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[cloudballoon]

I'll improvise some fan modes.

Yeah, he's small, but he's meaty and I like it.
Worth the full price? I guess it is.

I called it a Six-changer Plus, the "Plus" being him having 2.5 tank variants.

So far, he's a:

Bot
Tanks (1. official, 2. Emiliano's concept (legs twisted sideways), 2.5 Emiliano's concept but the front of legs facing up so the treads are on the ground. I'm not spoiling the fun for you to experiment)
Jet
Gun
Gerwalk
MEG-209 Attack Mech (think Robocop's ED-209)... I like this mode the best.

Extra Bonus tank modes: Have the jet's cockpit half-folded out like Blitzwing. Another is have Megs' head pop out to pay homage to his ROTF Tank mode. Both are worth a chuckle.

As for the price, I look at it this way: he doesn't look out of place next to Yolopark's AMK or next to ThreeZero MDLX, in both looks & articulation. Dude's a gymnast! Only thing really missing is an ab crunch and cost less than half of an MDLX. He's solid. No hollowness. He's a steal looking at it from that perspective. Take half an hour to do a weathering and little detailing touch up and he'll look like a $100~$150 dollar 3P figure.

I hope his hands' articulation is the next standard for Leader & up, while Tarn/Jhiaxus for Voyager.

[Overcracker]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

[Emerje]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

But hopefully not the last.



The unproduced Animated Megatron figure that everyone wants to see appear in Legacy or whatever replaces it and the design team didn't say no to.

Emerje

[First-Aid]

If they are now doing Concept art figures, does that mean we can get those Transtech figures we saw for the sequel to Beast Machines?

[Emerje]

If they are now doing Concept art figures, does that mean we can get those Transtech figures we saw for the sequel to Beast Machines?

Probably not in Studio Series since they didn't actually get any media behind it (outside of some club stuff), but they could probably do something in the main line.

Emerje

[First-Aid]

If they are now doing Concept art figures, does that mean we can get those Transtech figures we saw for the sequel to Beast Machines?

Probably not in Studio Series since they didn't actually get any media behind it (outside of some club stuff), but they could probably do something in the main line.

Emerje

I LOVED those Transtech designs. I want to see those in the worst way.

[Overcracker]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

But hopefully not the last.



The unproduced Animated Megatron figure that everyone wants to see appear in Legacy or whatever replaces it and the design team didn't say no to.

Emerje

One can only hope. That design was almost perfect.

[Sabrblade]

You guys do know that if they ever actually do do that Animated Marauder Megatron that it's just going to get G1-ified and won't actually look as good that old test shot, right?

[First-Aid]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

But hopefully not the last.



The unproduced Animated Megatron figure that everyone wants to see appear in Legacy or whatever replaces it and the design team didn't say no to.

Emerje

One can only hope. That design was almost perfect.

You know, with a few minor tweaks, that could be a FOC/WFC type of Blitzwing.

[Rodimus Prime]

You guys do know that if they ever actually do do that Animated Marauder Megatron that it's just going to get G1-ified and won't actually look as good that old test shot, right?

In this case G1-ification would be an improvement. That old concept looks terrible in the 2 vehicle modes. The robot mode looks halfway decent.

[Cheesinator]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

I know G1 nostalgia is a powerful thing, but is this a widely held belief?

As someone who only got into Transformers around the Beast Wars era, I always thought G1 Blitzwing was pretty bad. The jet looked good from the top down but mass of junk under the wings was visible from any other angle (which IMO is the same for pretty much every jet mode we've seen in a jet-tank triple changer since) and the jet cockpit just brazenly sticking out in tank killed the whole look for that mode too. And of course the robot mode suffered heavily to accommodate the other two.

Totally subjective of course, I'm just curious as to which one is generally considered the best mass-produced attempt at a jet-tank transformer.

[DeathReviews]

Another try at a robot that turns into a tank and a jet, and another fail.
Seems it’s just hard to make a tank turn into a jet.

G1 Blitzwing is still surprisingly the best at it.

I know G1 nostalgia is a powerful thing, but is this a widely held belief?

As someone who only got into Transformers around the Beast Wars era, I always thought G1 Blitzwing was pretty bad. The jet looked good from the top down but mass of junk under the wings was visible from any other angle (which IMO is the same for pretty much every jet mode we've seen in a jet-tank triple changer since) and the jet cockpit just brazenly sticking out in tank killed the whole look for that mode too. And of course the robot mode suffered heavily to accommodate the other two.

Totally subjective of course, I'm just curious as to which one is generally considered the best mass-produced attempt at a jet-tank transformer.

I agree. Having once had G1 Blitzwing in my collection, I was quite familiar with its strengths and weaknesses. The jet cockpit sticking out of the front of the tank is the most infamous. But for me, the weakest point was the jet tail fins serving as the robot's only 'feet'. They wouldn't hold in place, they were thin, loose and wobbly, and completely unsuitable for holding up and balancing the figure's weight. For all the flaws of the new Legacy version, they at least fixed that issue.

Though that only raises the question in my mind that many bring up when Legacy Blitzwing's flaws are challenged. When the issue of the jet cockpit at the front of the tank is raised, defenders often point to the G1 figure and say 'G1 accuracy' was paramount to the designers. But if that's the case, why didn't they also have the jet fins as his only feet for the same reasons? Why was the flaw of Blitzwing's dinky, dainty feet worth fixing for the Legacy version, but not the horrible jet cockpit sticking out from the front of the tank....?

[TF-fan kev777]

Though that only raises the question in my mind that many bring up when Legacy Blitzwing's flaws are challenged. When the issue of the jet cockpit at the front of the tank is raised, defenders often point to the G1 figure and say 'G1 accuracy' was paramount to the designers. But if that's the case, why didn't they also have the jet fins as his only feet for the same reasons? Why was the flaw of Blitzwing's dinky, dainty feet worth fixing for the Legacy version, but not the horrible jet cockpit sticking out from the front of the tank....?

I think you are mixing up toy and toon. G1 Blitzwing had actual feet in the cartoon along with the cockpit in tank mode, the cockpit's appearance in the toon tank mode is what gives it a pass for some. I would have been fine without it if it meant a better jet mode.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

We have Studio Series 2025 listings from JTPrime, and there's some very exciting stuff!

Tra Gen Studio series A level DLX TFONE B-127
Product Number: G0619

Tra Gen Studio series A Level DLX DEV Optimus Prime
Product Number: G0620

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF7 Double Punch
Product Number: G0533

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Hatchet
Product Number: G0539

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe MV6 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0564

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Perceptor PR
Product Number: G0565

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TFONE Starscream
Product Number: G0566

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Que
Product Number: G0567

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Bonecrusher
Product Number: G0568

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Jazz PR
Product Number: G0569

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Scavenger
Product Number: G0570

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe WFC Autobot Soilder
Product Number: G0571

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Product Number: G0857

Tra Gen Studio Series Voy WFC Skywarp
Product Number: G0534

Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Optimus Prime PR
Product Number: G0536

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Ironhide
Product Number: G0559

Tra Gen Studio series Voy TFONE Sentinel Prime
Product Number: G0560

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Thundercracker
Product Number: G0561

Tra Gen Studio series Voy 86 Scrapper
Product Number: G0562

Tra Gen Studio Series Voy 86 Mixmaster
Product Number: G0563

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF7 Apelinq
Product Number: G0480

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF4 Optimus prime
Product Number: G0482

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF3 Shockwave PR
Product Number: G0483

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Grimlock PR
Product Number: G0485

Of particular note for myself and other Bay fans:
Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Hatchet
Product Number: G0539

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Que
Product Number: G0567

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Product Number: G0857

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF4 Optimus prime
Product Number: G0482

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF3 Shockwave PR
Product Number: G0483

Que and Hatchet! A Shockwave reissue! AOE LEADER PRIME! And out of completely left field, AOE Widowmaker! I'm so excited for these figures, glad to see the Bayverse getting more than just 1 core figure per year after 2 years!

[Sabrblade]

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Product Number: G0857

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

[quote="Sabrblade"][/quote]

Widowmaker is from AOE Concept art (like BB Megatron), and was an initial concept for who would eventually become Stinger. Same alt mode, even! A very left field pick, but I'm down for it! She'll look really cool with Stinger and the other KSI bots.

We actually have a LOT of concept art for the character, but this is one of the main ones:

[chuckdawg1999]

Though that only raises the question in my mind that many bring up when Legacy Blitzwing's flaws are challenged. When the issue of the jet cockpit at the front of the tank is raised, defenders often point to the G1 figure and say 'G1 accuracy' was paramount to the designers. But if that's the case, why didn't they also have the jet fins as his only feet for the same reasons? Why was the flaw of Blitzwing's dinky, dainty feet worth fixing for the Legacy version, but not the horrible jet cockpit sticking out from the front of the tank....?

I think you are mixing up toy and toon. G1 Blitzwing had actual feet in the cartoon along with the cockpit in tank mode, the cockpit's appearance in the toon tank mode is what gives it a pass for some. I would have been fine without it if it meant a better jet mode.

This is the kind of debate that I think people should have in front of the giant robot after it transforms while everyone else is screaming and running away.

[Emerje]

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Product Number: G0857

Seems to be a Stinger repaint/retool.

The Pagani Huayra that eventually ended up as Stinger was at one point intended as the alternate mode of a female robot with the working name "Widow Maker".

[edit: Dang, spent too long reading the list.]

Emerje

[LinaNui]

OMG we are getting some figures finally! I am so pumped for Que and AOE prime! Really excited to see what widow maker will be along with hatchet too! This is a great night!

[o.supreme]

Double Punch is an interesting pull, but I guess to keep the name going. No doubt this will be a SS107 Scorponok repaint, basically because every other Double Punch has been loosely based on alternate versions of Scorponok.

[chuckdawg1999]

Voyager and Deluxe 86 Constructicons? Oh, happy day!

[Gauntlet101010]

86 Devastator? You have my attention. I have 3P Herc and Giant as well as the Takara titan, but I'd be down for a new version, especially if it's about the same size as CW combiners.

[Sabrblade]

Double Punch is an interesting pull, but I guess to keep the name going. No doubt this will be a SS107 Scorponok repaint, basically because every other Double Punch has been loosely based on alternate versions of Scorponok.

There were three versions of the scorpion modeled for the movie: Sandstorm, Scorponok, and Double Punch.



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[Emerje]

Thanks to consistently accurate leaker JTprime17, by way of our own Seibertronian EvasionModeBumblebee, we have a list of what may be all of the Studio Series retail releases for 2025. No, that's not a typo, it's the end of February 2024 and we already know what's coming out next year. Once the shock wears off there's some really interesting things listed here. For one we seem to be going back to the Bayverse movies in a pretty big way! Hatchet seems to have found a new home after the Target release was canceled, Que is finally getting a new figure, Age of Extinction Optimus Prime is getting updated at last and the Stinger mold might be coming back with a retool as the unused concept fembot "Widow Maker".

Gamer Edition is continuing with the expected Starscream repaints and Ironhide. Studio Series 86 looks to be giving us the first four members of the Constructicons in a mix of Voyagers and Deluxes (the rest will surely be coming in 2026), and package refreshes of Grimlock, Perceptor and Jazz. We've also got a few listings for TF:One, Rise of the Beasts and another A Level Optimus Prime.

Full list can be seen below and be sure to discuss it in the Energon Pub forums!

We have Studio Series 2025 listings from JTPrime, and there's some very exciting stuff!

Tra Gen Studio series A level DLX TFONE B-127
Product Number: G0619

Tra Gen Studio series A Level DLX DEV Optimus Prime
Product Number: G0620

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF7 Double Punch
Product Number: G0533

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Hatchet
Product Number: G0539

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe MV6 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0564

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Perceptor PR
Product Number: G0565

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TFONE Starscream
Product Number: G0566

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF3 Que
Product Number: G0567

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Bonecrusher
Product Number: G0568

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Jazz PR
Product Number: G0569

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Scavenger
Product Number: G0570

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe WFC Autobot Soilder
Product Number: G0571

Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Product Number: G0857

Tra Gen Studio Series Voy WFC Skywarp
Product Number: G0534

Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Optimus Prime PR
Product Number: G0536

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Ironhide
Product Number: G0559

Tra Gen Studio series Voy TFONE Sentinel Prime
Product Number: G0560

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Thundercracker
Product Number: G0561

Tra Gen Studio series Voy 86 Scrapper
Product Number: G0562

Tra Gen Studio Series Voy 86 Mixmaster
Product Number: G0563

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF7 Apelinq
Product Number: G0480

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF4 Optimus prime
Product Number: G0482

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF3 Shockwave PR
Product Number: G0483

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Grimlock PR
Product Number: G0485

[o.supreme]

Double Punch is an interesting pull, but I guess to keep the name going. No doubt this will be a SS107 Scorponok repaint, basically because every other Double Punch has been loosely based on alternate versions of Scorponok.

There were three versions of the scorpion modeled for the movie: Sandstorm, Scorponok, and Double Punch.



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Interesting. I watch the films, but dont know enough about the Behind the scenes to differentiate. I just figure they wanted to use the mold as many times as possible .

For instance, I have no idea if Novakane from Freezer was planned (like the above Scorponoks) or if Hasbro just wanted to recolor the tiny Terrorcon.