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News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:40 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.

So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?

Economics, you're paying more for the packaging, especially since the Deluxe Class figures come in boxes too instead of on cards.

Can I blame it on brexit and go punch someone to make me feel a lil better?

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:51 am

I highly suspect these will get a rapid price drop shortly into their release like all the other movie lines. They start high and then go back to "normal" prices as a "sale".

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:17 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.

So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?

Economics, you're paying more for the packaging, especially since the Deluxe Class figures come in boxes too instead of on cards.

Can I blame it on brexit and go punch someone to make me feel a lil better?

No, you can blame it on Hasbro and their endless quest for higher and higher profit margins- which means less product for more money.

Seriously, at this rate 3P stuff isn't just going to be better than HasTak, it'll be cheaper too.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:17 am

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:21 am

A shame the prices will be so obscene because that Megatron looks sooooo good. And am I the only one that wants that Optimus Prime done up as Destructicon Scourge?

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:25 am

King Kuuga wrote:I highly suspect these will get a rapid price drop shortly into their release like all the other movie lines. They start high and then go back to "normal" prices as a "sale".

Hope so. These are 'my' TF toys and at these prices I won't be able to afford them.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 am

Oh my god Turbo Grimlock's helmet thing is bloody hilarious; I love that.

Anyway these prices are **** stupid.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:35 am

Some early pictureless listings have appeared on Amazon Spain for new Transformers: The Last Knight toys that were previously unknown. So far, there has only been confirmation of 3 waves of Transformers: The Last Knight toys and one voyager was left to be revealed. People thought it could be Onslaught or another new character, but it is now confirmed to be a Voyager Bumblebee.

Also, there is a listing for a new Leader figure: Dragonstorm (which is called Leader Dragon in the listing). This is great news since so far we only had him as a giant One Step and a tiny Legion toy.

There are other new listings as well, all can be found below:

Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Class Bumblebee
Transformers: The Last Knight Leader Class Dragonstorm
Transformers: The Last Knight 1-Step Turbo Changer Sqweeks
Transformers: The Last Knight Armor Up Turbo Changer Hound
Transformers: The Last Knight Armor Up Turbo Changer Bumblebee

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:32 am

Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!! :shock:

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!!

That's King Grimlock to you, peasant.

by **breacher** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:50 am

Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better, heck, even the robot mode looks awesome.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:52 am

breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better, heck, even the robot mode looks awesome.

Um are you looking at them the right way round? The voyager is great and the turbo charger is simplified and a bit out of proportion.

At least the dino arms on the turbo charger look more secure though i suppose.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:57 am

Wait, Voyager Bumblebee? :shock:

Unless he's got a new non-car altmode, this could be the first time we've ever gotten a normal-looking non-truck/non-buggy car Transformer in the proper Voyager class of a regular multi-size class toyline (Alternators and MP are not normal lines, Human Alliance was a separate size class from Voyager, and Cybertron Crumplezone and Thirlling 30 Springer were sci-fi cars).

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:06 am

Sabrblade wrote:Wait, Voyager Bumblebee?

Unless he's got a new non-car altmode, this could be the first time we've ever gotten a normal-looking non-truck/non-buggy car Transformer in the proper Voyager class of a regular multi-size class toyline (Alternators and MP are not normal lines, Human Alliance was a separate size class from Voyager, and Cybertron Crumplezone and Thirlling 30 Springer were sci-fi cars).

I kinda hope it isn't a car though not sure what else it could possibly be. For my tastes Deluxe is the right size for the cars since they scale well with the majority and since cars are so used so much in the entire franchise it's best they're in the easily affordable range. I did like the HA line but in the end I sold them all off cos I just found them too big and awkward to go with much else.

News Credits: 53 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:11 am

VOYAGER Bumblebee?! Bee's never gotten a voyager before, so I'm very intrigued to see what this one will look like. Perhaps this one will include the hammer?

(I really wish they had a spit take emoji because I totally would've used it just then)

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:19 am

The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.

I'm not bothered by the prices as ARGOS often has "Half Price Sales" so the stupid prices won't catch out only the desperate.

They usually have a Half Price sale in November for example and possibly other times. so that would put a Voyager down to £17.50

I wouldn't be surprised if Smyths, Very and even TRU will be cheaper and The Entertainer flip flops from expensive to dirt cheap too.

But yes £23.00 for a reissued Bumblebee in a different shade of yellow that TRU couldn't hardly give away even when it came with a free Generations Bumblebee is sort of delusionally amusing.

Especially if these end up sharing shelves with other DISCOUNTED Transformers - I know i'd rather have an RID Blurr for £8.99 than a Reissued Slash (in baby blue) for £23.00 when I could buy a Titans Return Voyager for that and have several pounds change.

I do kinda like the new Hound though... which is odd as I never even bothered to buy the previous one at all.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:40 am

RAR wrote:The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.

To be fair, that was a massive shellformer. The entire front of the cab is a solid piece that just flipped over to be a giant solid backpack (reason I didn't get it). And I believe the legs are also fused together, though I may be wrong on that one.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:51 am

Flip that helmet up and you got a decent tail club/thagomizer.

News Credits: 1014 · by **First Gen** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:45 am

Really digging Starsc..... Megatron.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:47 am

Sabrblade wrote:Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!!

No. I think it's a chicken! :shock:

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:53 am

RAR wrote:The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.

So what, it has a garbage robot mode with crap articulation.

I mean if the robot mode doesnt count for anything and we are only looking at the truck mode, then this one has all the rest beat.

Anyways, RAR, can you please show me what the slight colour changes are between the hasbro and takara voyager First Edition Prime? Because no one has found any yet. If there is an actual change you can spot, show it to us and we can news it.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:15 pm

breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better.

You sure you didnt miss the giant green tumour it has growing on the tip of its tail?

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:17 pm

william-james88 wrote:
breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better.

You sure you didnt miss the giant green tumour it has growing on the tip of its tail?

Grimlock doesn't like to talk about that, okay? He's sensitive about it.

:o)

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:20 pm

Man, is it just me, or did has/tak really nail each version of megs (both voyager and leader) they both look equally great on their own merit, and I really wouldn't mind double-dipping (especially as all the other offerings look fairly paltry)

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:50 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, is it just me, or did has/tak really nail each version of megs (both voyager and leader) they both look equally great on their own merit, and I really wouldn't mind double-dipping (especially as all the other offerings look fairly paltry)

Na, that voyager looks less and less great. He's pretty much a robot under a jet, you can even see his feet right under his wings. It ends up having a similar transformation (for the legs) to Prime Megatron. Also, unlike the Leader, the weings fold up around his legs in robot mode so you also get some random wing parts there instead of a uniform robot mode. He's also more kibbly in robot mode than I would have thought, with those pieces of kibble dangling at his waist.

I think I will still get him but he is definitely losing some of that magic I first saw.