John Stamoist wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Crosshairs was the triple changer.
John Stamoist wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:RhA wrote:I stand by my belief that internetpetitions do not work.
I also would point out that, given Hasbro's target audience, they would make any movie like this accessibile to them, so expect violence to be toned down.
Why make the point about bay-bots? Since the films started we've had Transformers Animated, Transformers: Prime and Transformers" Rescue Bots on tv.
I disagree, Gundam has made shows for kids like Gundam Age and G no Reconquista, but there is still a good amount of violence and death.
The problem is how parents overreact to **** like this, this is only a problem in the US. When I go to Greece they show DBZ and other anime Saturday morning without editing the language or violence, yet you don't see them shooting up schools. The same applies for Japan, Naruto was targeted at kids and that show has plenty of gory violence and death.
Don't even get me started on the American censors. Since the 90's it's been hell. I have never advocated the case for cutting out violence. If you want to stop kids from being violent? Teach them not to be, don't shelter them from it.
I have no problem letting my kids (6 and 4) watching even the Bay movies. Yes, they are violent. But we talked to the boys about it and told them what is acceptable (and the 6 year old is the one to worry about, he is always my potential problem child, but I get no reports from school that he's violent or aggressive.. they usually describe as sweet... and talkative). Showing by example and by explaining has worked for me so far.
Spot on way to raise your kids. I was raised pretty much the same way except at 6 my cousins were making watch Children of the Corn and It. On top of that I would watch all the mafia movies with my dad at that age: Goodfellas, Casino, Godfather Trilogy and etc.
Did I swear at school despite hearing Joe Pesci use the f word every 3 words? Nope. Did I bully people and have outbursts of violence? Nope.
Not sure why it's still the games and stuff people watch that get blamed for crimes and school shootings.
Why thank you
But as too why there's so much overreaction....
Why it gets blamed is kind of a weird social thing. Every generation is guilty of this. Every 10 years society 'degrades', or more exactly, we start getting old and look back on growing up as halycon days when things were less violent and kind of washed in a warm glow of nothing bad happening.
As kids grow up, people start seeing the things they're doing as dangerous, scandalous, shocking.... despite the fact that they did the same things. Being a parent gives you such a weird perspective. I see all the things my kids are doing and panic. But I end up reminding myself I did the same thing as a kid.
If you look back over even just the history of the 20th century, you can see how morals have become 'looser' Consider at 1900 women wore skirts that went to their ankles and showed very little skin, then by the 1920's hemlines were at the knee and considered scandalizing. Now, women show butt cheek. I had a mini skirt in the 80's that came to about the tips of my fingers, my father freaked. But now? That skirt is long by today's standards.
Also, as mass media has grown, we are in contact with more information.. bad information. Do you really think there's more violence now than there was 30 years ago? I don't. I think we just hear about it more. I seriously doubt that there's any more violence or depravity than there used to be, but until CNN came along, we only had national/world news on once a day for a half hour. They didn't have time to cover everything so they only covered what was the biggest. Do you really think we'd have heard about the guy who left his 2 year old in a car while at work 30 years ago? Probably not.
However (there's a point to all this, I swear!), people start getting all "OMG!" about it all and think we're going to he** in a hand basket and we'd better mend our ways. Because when they were kids there wasn't so much violent games (really? Well, there wasn't really that many computer games at the level of graphic realism, okay, PacMan.... not very visually jaw dropping. But those ghosts did kill and get killed!), no violent movies (has anyone seen old Disney movies?), and violent TV shows (I seem to remember lots of shooting going on in just about every TV show and the Duke boys on the Dukes of Hazard were habitual law breakers, but they were the heroes... some role models).
So as a reaction to this, they start getting very heavy handed in trying to control what children are exposed to.... forgetting that things were always this 'violent' and that they know better how to raise everyone else's children (I will always say, raise your kid how you want, but
I choose what mine get exposed to)
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:13 pm
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