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Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:06 am**

Welcome to the latest episode of the Seibertron.com Twincast / Podcast! This episode features your host ScottyP with Counterpunch, xRotorstormx, Megatronus, and special guests Mr. Starscream and that wonder from down under, Burn. Listen in as we discuss the latest news, toys, and more.

Episode #166 "Toy Fair 2017" is available directly and in our RSS Feed, and should appear on iTunes and Stitcher Radio within 24 to 48 hours of when you see this news post.

Seibertron was at Toy Fair to bring the latest and greatest images to your screen. Check out Seibertron's show room photography and official images of the show's awesome reveals HERE.

We start Toy Fair talk with the show stopping Trypticon. Starscream and Megatronus, who were on site at Hasbro's show space in New York, provide some first hand opinions of the monstrous kaiju on display - from the included Full-Tilt deluxe figure & Titan Master Necro to Tryp's Titan Master-munching gimmick. Is the rest of the crew sold?

Hungry Hungry Trypticon

We check out the contents of the upcoming Chaos on Velocitron and Siege on Cybertron box sets, featuring diecast Rodimus and Thunderwing Titan Masters, respectively. Likely modeled after the recent Combiner Wars sets, will the same concept work for Titans Return? Looking at Quickswitch, Nautica, Tidal Wave, and the other individual figures: which hit the right stride, and which are simply forgettable?

Nope.

There were plenty of other notable Transformers figure reveals besides Titan Trypticon: a new Windblade figure is coming down the pipe, Topspin is getting his Twintwist, and the remaining Decepticon phase sixers and triple changers have finally (if expectedly) been revealed. Are these reasons to celebrate, or is the Twincast crew focused on other priorities?

The boys are back in town.

Taking a brief break from toy reveals, the crew discusses the Power of the Primes vote, and the next Prime of Cybertron: Optimus Primal. That's right, the fans have spoken, and the famed Beast Wars leader, representing 'Chaos' will lead. Is the crew psyched, or can whispers of Deathsaurus be heard in the distance?

With a rebel yell...

Forged to Fight, the upcoming mobile fighting game by Kabam, creators of the ever-popular Marvel Contest of Champions, was also on our minds this weekend. A new trailer is out, and the good folks at Kabam held a special preview event over Toy Fair weekend to showcase the gameplay. Are we in for another mobile sensation, a la Earth Wars?

Fight!

Back to toys: Toy Fair 2017 featured some extremely exciting reveals for Transformers: The Last Knight. While Movie Masterpiece figures and a handful of new voyager toys are nice, there's one character in particular that seems to be on everyone's mind. All. Hail. Megatron.

4th time's the charm!

Time for some Toy Fair superlatives. The Twincast crew embarks on a discussion of favorite reveals, disappointments, biggest surprises, and what we were surprised not to see at the show. There are some interesting selections, so listen in to find out what we thought of Toy Fair overall.

Because Bumblebee.

Bragging Rights is here. What has everyone gotten since their last recording?

Until next time!

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Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:13 pm**

Ah man, this got posted AFTER my long drive out to the prison I teach at (only Tuesday nights). Oh well, something to listen to next week :-)

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:30 pm**

Just some notes as I am listening:

- the clones will all be in boxsets, none will be released as singles at retail
- the boxsets are $100 USD
- Tidal wave cant have a helmet, he's a voyager, they dont have helmets. So it cant be a scourge head under a helmet and thus its a new head.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:22 pm**

william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more. :WHISTLE:

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:28 pm**

Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more.

Note: Burn is much more cuddly in person. :-$

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:31 pm**

megatronus wrote:
Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more.

Note: Burn is much more cuddly in person.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:43 pm**

Burn wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more.

Note: Burn is much more cuddly in person.

I don't think there's a right way to answer that.

No?

;)^

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:52 pm**

Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more.

Yup, but its encouraged to interact here with the cast right?

Anyways, I really liked when Scotty scoffed at people calling out "retool" right away before looking into things. Its one of my biggest pet peeves and I am glad to know I am not the only one.

Glad to know you guys caught that Quickswitch will have a different helmet, I hope Ryan is happy. Also, like Scotty, I too am surprised we are getting Quickswitch as the redco and not the more obvious Greatshot, which I would have preffered since that is exactly what the G1 toy was.

Cant believe rotorstorm missed a "Bot Shots part deux" joke.

I dont see the problem with the kid oriented combiners. We just got a ton of combiners geared for older kids, some being the same combiners even. So now we have a budget version. And plus, for all those who want to relive the G1 combienrs with simple transformations and lack of articulation, well you get your wish.

However I totaly get and agree with Scotty's point of it being more interesting to get the new animalistic decepticons rather than getting simplified combiners.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:38 pm**

Heh. Megatronus and Starscream on Nautica made me chuckle to myself in the car. Such passion.

BURN! BURN IS IN THIS! MY LOVE MY DARLING MY BULLY!

I'm going to keep defending my Legends Windblade, and I have no real reason to do so, other than I really like her. And the face deco/headsculpt is amazing.

But! the new TM headsculpt is very very attractive indeed, and it might be worth considering the purchase:

..if it looked closer to the render. It's close, but not quite the same.

(Hey, real work?! OI.)

Overlord accessories:

Note on Dragonstorm, that was apparently missed previously: Autobot, protector, etc.
transformers-the-last-knight-toys-discussion-thread-t107247s825.php#p1861965

I will endorse Boaty McBoatface in news cycles. Promised.

GODDAMMIT the card made it! IT MADE IT!
YESSSSSSS BURN YESSSS.

(I sense ScottyP's next Special Be Cool Edition of a toy.)
Can I see joevill here..? :-?

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:53 pm**

Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just some notes as I am listening:

There'll be more.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't. William has notes, Jeelze has lists. It all works out.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:50 pm**

Doesn't do anything my a....

HA! Hey fellers and ladytron, thanks for the wiping shout out.

My favorite Lil Pony is Ari Pie.

#MermaidBottoms

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:01 pm**

Cobotron wrote:Doesn't do anything my a....

Oh you know I was just joking Princess!

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:08 pm**

Burn wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Doesn't do anything my a....

Oh you know I was just joking Princess!

Oh of course, sweet Prince.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:09 am**

Cobotron wrote:Doesn't do anything my a....

HA! Hey fellers and ladytron, thanks for the wiping shout out.

My favorite Lil Pony is Ari Pie.
#MermaidBottoms

I'm more of an Ari-cake

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 am**

megatronus wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Doesn't do anything my a....

HA! Hey fellers and ladytron, thanks for the wiping shout out.

My favorite Lil Pony is Ari Pie.
#MermaidBottoms

I'm more of an Ari-cake

The photo is amazing.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:01 am**

Umm.....that is not Greatshot's head on Quickswitch.
Greatshot has a rounded head with horns on the side.
Leader Quickswitch has a blocky head and a forehead crest, as he should.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:07 am**

Listening through now.

Man, there are some seriously gorgeous new figures incoming.

The second one of you mentioned sand, I expected the Anakin whining. You did not disappoint.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:32 pm**

To "Mrs. I don't give a Hoot" in the podcast, perhaps you should have a care....

It's clear when looking at the 3 most recent and upcoming TR Leader class figures what inspired them! Sixshot, Overlord and Black Shadow all the PHASE SIXER title in common!

So if it weren't for IDW's touch on these characters, you probably wouldn't be seeing TR Overlord (or the others) in the first place. You'd think that most of the people in this podcast would have more of an understanding of how big an impact IDW has on the Generations line. Lord knows Bay doesn't really care.

No one's forcing you to read the comics but coming off as a G1 entitled jerk isn't becoming either. So know when to give credit where it's due.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 pm**

YoungPrime wrote:To "Mrs. I don't give a Hoot" in the podcast, perhaps you should have a care....

It's clear when looking at the 3 most recent and upcoming TR Leader class figures what inspired them! Sixshot, Overlord and Black Shadow all the PHASE SIXER title in common!

So if it weren't for IDW's touch on these characters, you probably wouldn't be seeing TR Overlord (or the others) in the first place. You'd think that most of the people in this podcast would have more of an understanding of how big an impact IDW has on the Generations line. Lord knows Bay doesn't really care.

No one's forcing you to read the comics but coming off as a G1 entitled jerk isn't becoming either. So know when to give credit where it's due.

Personal attacks are uncalled for.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:21 pm**

megatronus wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:To "Mrs. I don't give a Hoot" in the podcast, perhaps you should have a care....

It's clear when looking at the 3 most recent and upcoming TR Leader class figures what inspired them! Sixshot, Overlord and Black Shadow all the PHASE SIXER title in common!

So if it weren't for IDW's touch on these characters, you probably wouldn't be seeing TR Overlord (or the others) in the first place. You'd think that most of the people in this podcast would have more of an understanding of how big an impact IDW has on the Generations line. Lord knows Bay doesn't really care.

No one's forcing you to read the comics but coming off as a G1 entitled jerk isn't becoming either. So know when to give credit where it's due.

Personal attacks are uncalled for.

Good thing it was a coaching and not a personal attack.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:24 pm**

YoungPrime wrote:
megatronus wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:To "Mrs. I don't give a Hoot" in the podcast, perhaps you should have a care....

It's clear when looking at the 3 most recent and upcoming TR Leader class figures what inspired them! Sixshot, Overlord and Black Shadow all the PHASE SIXER title in common!

So if it weren't for IDW's touch on these characters, you probably wouldn't be seeing TR Overlord (or the others) in the first place. You'd think that most of the people in this podcast would have more of an understanding of how big an impact IDW has on the Generations line. Lord knows Bay doesn't really care.

No one's forcing you to read the comics but coming off as a G1 entitled jerk isn't becoming either. So know when to give credit where it's due.

Personal attacks are uncalled for.

Good thing it was a coaching and not a personal attack.

Doesnt matter, please don't call people a jerk.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:08 am**

I think Claire made a perfectly valid point. If you don't care about the comics, you don't care if some of these guys look more like IDW than G1. She's a big G1 fan, so she's glad that they look more G1. There's several of us on the podcast that love the comics(though no one more than Scotty I think :-D

) and our voices tend to be loudest when it comes to wanting IDW inspired representations of the characters. Yes, we're seeing the "Phase Sixers" as a result of them being used and very popular in the comics. That still doesn't mean that one needs to "give a hoot" about the comics. While you claim you were coaching, it wasn't he best use of constructive criticism.

On another note, I don't get the Seaspray hate! He looks awesome! Straight out of the G1 cartoon. Hell, you could cut off his feet, put them on a human figure and totally reenact that episode where he falls for the mermaid girl. I can't wait for that little guy.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:12 am**

Also, while not a fan of the live action movies at all nor of the toys, that leader Megatron alt mode is damn impressive. Almost want to get it just for the alt mode. I am annoyed that the Leader has straight wings and the voyager has curved wing tips. I don't really see why they needed the change. Maybe it has to do with the transformation.

I enjoyed hearing from Burn and Paul. Don't get to hear you guys on much, so it's always a treat. Perhaps one day, schedules will work out where we're on a show together. I only had to be on the show for a year and a half before Razorclaw and I ended up being in the same episode. :-D

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:07 am**

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:On another note, I don't get the Seaspray hate! He looks awesome! Straight out of the G1 cartoon. Hell, you could cut off his feet, put them on a human figure and totally reenact that episode where he falls for the mermaid girl. I can't wait for that little guy.

Same - Sea Spray looks great to me.

Also, mermaid!

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:08 am**

megatronus wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:On another note, I don't get the Seaspray hate! He looks awesome! Straight out of the G1 cartoon. Hell, you could cut off his feet, put them on a human figure and totally reenact that episode where he falls for the mermaid girl. I can't wait for that little guy.

Same - Sea Spray looks great to me.

Also, mermaid!

Godsdammit. I didn't even think of the mermaid implications. :lol:

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