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News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:35 pm

Ratchets and Brawns vehicle modes look great. I'd need to give Brawn a different head in bot mode though and not have it representing Brawn at all but I'm pretty sure I have a spare Brawl titan master head.

Soundwaves alt mode looks pretty bad unless it has meant to have a purpose and even then, not so sure of it. Ravage looks pretty bad, he was way more zoid/energon looking but I guess the Energon figure could be used instead of him.

Shockwaves just kinda meh, would rather it been like the movie video game alt mode otherwise the other Baynus one SS or not would be the one to go for.

Not liking the new core packaging boxes, kinda hides the size of the figure (like how they exagerated TR Gnaws size) or feels a huge waste of packaging in Ravages case.

Two definite buys for me aint bad for a line I keep uhming and ahming if I should just sell what I have and keep to the other stuff.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:43 pm

There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?

by **Grahf_** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:44 pm

I like how Brawn's drill from that one episode is being used for his movie incarnation's Cybertronian mode.

That gun under Ravage looks like Soundwave's missile. It also has a rear peg and Soundwave's shoulder cannon has a front port. Yeah it's supposed to go in his handgun but oh well. I mean, there wasn't anything stopping someone from putting one of the missiles in the G1 shoulder cannon right? There's a port on the front of it. I haven't had a complete G1 Soundwave in a long time so I don't remember fully if you can. However, that's how I remembered it until I got Titanium Soundwave and the weapons were switched as far as I was concerned lol.

Speaking of Ravage, is it just me or does it look like the "create a Decepticon" original artwork for Night Stalker as created by Jason Yeo? No I don't mean Nightstalker who's a redeco of Steeljaw and an Autobot.

They all look like very good figures overall. I don't always pick up Studio Series figures for some reason but I'll be getting all of these. I'll even get two Ravage just so I can repaint one slightly into Night Stalker. I think I'll end up changing the eyes to red, the center head stripe to yellow and the red on the legs to yellow. I'll keep the sides of the head red to simulate the red in the ears of the original artwork.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:06 pm

I'm liking more Cybertronian altmodes.

Soundwave is a...

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:22 pm

I may be in the minority for saying I'm not really digging them. They look too similar to their original G1 forms, while I'm more about the new and different like the original movie designs were. The licensed vehicles help a lot too :lol:

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:25 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?

Core class, yes.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:25 pm

As much as I'd like Cybertronian modes to lean heavier into the less-human direction of the High Moon games. The recent WFC trilogy and BB movie Cybertron sequences would dictate "safe and familiar" is the ethos of this aesthetic.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:27 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As much as I'd like Cybertronian modes to lean heavier into the less-human direction of the High Moon games. The recent WFC trilogy and BB movie Cybertron sequences would dictate "safe and familiar" is the ethos of this aesthetic.

Huh... I still have Cybertronian Adventures for the Wii to start on. :-?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:30 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As much as I'd like Cybertronian modes to lean heavier into the less-human direction of the High Moon games. The recent WFC trilogy and BB movie Cybertron sequences would dictate "safe and familiar" is the ethos of this aesthetic.

Huh... I still have Cybertronian Adventures for the Wii to start on.

I know some on here, such as Will, were not entirely sold on those designs. However, Shockwave in particular, is still my favourite design for him. Chiefly because they modernised him.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?
Core class, yes.

"Core class", as in "Legends" scale or Deluxe? I'm a bit confused.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:34 pm

Maybe Soundwave is a purse for titans?..Viewmaster...80's gaming device...

I could guess all day and not even be close

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:36 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Maybe Soundwave is a purse for titans?

Lol, "Handbag-Wave", with Ravage turning into...whatever it is that ladies keep within such bags?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:36 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?
Core class, yes.

"Core class", as in "Legends" scale or Deluxe? I'm a bit confused.

Studio Series is part of Generations, and the price points are the same between the two; Studio Series just uses less of them. So SS Core is the same as Gen. Core Class.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:38 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Maybe Soundwave is a purse for titans?

Lol, "Handbag-Wave", with Ravage turning into...whatever it is that ladies keep within such bags?

Usually tazers to keep men who are into transformers away.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:00 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?
Core class, yes.

"Core class", as in "Legends" scale or Deluxe? I'm a bit confused.

Studio Series is part of Generations, and the price points are the same between the two; Studio Series just uses less of them. So SS Core is the same as Gen. Core Class.

Sorry, I'm still confused. What does "core class" mean? Deluxe or a Legends sized?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:10 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:There's still a SS 86 Ratchet coming out though, right?
Core class, yes.

"Core class", as in "Legends" scale or Deluxe? I'm a bit confused.

Studio Series is part of Generations, and the price points are the same between the two; Studio Series just uses less of them. So SS Core is the same as Gen. Core Class.

Sorry, I'm still confused. What does "core class" mean? Deluxe or a Legends sized?

Legends size, think Kingdom Rattrap. It's the upteenth renaming of the Class lower than Deluxe.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:10 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:Sorry, I'm still confused. What does "core class" mean? Deluxe or a Legends sized?

In 2021 they retitled what essentially used to be Legends Class (from 2013-2018) and was absent from 2019-2020, is now "Core Class"

so in short YES Core Class= Legends Class.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:10 pm

They all look good to me, but the winners are Brawn and Ratchet. Both look like they'd be right at home with the modern Diaclone line. Soundwave's alt mode is strange but I like him with odd alts so I'm good with it. Ravage is pretty small (as he should be) but seeing as he comes with the end of Soundwave's G1 gun he probably doubles as a Targetmaster. Might be a clue as to how G1 Core class tapes may be handled.

Emerje

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:11 pm

I forget, was Ravage the only "Cassette" from the BB Movie?

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Cheers folks. So, my dreams of getting an Earthmode Ratchet/Ironhide substitute for the rare Earthrise version are shattered?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:16 pm

Soundwave is a Tom Scioli design from the comics.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:17 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:Cheers folks. So, my dreams of getting an Earthmode Ratchet/Ironhide substitute for the rare Earthrise version are shattered?

For now...but who knows what a few years holds

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:22 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Cheers folks. So, my dreams of getting an Earthmode Ratchet/Ironhide substitute for the rare Earthrise version are shattered?

For now...but who knows what a few years holds

https://youtu.be/hFDcoX7s6rE

(Why doesn't the "YouTube" html tag work?)

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:22 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Cheers folks. So, my dreams of getting an Earthmode Ratchet/Ironhide substitute for the rare Earthrise version are shattered?

For now...but who knows what a few years holds

Yeah, a rumor just popped up about a Voyager Ironhide for SS86. Ratchet has always been an easy retool (and vise/versa). While I still find it puzzling that we have smaller representations of characters that essentially should be in the main generations line, spilling over into SS and SS86, it may help knowing these are just smaller more economical toys as easy buys for parents/kids (and yes some adults like them as well...) but assuming that proper versions will eventually come. But it also serves the duel purpose of getting out more accurately scaled versions of smaller characters such as Rattrap, BB ravage, Dracodon etc.

Combiner Wars did the same thing There were Legends Class AND Leader Class seekers both in the same line.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:23 pm

These look good and all...

But why is Shockwave in core class? I know Studio Series has had it's inaccuracies here and there but to get somebody's actual size class drastically different and to not scale with anything else?

This is like that Legends Shockwave figure from Combiner Wars but this time there's nothing for this Core Shockwave to go with! Like...again why?