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[Sabrblade]

Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.

Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.

It's like the complete opposite of how things were handled by the Hasbro team of 2010-2013, who were just so secretive and overprotective of everything. At every one of those years' BotCons, that Hasbro team held panels for new revelations related to the Aligned continuity (TF: Prime, the WFC/FOC video games, or just the Aligned lore in general) and each time they were like "What we're about to show you requires that you turn off all your cameras and recording devices, and if we find out that you've taken any pictures or videos of this, you're history, and so is our showing you all anything like this ever again!"

[Rodimus Prime]

Okay, I'm very impressed by the detail on The Fallen. I was gonna pass on him because I generally don't care for Bayverse, but that's a good looking figure.

And yes, Rumble is an insta-buy.

You know hasbro's done a figure right if it can make converts out of people

Well I wouldn't call myself a convert, but I'm not against getting a great looking piece like that either. I don't have many SS figures, leaders mostly, but this will be a centerpiece for sure.

I was gonna wait for the MPM version, but that might be years away and this looks great anyway.

[william-james88]

Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.

Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.

I also did enjoy hearing about how Inferno and Starscream do share that voyager budget and how a change in deco for inferno's ant eyes meant removing paint from Starscream's sword. It does confirm what people have been saying a long time that to understand how a figure comes out, you have to get a sense of the entire wave/class output.
As for the decision, it makes both figures more toy accurate. But at the same time, I woudn't have minded the original plan either. Still, cool to know they think a lot of stuff like that.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.

Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.

I also did enjoy hearing about how Inferno and Starscream do share that voyager budget and how a change in deco for inferno's ant eyes meant removing paint from Starscream's sword. It does confirm what people have been saying a long time that to understand how a figure comes out, you have to get a sense of the entire wave/class output.
As for the decision, it makes both figures more toy accurate. But at the same time, I woudn't have minded the original plan either. Still, cool to know they think a lot of stuff like that.

irnerno lacking the gun is sad, but not the end of the world. His original toy didn't come with it anyway (it came with weird pincers), but an upgrade kit surely will. On the upside, HE HAS MOUTH ARTICULATION! I don't remember seeing mouth articulation before, except maybe legacy metroplex.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

PvP review for The Fallen is out, the size comparisons are very cool to see! Fallen is very big, seemingly about the same height as Grimlock (if not slightly shorter)

Forgot to include the link in the news submission, sorry about that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzLUGe_XgdY&t=110s

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Perfection

[Rodimus Prime]

Yeah, that's a grand slam on the designers' part. Definite buy.

[chuckdawg1999]

Wait hold up, what gun are we talking about on Inferno, the four-barreled one that doubles as its boosters, the one in all the promo pics?

[Emerje]

Wait hold up, what gun are we talking about on Inferno, the four-barreled one that doubles as its boosters, the one in all the promo pics?

Pretty sure they mean this one.



They wanted to include a weapon but couldn't price it in so they went with the butt gun instead.

Emerje

[Dr. Caelus]

Just scored core class Ratchet and Wheelie for $8.49 each.

Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.

[Emerje]

Just scored core class Ratchet and Wheelie for $8.49 each.

Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.

Where from? And yeah, been having some issues myself with parts bouncing around in the box.

Emerje

[Dominus Prime]

Deeefinitely a better fallen then we got back in the day

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Wait hold up, what gun are we talking about on Inferno, the four-barreled one that doubles as its boosters, the one in all the promo pics?

The lack of the flamethrower from the show. The one with ant jaws on it that replaced the claw pincer from the toy.

[Dr. Caelus]

Just scored core class Ratchet and Wheelie for $8.49 each.

Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.

Where from? And yeah, been having some issues myself with parts bouncing around in the box.

Emerje

Target. Sort of an important detail, I guess. Guess I got over excited there.

[william-james88]

We thank EvasionModeBumblebee for sending more news regarding The Fallen our way. It seems quite a few fans got their hands on him already since we have content from China, Korea and now the UK. Below are photos from a blog post on a Korean website along with images from PrimevsPrime review. Those show The Fallen next to ROTF Megatron, the Jetfire/Prime combo and more. We also have in hand images of the alt mode, for those who find it important. Let us know what you think!

[Sabrblade]

That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.

[-Kanrabat-]

That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.

I guess that's the type of "vehicle" where anything goes.

Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...

[Rodimus Prime]

That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.

And it looks better.

[Spider5800]

Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...

In its defense, RotF The Fallen was pretty tall for a voyager back in the day as well. He towered over other voyagers like Starscream. So it might be throwing off things here.



But yeah, if you watch the video, the alt modes when he transforms them are almost exactly the same size. I might still pick this up, just for the more accurate...well, everything, but "big" is kind of relative compared to the massive toys of the earlier movie lines. I have deluxes from RotF that are bigger than today's voyagers.

[First-Aid]

That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.

And it looks better.

Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?

[-Kanrabat-]

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Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?

Definitely not.

The thickness of the ships are way different in the front. I guess SS Fallen will be kinda like the 2001 RiD Megatron and can transform into 12 "modes".

[First-Aid]

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Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?

Definitely not.

The thickness of the ships are way different in the front. I guess SS Fallen will be kinda like the 2001 RiD Megatron and can transform into 12 "modes".

Kind of interesting how the Fallen transforms into a almost flying saucer shape.

Wait...kind of reminds me of the ships in Independence Day.

[Spider5800]

I actually think they just have it mistransformed. The struts that connect to the arms in bot mode end up in completely different places on the render, like something is supposed to be pulled apart in the back of the vehicle and then connected to the legs/engines that they didn't do.

[william-james88]

That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.

I guess that's the type of "vehicle" where anything goes.

Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...

Isn't he bigger than Jetfire from 2014, the first leader in the Gen line we ever had?

[Dr. Caelus]

I actually think they just have it mistransformed. The struts that connect to the arms in bot mode end up in completely different places on the render, like something is supposed to be pulled apart in the back of the vehicle and then connected to the legs/engines that they didn't do.

The main thing I see is that the legs are bent more at the knee in the fan mode, bringing his heels together.