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Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:31 am
by Big Grim
With what I assume is the first half of this show having recently hit Netflix in the UK, I gave it a watch.

Binged through it in two days. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Feels quite fresh and new take. Love the new characters, love what they've done with Megatron. Weird hearing the odd snip of the VAs Scots brogue come through. Rather like Tuduck's Prime. Human characters are all pretty good up to excellent. Bumblebee is okay, glad they let him have a voice. Relationships between Bots is interesting with Bumblebee & Dead End being friends/Brothers. Skywarp and Frenzy being female took me by surprise, but I dug it. Especially Frenzy's punky hair-shaped head.

Animation feels solid and I am onboard with the character designs. Dig that Dot is a vet with a prosthetic leg. Gives off good Momma Bear vibes while also being a pretty kickass friend of Megs. I LOVE the music.

All in all an utterly entertaining and charming show built somewhat on G1 (with bits pulled from G1 across its own multiverse of origins and whatnot.) but being allowed to breathe and evolve into its own thing. Kinda want that Grimlock...

~ Grim

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:23 am
by Sabrblade
Big Grim wrote:With what I assume is the first half of this show having recently hit Netflix in the UK,
How many episodes did Netflix UK put up? Season 1 has 26 eps in total.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:17 am
by snavej
So, in Earthspark, they let kids interact freely with the greatest mass murderer in the galaxy (our Megs). They don't even tell the kids all the things he did. Does anyone think this is a good idea?! :-? :shock: :???:

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:22 am
by Big Grim
Sabrblade wrote:
Big Grim wrote:With what I assume is the first half of this show having recently hit Netflix in the UK,
How many episodes did Netflix UK put up? Season 1 has 26 eps in total.


There are 18 episodes at the moment on UK Netflix, the last being Home Part 2. I guess we have 8 more to come then! Curious!

~ Grim

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:26 am
by Sabrblade
Big Grim wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Big Grim wrote:With what I assume is the first half of this show having recently hit Netflix in the UK,
How many episodes did Netflix UK put up? Season 1 has 26 eps in total.


There are 18 episodes at the moment on UK Netflix, the last being Home Part 2. I guess we have 8 more to come then! Curious!

~ Grim
Then that means they put up the first two parts of the season, but not the third and final part. When it first came to Paramount+, the season was divided into three parts, with Part 1 being the first 10 episodes, Part 2 being the next eight, and Part 3 being the final eight. Though, each two-parter was uploaded as one long video.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:16 pm
by bluecatcinema
snavej wrote:So, in Earthspark, they let kids interact freely with the greatest mass murderer in the galaxy (our Megs). They don't even tell the kids all the things he did. Does anyone think this is a good idea?! :-? :shock: :???:


No-one is denying Megatron used to be a bad guy, but it's been made clear that he changed for the better years ago. Besides, the fact that he's friends with their mother no doubt goes a long way toward them feeling comfortable around him.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 am
by snavej
Personally, I wouldn't want my kids hanging around with some giant robot dude with a fusion cannon. He might be a pu55ycat in temperament but it's still a HUGE risk. All it takes is one wrong move and a kid dies. The relevant term is 'criminal negligence'! I reckon that this sets a very bad example. I mean, the writers are careful to be politically correct with all the right pronouns and yet they allow ridiculously huge breaches of health and safety. Talk about double standards! Pronouns won't save anyone from a Transformer rampage.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:57 am
by Big Grim
Sabrblade wrote:Then that means they put up the first two parts of the season, but not the third and final part. When it first came to Paramount+, the season was divided into three parts, with Part 1 being the first 10 episodes, Part 2 being the next eight, and Part 3 being the final eight. Though, each two-parter was uploaded as one long video.

Thank you for the info, Duder! I'll keep an eye out for the final third. :)

~ Grim

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:36 am
by Sabrblade
snavej wrote:Personally, I wouldn't want my kids hanging around with some giant robot dude with a fusion cannon. He might be a pu55ycat in temperament but it's still a HUGE risk. All it takes is one wrong move and a kid dies. The relevant term is 'criminal negligence'! I reckon that this sets a very bad example. I mean, the writers are careful to be politically correct with all the right pronouns and yet they allow ridiculously huge breaches of health and safety. Talk about double standards! Pronouns won't save anyone from a Transformer rampage.
They also allow
  • one child to walk around carrying her own pair of swords,
  • another child to turn into a motorcycle (a dangerous vehicle unto itself),
  • another child to disguise herself as a vehicle belonging to the morally-gray government organization that's trying to hunt them down and kill them, which she also uses to sneak into the headquarters of said organization which full of armed guards and weaponry capable of hurting her, and is also permitted to hack into said organization's mainframe multiple times,
  • another child to tinker with machinery that has nearly harmed the other family members several times,
  • and the last child to turn into an initially-rampaging dinosaur after hanging out with an even bigger and more rampaging dinosaur who suffers from PTSD.
This is a dangerous world for everyone, and you're acting like these people hang out with Megatron on a regular basis when he barely ever shares any screentime with them outside of battle scenes.

And if you're going to criticize Dot and Alex as parents, then you're going to have to do the same for the likes of Sparkplug Witwicky and every other series's parental characters who actively let their children not only hang out with a bunch of gun-toting giants but were also brought into the middle of a warzone on a regular basis. Seriously, it's a wonder that Spike didn't get injured more often than just the events of "Autobot Spike". That boy should have been dead several times over, yet he always survived by the superhuman protective power of 1980s children's cartoon standards.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:22 pm
by ZeroWolf
Sabrblade wrote:
snavej wrote:Personally, I wouldn't want my kids hanging around with some giant robot dude with a fusion cannon. He might be a pu55ycat in temperament but it's still a HUGE risk. All it takes is one wrong move and a kid dies. The relevant term is 'criminal negligence'! I reckon that this sets a very bad example. I mean, the writers are careful to be politically correct with all the right pronouns and yet they allow ridiculously huge breaches of health and safety. Talk about double standards! Pronouns won't save anyone from a Transformer rampage.
They also allow
  • one child to walk around carrying her own pair of swords,
  • another child to turn into a motorcycle (a dangerous vehicle unto itself),
  • another child to disguise herself as a vehicle belonging to the morally-gray government organization that's trying to hunt them down and kill them, which she also uses to sneak into the headquarters of said organization which full of armed guards and weaponry capable of hurting her, and is also permitted to hack into said organization's mainframe multiple times,
  • another child to tinker with machinery that has nearly harmed the other family members several times,
  • and the last child to turn into an initially-rampaging dinosaur after hanging out with an even bigger and more rampaging dinosaur who suffers from PTSD.
This is a dangerous world for everyone, and you're acting like these people hang out with Megatron on a regular basis when he barely ever shares any screentime with them outside of battle scenes.

And if you're going to criticize Dot and Alex as parents, then you're going to have to do the same for the likes of Sparkplug Witwicky and every other series's parental characters who actively let their children not only hang out with a bunch of gun-toting giants but were also brought into the middle of a warzone on a regular basis. Seriously, it's a wonder that Spike didn't get injured more often than just the events of "Autobot Spike". That boy should have been dead several times over, yet he always survived by the superhuman protective power of 1980s children's cartoon standards.

Let's not forget the teachers who allowed the kids of B.O.T to make that creation :-D

Seriously though, kids shows always allow the children to get away with a lot as it's a way for the children watching to have some fun. It's not just cartoons who do this if you want to pull on that thread.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:54 am
by snavej
'...should have been dead several times over...'

The ol' plot armour is virtually impenetrable! At least the new comic book series has more realism and mangled corpses.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:49 am
by Sabrblade
snavej wrote:'...should have been dead several times over...'

The ol' plot armour is virtually impenetrable!
And thus, you have nothing to worry about with the Malto kids.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:14 am
by snavej
Sabrblade wrote:
snavej wrote:'...should have been dead several times over...'

The ol' plot armour is virtually impenetrable!
And thus, you have nothing to worry about with the Malto kids.


Time will tell. :POPCORN: I mainly worry about real people who try to imitate them in some way.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:34 am
by Sabrblade
snavej wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
snavej wrote:'...should have been dead several times over...'

The ol' plot armour is virtually impenetrable!
And thus, you have nothing to worry about with the Malto kids.


Time will tell. :POPCORN: I mainly worry about real people who try to imitate them in some way.
Right, because It's so easy to imitate hanging out with giant robots.

Spike, Carly, Chip, Daniel, Koji, Rad, Carlos, Alexis, Billy, Fred, Kicker, Coby, Bud, Lori, Sam, Mikaela, Sari, Jack, Miko, Raf, Cody, Russell, and more have all been just as guilty of hanging out with giant robots. So if you're going to harp on the kids of this show, you have to do the same for every single one of the characters I just listed off. It's only fair.

Especially for Kicker. That kid actually threw himself into battle and fought against Decepticons on his own. He even once went up against Galvatron solo. That's way more dangerous than anything else that the others have done.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:31 am
by snavej
All of those are very problematic. We don't have any actual Cybertronian Transformers but we do have plenty of large vehicles that can kill, accidentally or deliberately.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:19 am
by Sabrblade
snavej wrote:All of those are very problematic. We don't have any actual Cybertronian Transformers but we do have plenty of large vehicles that can kill, accidentally or deliberately.
In that case, you must therefore consider ALL of Transformers to be problematic and must raise a formal protest to Hasbro for making a product that is such a bad influence upon our children.

The only solution is to remove humanity from the Transformers fiction entirely, setting the stories completely apart from human civilization to the point that the Transformers are no longer in disguise from humankind, thus rendering one of the entire points of the brand completely pointless.

And once you have succeeded, you must then move on to protest G.I. Joe for promoting warfare and weaponry usage to children, and then must protest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for promoting martial arts and weaponry violence to children, and then protest Power Rangers for also promoting martial arts violence and giant robot piloting to children, And then protest DC and Marvel for also promoting violence to children, and protest Star Wars for promoting space warfare and sword-based violence to children, and protest Nintendo and every other video game company for also promoting violence to children.

You must never cease in your one-man crusade to completely rid the Earth of any and all harmful media for the sake of our children, to the point that every single channel must become as sanitary and safe as PBS Kids. Every form of children's entertainment must be as wholesome as Sesame Street, and never have even a shred of any potentially violent element whatsoever.

So, go forth, snavej. Go and finally bring peace to this war-torn, dreadful, violent world that we all live in, and bring an end to this destructive era that currently plagues upon our youth, so that you may usher in a brighter and safer future for us all. :PEACE: :PEACE: :PEACE:

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:00 pm
by snavej
All I'm saying is that the parents should make an effort to remove their children from a highly dangerous situation. Perhaps they could relocate to another part of the country or even another country. Look what happened in Ukraine in 2022. There was a mass movement of families away from the fighting. When parents stupidly allow their children to stay in harm's way, that's very bad writing. Sure, many Transformers are friendly but they're not infallible and there are Decepticons popping up all over the place, causing havoc.

I agree that things like GI Joe, TMNT, Power Rangers Star Wars, most superhero stories, etc. should be banned because they're rubbish and also a small number of people get hurt copying the stunts therein. Remember the kids thinking they were Superman and jumping off buildings?!

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:25 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Don't know how we got here, but please return to the topic.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:33 pm
by Sabrblade
Five months late to this, but Keyan Carlile made a really in-depth review of the three-part first season of EarthSpark, covering the good, the mixed, and the bad of each third of the season.


Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:03 am
by PerfectVision
-G.H.O.S.T is useless.

-The terrans aren't strong in characterization and effectiveness more or less(Mo herself can use the shield?Bizarre like some other things).

-The script suggests verbaly they are immigrants but it's practically wrong:they are underground mutants(TMNT,they reuse the 2012 aesthetic) or angels like Metatron and the morning Star-scream,Lucifer (the boundary between them,aliens and demons is thin).

-This perspective changes the meaning of Meridian:he wants to become a god.That explains the stupid and not credible modification on his body rather than an exterior one with a cockpit.

-A lack of accessibility?Forever?

Season One Complete on DVD 2 Volumes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:13 am
by o.supreme
Seemingly, without fanfare, the remaining 16 episodes of S1 were released on DVD; at least in North America (R1) about a month ago. Significantly, this is the first Transformers TV series to have a complete (as of this time) release on physical media since Prime a decade ago. I've seen Vol 1 in store at Walmart previously, haven't seen V2 in person yet, but links to purchase on Amazon are below if interested.


Volume 2 (episodes 11-16)
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Earthspark-Season-Episodes-11-26/dp/B0CNBM6D4J/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Volume 1 (episodes 1-10)
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-EarthSpark-Season-Episodes-1-10/dp/B0BTPZKL5K/ref=pd_bxgy_d_sccl_1/146-5390240-0009357?pd_rd_w=nSopw&content-id=amzn1.sym.2b132e63-5dcd-4ba1-be9f-9e044543d59f&pf_rd_p=2b132e63-5dcd-4ba1-be9f-9e044543d59f&pf_rd_r=K3MB5K7EQHAWY6SD2W16&pd_rd_wg=M0Nkg&pd_rd_r=1bafb251-f13f-4ce7-be7f-734a05b2a673&pd_rd_i=B0BTPZKL5K&psc=1

Probably because this series is produced by Paramount/Nickelodeon it was much easier to get out on physical media. I'm not sure if Hasbro and Shout!Factory still have a contract for the other series they've released on DVD many years ago (most of which are on streaming in one form or another), but it would be nice if Hasbro continued to partner wither with Paramount, or another distributor to get their remaining missing/incomplete series on physical media at some point.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:10 pm
by bluecatcinema
The official Transformers YouTube channel has posted a brief trailer for the second season:

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:25 pm
by Sabrblade
How much we wanna bet that this is the same promo that will be played during the upcoming theatrical presentation of the G1 cartoon pilot three-parter?

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:58 am
by Sabrblade
Season 2 guest voice cast announced:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/video/2024/05/13/video-paramountplus-reveals-the-official-trailer-and-key-art-for-season-two-of-transformers-earthspark-premiering-friday-june-7-920414/20240513cbs02/

Joining TRANSFORMERS: EARTHSPARK this season are guest stars "Weird Al" Yankovic as Cosmos, Zelda Williams (The Legend of Korra) as Spitfire, Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist Flea as Aftermath and Richard Ayoade (The IT Crowd) as Fairmaestro.

Re: Transformers Earthspark Show Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:04 pm
by bluecatcinema
Sabrblade wrote:Season 2 guest voice cast announced:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/video/2024/05/13/video-paramountplus-reveals-the-official-trailer-and-key-art-for-season-two-of-transformers-earthspark-premiering-friday-june-7-920414/20240513cbs02/

Joining TRANSFORMERS: EARTHSPARK this season are guest stars "Weird Al" Yankovic as Cosmos, Zelda Williams (The Legend of Korra) as Spitfire, Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist Flea as Aftermath and Richard Ayoade (The IT Crowd) as Fairmaestro.


Nice to hear Weird Al will be returning to the franchise once again.