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-Kanrabat- wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

ausbot wrote:I always wanted the prototype titanium arcee as well.

Really?? Is there a particular reason why? It seems like it's a pretty terrible execution, especially since we have other G1esque versions available now.

Oh dear God... This look absolutely horrible!

But like for the planned G1 toy, I want it. There's a charm to her bizarre proportions. Like some sort of weird gremlin.

"Mum says it's my turn on the Xbox."

The topic of this thread initially made me laugh because there are hardly more than five Arcee figures to begin with, certainly not ones worth talking about. That said:

Titan's Return Arcee - I stand with this figure's supporters/defenders. This used to be my least favorite Arcee because she wasn't "traditional G1"-looking enough. I also don't generally favor repaints, I don't care much for Headmasters as a concept, and I don't think the Titan's Return deluxe-class figures on the whole were very good. But over time, I have come to really appreciate this figure and now it has actually become my favorite Arcee. In spite of being a repaint/retool of Blurr, he is already a fairly slender/lithe character so this sculpt actually already looks vaguely feminine without looking like an overtly curvy human woman wearing armor. I feel like if there has to be gendered Transformers (which still doesn't make a ton of sense, other than for variety reasons), this is a good stab at what a "female" robot would or should look like.

Generations Arcee - I like a lot of things about this one. Particularly that she is one of the few Arcees that isn't just a complete shell-former. I like that her robot form at least somewhat contributes to her alt mode and the rest still transforms enough to feel satisfying. I don't really love her head sculpt and her belly-section creeps me the hell out (absolutely no reason for a robot to an abdomen that human-looking), but her back kibble is passable. Her alt-mode is kind of a mess but also looks kind of cool. I feel pretty 50/50 on that one.

Earthrise Arcee - Yikes. Whoever designed this should be ashamed. I fully admit that she is one of the best looking Arcees in robot-mode, but if I wanted a statue of Arcee's robot mode I would just get one. As a Transformer, this figure is abysmal. Exactly 0% of her robot form contributes to her alt mode. She is a robot with a car for a backpack, or a car with a robot crammed up underneath it. The alt-mode itself is pretty awful too. Just a bunch of barely-sculpted matte-pink plastic that looks like a McDonalds toy. You'd think, being a convertible, they'd sculpt out the cockpit in a way that looks like somebody could actually sit in it. But nope, just seat backs with no seats, barely a dashboard, and no semblance of depth for legs whatsoever. And I have really not liked this trend with the WFC figures, where instead of engineering ways to manage the extra kibble, they simply have you take half of it off and pretend like that's some sort of "play feature" (eg. a "shield" or "hoverboard"). It's lazy as hell and doesn't fool anyone. Yes she looks better with half of her backpack removed, but you really, really shouldn't have to do that. It's just one more example of how cheap Hasbro has gotten with their products.

Cyberverse Arcee - This figure is barely better than the Earthrise one. The alt-mode at least looks a little better but the whole thing still just sits on her back, even more egregiously than the others. At least her arms become the sides of the car. That's barely anything but it's something. I also don't like the lighter-pink color in place of the white parts. Ends up being way too much pink with nothing to break it up. All-in-all this figure isn't really any better than Earthrise but doesn't even have the classic G1-asthetic to save it.

Animated Arcee - I haven't owned this figure in a long time but I remember liking it well enough. I didn't really like the gray fins but they were removeable and not necessary for either mode. I think this is one of the better Arcee figure if you don't mind the "Animated" aesthetic.

Energon Arcee - Not much to this one but I always liked it a lot. Just a fun, simple little Arcee that, much like Titan's Return Arcee, doesn't rely to heavily on trying to look overly feminine.

Masterpiece Arcee - I unfortunately haven't gotten my hands on this one yet but I like the pictures and the transformation videos I've watched seem cool. It seems like the most G1-accurate figure in both modes and has a decent transformation. I might feel differently if I actually owned it though.


So Titan's Return wins all around for me. Earthrise is a good display piece and absolutely nothing else.

typh0id wrote:The topic of this thread initially made me laugh because there are hardly more than five Arcee figures to begin with, certainly not ones worth talking about.

If you restrict yourself to the Geewun Arcees, maybe.
But Prime got 4 molds, and Bayverse got 4 molds as well. Not counting repaints, that's 8 more.

Add the bizarre Binaltech, Q, and even the Transmetal Blackarachnia repaint. There is a lot.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
If you restrict yourself to the Geewun Arcees, maybe.
But Prime got 4 molds, and Bayverse got 4 molds as well. Not counting repaints, that's 8 more.

Add the bizarre Binaltech, Q, and even the Transmetal Blackarachnia repaint. There is a lot.

Fair enough.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

typh0id wrote:The topic of this thread initially made me laugh because there are hardly more than five Arcee figures to begin with, certainly not ones worth talking about.

If you restrict yourself to the Geewun Arcees, maybe.
But Prime got 4 molds, and Bayverse got 4 molds as well. Not counting repaints, that's 8 more.

Add the bizarre Binaltech, Q, and even the Transmetal Blackarachnia repaint. There is a lot.

She got 2 tiny turbo changers as well, the cyberverse one is super cute

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ges/44813/

Also, she has 5 molds in the original Bayverse lines:
1 different deluxe mold for the first 3 films
1 legends mold fir rotf
1 human alliance mold

william-james88 wrote:She got 2 tiny turbo changers as well, the cyberverse one is super cute

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ges/44813/

I've never seen that one before. Adorable!

I want to echo some of the sentiments about T30 and TR Arcee.

I originally thought T30 Arcee was super great - lots of weapons, a transformation that uses some of the body to form car parts, and the very first G1 style Arcee toy ever. But when I compare the body look of the robot mode to the body look of the robot mode of ER Arcee, it's just tooooo creepy. I read a comment on twitter that it looks like an Arcee designed by someone who was WAY too thirty for Arcee. Of the five listed by the author, I would have put Animated Arcee #1.

As for TR Arcee - I really like it. It has all of the hallmarks of Arcee, it has a headmaster (and I am very partial to headmasters, and I still really liked the Rebirth cartoon as a kid and I still like it now, strangely enough) and it is a full blown transformation because they didn't feel it necessary to be slavish to the end result since it was a retool of Blurr. I am currently waffling between TR Arcee and ER Arcee on my shelf to match the SS86 Hot Rod etc. I really dislike ER Arcee as a transforming toy, but as a robot mode, it looks kind of nice too, scale wise.

I definitely agree ER Arcee does not deserve to be on the list at all. The robot mode finally looks kind of normal, and kind of like the character model, but that transformation is a crying shame.

Okeno wrote:I definitely agree ER Arcee does not deserve to be on the list at all. The robot mode finally looks kind of normal, and kind of like the character model, but that transformation is a crying shame.

(With a non-transforming backpack piece and legs cover.)

I'd have been more on ER Arcee's side if she was painted well. But they cheaped out on that too. Unpainted face, half painted waist, half painted collar, no grey on the vehicle mode. Not even headlights or anything.

I do not understand why they chopped off the very back of the vehicle too since it's just a shell. And the panels don't quite go all the way in on mine (like the picture shows above) which also annoys me.

Like a lot of recent figures ER Arcee makes me miss the takara repaints. It wouldn't have saved the mold, but it would have made it way more acceptable.

[quote="Gauntlet101010"] Not even headlights or anything.

Giggity

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... headlights

Okeno wrote:I am currently waffling between TR Arcee and ER Arcee on my shelf to match the SS86 Hot Rod etc. I really dislike ER Arcee as a transforming toy, but as a robot mode, it looks kind of nice too, scale wise.

I definitely think Arcee looks better with SS86 Hot Rod for G1 accuracy, but I like TR Arcee with pretty much any of the others where that isn't as much of a concern.

-Kanrabat- wrote:


(With a non-transforming backpack piece and legs cover.)

I've been tempted to get this set but I hate the thought of putting more money into a figure that Hasbro put no effort into.

typh0id wrote:I've been tempted to get this set but I hate the thought of putting more money into a figure that Hasbro put no effort into.

I don't see it this way. I just took a mediocre toy, and changed into something fun and cool looking. I'm pleased with the results so for me it's not a waste.

What you do with your toys is up to you, of course.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
I don't see it this way. I just took a mediocre toy, and changed into something fun and cool looking. I'm pleased with the results so for me it's not a waste.

What you do with your toys is up to you, of course.

I absolutely understand that. And I don't universally disagree with that sentiment. I think the addon kit for CW Optimus is utterly brilliant and completely worthwhile. As were kits like City Commander and Protector.

I didn't really word my previous response well. What I meant was I don't think the figure is worth paying the extra money to upgrade. Even with the upgrade parts, she's still a lousy Transformer. Even moreso, in fact because you are adding extra parts that can't transform with her (at least the back part, not sure about the legs addons). As I said in my initial analysis, she is only good as a statue and if I wanted an Arcee statue, there are actual ones that look better than the ER figure, even with the upgrade. I like Transformers both for how they look and also how they Transform. Fall too flat on either of those things and you have a very disappointing toy.

TFfan1 wrote:Personally, I have to go with Titans Return Arcee as number 1. My favorite overall design, not too skinny or just "lady robot with backpack, and the Daniel Headmaster is just one of those fun things I never expected we'd get.

Same. It does probably the most integrating the robot and car modes together.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

TFfan1 wrote:Personally, I have to go with Titans Return Arcee as number 1. My favorite overall design, not too skinny or just "lady robot with backpack, and the Daniel Headmaster is just one of those fun things I never expected we'd get.

Same. It does probably the most integrating the robot and car modes together.

For this critera, I personally think Animated is the best. At least she's not "Blurr in drag".

Because let's be honest. If having the most vehicle integration is the only winning factor, he would be the winner.


I'm glad to have him. I still call him Arcee, but he's R63 Arcee.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

TFfan1 wrote:Personally, I have to go with Titans Return Arcee as number 1. My favorite overall design, not too skinny or just "lady robot with backpack, and the Daniel Headmaster is just one of those fun things I never expected we'd get.

Same. It does probably the most integrating the robot and car modes together.

For this critera, I personally think Animated is the best. At least she's not "Blurr in drag".

Because let's be honest. If having the most vehicle integration is the only winning factor, he would be the winner.


I'm glad to have him. I still call him Arcee, but he's R63 Arcee.

Now now, no need to misgender her just because she doesn't match your expectations for how Arcee should look.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Now now, no need to misgender her just because she doesn't match your expectations for how Arcee should look.

"IT'S MA'AM!"

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Now now, no need to misgender her just because she doesn't match your expectations for how Arcee should look.

"IT'S MA'AM!"

No.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

No.

Wait... You are actually serious.
Oh dear...

If you want a debate, please leave it on Twitter.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

TFfan1 wrote:Personally, I have to go with Titans Return Arcee as number 1. My favorite overall design, not too skinny or just "lady robot with backpack, and the Daniel Headmaster is just one of those fun things I never expected we'd get.

Same. It does probably the most integrating the robot and car modes together.

For this critera, I personally think Animated is the best. At least she's not "Blurr in drag".

Because let's be honest. If having the most vehicle integration is the only winning factor, he would be the winner.


I'm glad to have him. I still call him Arcee, but he's R63 Arcee.

It's a pity they didn't make an actual dedicated Arcee mold for Binaltech. It would have been interesting to see, and also taking a completely male mold, painting it pink and not even having the good grace to give it a new head is naff and lazy. Perhaps they could have made her an Alfa Romeo Spider of some form- both because Alfa Romeos are lovely cars and also as a subtle hint to the old BotCon figure (because spider...I'll get my coat...).

Evil Eye wrote:It's a pity they didn't make an actual dedicated Arcee mold for Binaltech. It would have been interesting to see, and also taking a completely male mold, painting it pink and not even having the good grace to give it a new head is naff and lazy. Perhaps they could have made her an Alfa Romeo Spider of some form- both because Alfa Romeos are lovely cars and also as a subtle hint to the old BotCon figure (because spider...I'll get my coat...).

It IS a damn lazy repaint. But a funny one.
Too bad Alternators/Binaltech were restricted to current street vehicles because a 1957 Maserati 450S would be a perfect Earth altmode for Arcee.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Evil Eye wrote:It's a pity they didn't make an actual dedicated Arcee mold for Binaltech. It would have been interesting to see, and also taking a completely male mold, painting it pink and not even having the good grace to give it a new head is naff and lazy. Perhaps they could have made her an Alfa Romeo Spider of some form- both because Alfa Romeos are lovely cars and also as a subtle hint to the old BotCon figure (because spider...I'll get my coat...).

It IS a damn lazy repaint. But a funny one.
Too bad Alternators/Binaltech were restricted to current street vehicles because a 1957 Maserati 450S would be a perfect Earth altmode for Arcee.

This is a great idea.

TulioDude wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Evil Eye wrote:It's a pity they didn't make an actual dedicated Arcee mold for Binaltech. It would have been interesting to see, and also taking a completely male mold, painting it pink and not even having the good grace to give it a new head is naff and lazy. Perhaps they could have made her an Alfa Romeo Spider of some form- both because Alfa Romeos are lovely cars and also as a subtle hint to the old BotCon figure (because spider...I'll get my coat...).

It IS a damn lazy repaint. But a funny one.
Too bad Alternators/Binaltech were restricted to current street vehicles because a 1957 Maserati 450S would be a perfect Earth altmode for Arcee.

This is a great idea.

Seconded. That's absolutely perfect.

Evil Eye wrote:

TulioDude wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Evil Eye wrote:It's a pity they didn't make an actual dedicated Arcee mold for Binaltech. It would have been interesting to see, and also taking a completely male mold, painting it pink and not even having the good grace to give it a new head is naff and lazy. Perhaps they could have made her an Alfa Romeo Spider of some form- both because Alfa Romeos are lovely cars and also as a subtle hint to the old BotCon figure (because spider...I'll get my coat...).

It IS a damn lazy repaint. But a funny one.
Too bad Alternators/Binaltech were restricted to current street vehicles because a 1957 Maserati 450S would be a perfect Earth altmode for Arcee.

This is a great idea.

Seconded. That's absolutely perfect.

If they want to reuse the G1 styled Arcee from Bumbleebee,they could use this car as the vehicle mode.

TulioDude wrote:
If they want to reuse the G1 styled Arcee from Bumbleebee,they could use this car as the vehicle mode.

That Arcee not only look feminine enough, but she look like she can transform into something.