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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:14 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:And all chip bags already come half empty. ;)


Those who are genuinely serious when they complain about that grinds my gears. Not only the nitrogen is a conservative, it also prevent the chips to be utterly CRUSHED inside the bag. A simple fact too many people ignore or just can't think about.


What about cereal in a box? By coincidence I just opened a new box this morning. We usually pour the contents into hard plastic containers that keep it fresh, but no joke,the bag was half empty.
Most cereal boxes are flimsy. They would still get crushed if most things heavier than other cereal boxes get stacked on them. Though the box does provide a small measure of additional protection. Not much though.

Cereal is typically more resilient than thin potato chips and the small pieces are more likely to shift when pressure is applied rather than just sit there and get crushed.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:43 pm

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EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:What a wave! I really enjoy all these figures, I think they knocked them all out of the park!

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Galvatron may be my least favorite of the group, but it's not that I don't like it, I just like the others even more! The transformation is pretty cool, and the bot mode sculpt and proportions are very nicely done!

Sideways pulls off the design extremely well, I love how the arms work in bot mode with the spikes that stick out of the arms and the hands coming out of the tires, even with the buzzsaw blades in the tires! Alt mode is a pretty good recreation of an Audi without being licensed, and the gun from the Wii game is a great callback!

I will admit that I am strongly Bumblebiased, but DOTM Bumblebee is my favorite of the bunch! It's my favorite look for Bumblebee, and the amount of retooling they did is actually really impressive! The SS-49 mold was excellent as-is, but all the little changes for the DOTM model really elevate this figure!

Now bring on the next wave! Very excited to get them all in-hand and painted up!

I agree that the wave was pretty good. I personally really liked Sideways, there were some awesome cues thrown into him. Thundercracker was also really good, I love the dark blue they used. Bee was solid, and that mold has been pretty good. Galvatron wasn't the best, but he's still OK.

I am stoked for Hot Rod, Crosshairs, and the Fallen. I have a very specific set of circumstances that might let me get Ironhide too if I find him at Target this week.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:03 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby DeathReviews » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:And all chip bags already come half empty. ;)


Those who are genuinely serious when they complain about that grinds my gears. Not only the nitrogen is a conservative, it also prevent the chips to be utterly CRUSHED inside the bag. A simple fact too many people ignore or just can't think about.


Or maybe they don't know? It wasn't THAT long ago I learned about nitrogen in the bags.


I was today years old when I learnt it.


The nitrogen thing, maybe. But the "air" itself functioning as "padding" to prevent the chips from becoming a fine paste should be obvious.


Padding and preservation may be factors. But so is deceptive marketing, and that can't be simply batted aside. In commercials, bags of product like chips are almost always depicted as being full to overflowing when you open them, practically bursting out in a torrent like the horn of plenty. Which is why the reality of a nearly half-empty bag is such a disappointment.

Pringles are protected by a can. Yet those STILL come with about 1/8 empty air when you open them, and many of the chips are still in crumbles. With bags, the chips still pool into the bottom, where some of the contents get crushed anyway. But to be fair - most chip bags also have another disclaimer that usually reads, 'Sold by weight, not volume'. However, Transformer packages don't seem to have a similar disclaimer that says, 'Figure is priced by part count, not actual size'. Maybe they should do something like that, if that's to be used as one of the justifications for price hikes.

So while the chip thing isn't a perfect analogy (what is?), it's still apt enough for what we're seeing with some of this Hasbro packaging gimmickry. Based on the photos, it's obvious Hasbro COULD have easily fit SS Voyager Ironhide into a deluxe container, and still had plenty of shipping protection. That's if they were really concerned about reducing package waste and 'saving the environment'. But they didn't, because they knew customers would be outraged paying $34 for a deluxe sized box. Whether puffing a chip bag with air to make it 'look' fuller; or putting a small toy in a large box to make buyers think they're getting more for their money, it's still an underhanded trick to mask inflation, and which doesn't really fool anybody.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:11 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Had a fun time with this little shoot, I give you: Brawn from Bumblebee and is future Revenge of the Fallen self

It's like Steve Rogers before and after he became Captain America.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:22 am

The packaging of cereal and potato chips isn't misleading. The mass of the food inside the container is the part that's actually relevant to the person eating the food, not the volume, and the consumer can discern the mass from reading the label or simply picking up the package.

Heavy plastic 'toy surprises' or excessive iron could skew that, but the size of the bag/box not as much.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:54 pm

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The packaging of cereal and potato chips isn't misleading. The mass of the food inside the container is the part that's actually relevant to the person eating the food, not the volume, and the consumer can discern the mass from reading the label or simply picking up the package.


Kryten on Red Dwarf said it best - 'The first bite is with the eye.' An air-inflated bag will convey an impression that there's more in the bag than there actually is, regardless of what the net weight says in that little line at the bottom. But I already admitted: "most chip bags also have another disclaimer that usually reads, 'Sold by weight, not volume'.

But I added, "Transformer packages don't seem to have a similar disclaimer that says, 'Figure is priced by part count, not actual size". Or, some might add, by weight.

Heavy plastic 'toy surprises' or excessive iron could skew that, but the size of the bag/box not as much.


Packaging is in a weird state of flux now for action figures. Hasbro is dancing around, trying to find a standard that settles on a tolerable amount of customer dissatisfaction, while still serving the primary purposes of product shipping and protection. On the one hand, Hasbro is publicly stating they're getting rid of plastic windows 'to save the world from global warming' (or whatever). On the other hand, they're putting smaller toys into larger boxes, and thus perpetuating a level of wastage that runs contrary to their stated intentions. And also the whole 'open vs. closed' box thing which has its own points. On the one hand, an open box with no plastic barrier encourages theft and exposes the figure to potential damage/tampering. On the other hand with a completely closed box, you can't visually inspect the figure - so you can't confirm what you're buying until you open it. This forces persnickety collectors to ruin the 'mint condition/never been opened' resale potential because they have to break the factory seals to make sure they weren't the victims of toy swappers.

And also this issue, where the company either has to put deluxe size figures into voyager size boxes with an open window - and expose how much empty space is in the box. Or put the figure in a closed box, and risk all the other issues listed above. All sides of the debate seem to have their own points to make, and their territory staked out. Knowing the marketing/retail industry as I do, I know that manipulating perception is a strong factor in sales, and packaging is a part of that.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:21 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Had a fun time with this little shoot, I give you: Brawn from Bumblebee and is future Revenge of the Fallen self

It's like Steve Rogers before and after he became Captain America.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:53 pm

DeathReviews wrote:
The packaging of cereal and potato chips isn't misleading. The mass of the food inside the container is the part that's actually relevant to the person eating the food, not the volume, and the consumer can discern the mass from reading the label or simply picking up the package.


Kryten on Red Dwarf said it best - 'The first bite is with the eye.' An air-inflated bag will convey an impression that there's more in the bag than there actually is, regardless of what the net weight says in that little line at the bottom. But I already admitted: "most chip bags also have another disclaimer that usually reads, 'Sold by weight, not volume'.


Priming can have a powerful impact on minor decisions or decisions made under a time pressure or high cognitive load, but has less impact the more central route processing is engaged. Exploiting it as a marketing technique depends on the product being overall cheap, necessary (if I don't buy this food I still have to buy SOME food), and trivial - under those conditions, using a larger box or bag than your competition can give you enough of an edge to reap a financial benefit.

If someone is thinking so little about their decision to buy a $33.00 toy, however, they probably don't care at all about what's in the box - they're probably sold by the fact that the price point meets some social obligation.

Also, I don't understand why you think there needs to be some disclaimer justifying the price. The price of an end product (as opposed to raw material) is based on a long list of things including the subjective value of the intellectual property and the artistry of the sculpting and engineering. I mean, it really flabbergasts me that anyone would suggest this as something other than a joke. Should we also have disclaimers on cars and cell phones noting that they are not priced by weight? How are you planning to use the product such that weight is your primary gauge for its value relative to a competing product? Doorstop? Blunt weapon?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby LinaNui » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:23 pm

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The Fallen is/ was in stock at BBTS today! I ordered one and it should be here in a couple days! I am so excited!!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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LinaNui wrote:The Fallen is/ was in stock at BBTS today! I ordered one and it should be here in a couple days! I am so excited!!

I saw him pop in and ordered him as well, hopefully he ships out soon!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:44 am

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LinaNui wrote:The Fallen is/ was in stock at BBTS today! I ordered one and it should be here in a couple days! I am so excited!!

And you just can't hide it. ;)

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby LinaNui » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:22 am

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This guy is so awesome. I am so happy to have him now. The only things I could see improving on would be another joint to better curl the hands and a double joint in the spear so you could bend it like in the movie. Overall a 10/10 figure. Easily my top figure of 2022.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:23 am

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Leader The Fallen is just a huge pile of Bay garbage random nonsense! :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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LinaNui wrote:This guy is so awesome. I am so happy to have him now. The only things I could see improving on would be another joint to better curl the hands and a double joint in the spear so you could bend it like in the movie. Overall a 10/10 figure. Easily my top figure of 2022.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:27 pm

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Video Review of Studio Series DOTM Laserbeak (New Bumblebee Mold)

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:12 pm

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Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg, we have a video review of the upcoming Transformers Studio Series DOTM Laserbeak. This mold will be released in Bumblebee colours as well next year so fans wanting that toy can get a good idea of the transformation here.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:55 pm

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Very excited to get ahold of Laserbeak and the eventual Bumblebee repaint!

I am curious what all the holes on the roof are for, some of them look to be in the place that Bee's shoulder rocket launchers would go? Bee doesn't use them in robot mode in DOTM, but it'd be cool if they included them with Bee anyway!
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First US Sighting of Studio Series Core Class 86 Rumble and DOTM Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am

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Primeisboss has sent us a message telling us that they found Studio Series 86 core class Wheelie, Rumble and Dark of the Moon Laserbeak at US retail. They were all found at Target. We also included some video reviews of the two new releases below if you wanted to check them out before buying them.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:24 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 pm

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I can understand the molding hole behind the head and on the inner limbs.

But what's up with those huge holes on the car's hood? Those makes absolutely no sense.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:26 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I can understand the molding hole behind the head and on the inner limbs.

But what's up with those huge holes on the car's hood? Those makes absolutely no sense.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:30 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I can understand the molding hole behind the head and on the inner limbs.

But what's up with those huge holes on the car's hood? Those makes absolutely no sense.

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Supposedly it's for weapons that will come with the Bee version.

I do wonder if a future Bee version will have the hood top Gatling guns.

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Firepower: 3
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