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Insurgent wrote:But we've seen Roller in present day IDW. Back in the -ation series, he was shown to be based on his toy form. And also, during the war, he was lsited above Wheelie as being suggested for missions in Spotlight Wheelie.

Insurgent wrote:Personally, I think Roller took that massive bit of damage and gets rebuilt into his present day form/Prime's trailer. Based on Roller's alt mode in MTMTE 36, he looks very Prime trailer-ish. Even split open the same way. The damage he sustains badly cripples him mentally, but Prime doesn't want to give up on his old friend and turns him into part of his own alt mode, sort of as a way to care for him long term. Although that raises a question. Did Chromdome shake Roller's hand at the end?
Again, trailer Roller and robot Roller are two different guys, we'll likely find out what happened with robot Roller soon. As for his looks, you'll have to highlight the text to read it.

Insurgent wrote:And a quick reminder, when did we learn about Agent 113? The bullet in the Autobrand sounds familiar, but I can't place it. And I forgot it was someone in the DJD.

Insurgent wrote:I know the lists were a joke. Still happened.


I was not aware this Roller was confirmed different to Prime's Roller. I thought it was a nice little piece of character, to have Prime looking after his crippled friend all these years ( I figured Roller was semi-sentient with massive brain damage, hence the almost 'drone like' quality of him and the mental damage I mentioned he suffered in the attack, with Prime downloading himself into the actual Trailer Combat Deck, which was purpose built to house Roller and is not sentient but is an actual drone).

It was a nice musing. Alas, if Roberts has confirmed though, there goes that theory.


Though that wiki article does point out everyone forget Roller was missing. Which answers my question that Chromdome did NOT shake Roller's hand, so Roller would retain all those memories.


Perhaps Roller became Tarn because of the betrayal that his super outlier friends all abandoned him and forgot about him? Thus explaining his.... over eagerness to kill Autobots?


I've been out of the game too long, I need to re-read alot of the MTMTE stuff and have a refresher.

Me wrote:When looking for any kind of proof to maybe support the Tarn is agent 113 thing, I did come across something fairly interesting. You see the whole thing that I went back and forth between Tarn and Vos being Agent 113 was based on the way the messages are delivered. It had to be any one of those, because the rest had no projectile weapons.
I'm wrong, there is a third, Helex!
Most of the time we see Helex use his large primary arms to crush and smash, but in the flash back story parts on the second Lost Light, we see one panel of him ripping Pipes apart (exactly the same way Overlord did with Guzzle in LOTW), while he's doing that, his holds two pistols in his smaller arms and shoots at other Autobots. And unlike most of the gun fire we see, they're not rays or lasers, but projectiles.
On top of that his face is blackened out, in the scenes he partakes in violence in, something that doesn't happen with any other DJD member. It's something I notice early on with him, while every one is shown with joy on their face while murdering, in every issue they're in, you can barely make out his face when he's in battle, mostly because it's either not shown, or he's too far away for there to be detail in his face you could see, or like in this case shadows. On top of that when we do see his face, he either looks concerned or angry.

Not saying that it's him, but it would be something Roberts would pull of.