up Bumbleveedub.

[-Kanrabat-]

So far, not much SS figures interested me. But I'll ready my wallet for ALL the Constructicons and WW2 Bee.

[Munkky]

Bonecrusher seems a bit tiny, just going by the Brawl next to him. I'd say Bonecrusher is now off my maybe pile and on my "Meh, I can live without it" pile. Barricade, Shatter, Sideswipe and Jetfire are still must-buys for me, though I'm still not 100% sold on the Constructicons. As for Optimus, I may wait to see what that rumoured Leader DOTM Optimus turns out like (just the Voyager mould again but this time with flight gear parts would be quite the letdown).

[Ironhidensh]

So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Did you buy them at same time or do you just always carry Blackout about with you? And what should the scale be here? Should there be a bigger difference size-wise?

Ha, no, I brought Blackout with me just to take that picture. The size difference shouldn't be bigger, it should be smaller. Yeah, there is a difference between the helos, but not that big of one.





So, now that time has passed since SS first came out, and with me going back and playing with several of the figures recently, the shiny newness of this line has worn off.

Most of these figures are very poor in the quality control department. They almost all have problems 'lining up' and holding together in alt mode. Several have extremely week joints in robot mode. I find myself less and less impressed with the line, and flat out disappointed in many figures.

In fact, I would say that out of all the molds in the line, only Optimus, Starscream, and Jazz are solid figures. These three transform very well, and stand with stability. I suppose Grimlock does as well, but I just plain don't care for this figure/character, and can't really make an unbiased opinion.

With this line, the price went up, and the quality went down. Add that to the drastic and ridiculous price increases that the MP side is taking, and the lack of my interest in Siege, and I believe that it may be time for me to take a long break from, and reconsider this hobby.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Maybe focus on filling the gaps in an earlier line you liked?

[Sentinel_Primal]

I'm so excited for the Constructicons, Jetfire, DOTM Megs, Sideswipe, Shatter, Bonecrusher, Barricade, and WWII Bee. I'm a little annoyed that I need to get a new Optimus figure for Jetfire/Prime... But it's fine considering the combination is worth it in my opinion. And I'm just hoping this Cogman works out better than the last release cause he never showed up in my area. I can see why people aren't too happy with Megatron's legs, but my main issue is the cloak. It looks too thin and flimsy . Oh well, I can work something out. I'm still really enjoying the Studio Series line, which is bad for my wallet Was hoping that I could just pick up the Movie 1 bots and be done, but Hasbro and Takara keep knocking these designs out of the park

[Rysquad]

Spotted at a Target in San Diego, CA (Mira Mesa Target)

[DMSL]

The sculpts are great, but the studio series scale is WAAAAY off. No way is it okay that an SUV or a car like Ratchet is the same size as a sedan. Those cars should have all been voyager class and figures like Megs, Prime, Starscream etc should have been leaders. Blackout should have been way bigger than that.

[Hellscream9999]

The sculpts are great, but the studio series scale is WAAAAY off. No way is it okay that an SUV or a car like Ratchet is the same size as a sedan. Those cars should have all been voyager class and figures like Megs, Prime, Starscream etc should have been leaders. Blackout should have been way bigger than that.

They are in scale, they're going off of the official robot mode scale chart, the vehicle mode scale doesn't matter to them

[-Kanrabat-]

The sculpts are great, but the studio series scale is WAAAAY off. No way is it okay that an SUV or a car like Ratchet is the same size as a sedan. Those cars should have all been voyager class and figures like Megs, Prime, Starscream etc should have been leaders. Blackout should have been way bigger than that.

They are in scale, they're going off of the official robot mode scale chart, the vehicle mode scale doesn't matter to them

Since when the vehicle scale mattered in ANY transformers universes and generations?

[ZeroWolf]

The sculpts are great, but the studio series scale is WAAAAY off. No way is it okay that an SUV or a car like Ratchet is the same size as a sedan. Those cars should have all been voyager class and figures like Megs, Prime, Starscream etc should have been leaders. Blackout should have been way bigger than that.

They are in scale, they're going off of the official robot mode scale chart, the vehicle mode scale doesn't matter to them

Since when the vehicle scale mattered in ANY transformers universes and generations?

Exactly, when people talk about scale it's all down to robot mode otherwise the combaticons and other special teams become ridiculous.