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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:17 amI'm sure that Takara Armada Prime will come at some point.Mindmaster wrote:I just want actual Armada updates that aren’t low effort, dammit
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:24 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:28 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:32 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:32 amaronjlove wrote:I know there have been leaks and other stuff, but how exactly is this going to happen? If this trilogy, like the previous, is following a storyline, how does Earthrise end that leads into Beast Wars??? Kingdom can just as easily mean Megatron rules Cybertron as his kingdom, especially if he reformats everyone into Decepticons.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:50 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:56 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:59 amChronologically, the Beast Wars took place on Earth after the Ark and Nemesis crash-landed there and before the Autobots and Decepticons awoke from their slumber. The story of Earthrise is the Ark and Nemesis's journey to Earth through space, culminating in the ships crash-landing there.aronjlove wrote:I know there have been leaks and other stuff, but how exactly is this going to happen? If this trilogy, like the previous, is following a storyline, how does Earthrise end that leads into Beast Wars??? Kingdom can just as easily mean Megatron rules Cybertron as his kingdom, especially if he reformats everyone into Decepticons.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:02 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:12 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:23 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:24 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:25 amSabrblade wrote:Chronologically, the Beast Wars took place on Earth after the Ark and Nemesis crash-landed there and before the Autobots and Decepticons awoke from their slumber. The story of Earthrise is the Ark and Nemesis's journey to Earth through space, culminating in the ships crash-landing there.aronjlove wrote:I know there have been leaks and other stuff, but how exactly is this going to happen? If this trilogy, like the previous, is following a storyline, how does Earthrise end that leads into Beast Wars??? Kingdom can just as easily mean Megatron rules Cybertron as his kingdom, especially if he reformats everyone into Decepticons.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:39 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:46 amPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:47 amaronjlove wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely down for more Beast Wars. Especially with current production quality. I love T30 Waspinator. I just don't see how the fiction is going to jive. But that is more of a problem with the actual accompanying fiction taking so long. We don't even have Hot Rod yet but apparently Rodimus is going back in time? So the fiction will have Optimus passing the Matrix? Even though dead Optimus is "Alternate reality" but he still dies in this reality? Making I'm just thinking too much about it and should just enjoy the toys.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:52 amThey still haven't explained the Earth altmodes yet. What I wrote above is the full extent of what Hasbro has thus far told us about the story of Earthrise, as in, barely anything at all.Tuned Agent wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Chronologically, the Beast Wars took place on Earth after the Ark and Nemesis crash-landed there and before the Autobots and Decepticons awoke from their slumber. The story of Earthrise is the Ark and Nemesis's journey to Earth through space, culminating in the ships crash-landing there.aronjlove wrote:I know there have been leaks and other stuff, but how exactly is this going to happen? If this trilogy, like the previous, is following a storyline, how does Earthrise end that leads into Beast Wars??? Kingdom can just as easily mean Megatron rules Cybertron as his kingdom, especially if he reformats everyone into Decepticons.
But if Earthrise is supposed to be set 4 million years ago, shouldn't the toys still have cybertronian alt modes?
Hot Rod's toy is rumored to be coming in the Studio Series line. As for the Rodimus of this line, I get the feeling that the Beast Wars will be Kingdom's present day setting with Rodimus depicted as a mysterious new Autobot leader from the future whose backstory is not shown in real time but instead as sort of flashback events, which would mean that the story of how Rodimus becomes Autobot Leader will not be the story of Kingdom but rather an offscreen event that happens in the distant future, but before the specific time from whence Rodimus and his Autobots travel back in time to the Beast Wars.aronjlove wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely down for more Beast Wars. Especially with current production quality. I love T30 Waspinator. I just don't see how the fiction is going to jive. But that is more of a problem with the actual accompanying fiction taking so long. We don't even have Hot Rod yet but apparently Rodimus is going back in time? So the fiction will have Optimus passing the Matrix? Even though dead Optimus is "Alternate reality" but he still dies in this reality? Making I'm just thinking too much about it and should just enjoy the toys.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:01 amwilliam-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:What upcoming listings? The post doesn't show any listings, just what somebody said (besides the Cheetor for WFC).
Where does it say "listings of upcoming toys"?
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:05 amHow about a whole thread full of rumors?sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:What upcoming listings? The post doesn't show any listings, just what somebody said (besides the Cheetor for WFC).
Where does it say "listings of upcoming toys"?
Well, if that's the case, this thread is strictly rumor based on a Cheetor. There's gotta be something more than that.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:06 amUgh, this made my head hurt. Might need more coffee, but I think I get what you are saying. Regardless, how it shakes out, it should definitely be interesting. I would love to see more interaction between Beast Wars era characters and G1 folks.Sabrblade wrote:Hot Rod's toy is rumored to be coming in the Studio Series line. As for the Rodimus of this line, I get the feeling that the Beast Wars will be Kingdom's present day setting with Rodimus depicted as a mysterious new Autobot leader from the future whose backstory is not shown in real time but instead as sort of flashback events, which would mean that the story of how Rodimus becomes Autobot Leader will not be the story of Kingdom but rather an offscreen event that happens in the distant future, but before the specific time from whence Rodimus and his Autobots travel back in time to the Beast Wars.aronjlove wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely down for more Beast Wars. Especially with current production quality. I love T30 Waspinator. I just don't see how the fiction is going to jive. But that is more of a problem with the actual accompanying fiction taking so long. We don't even have Hot Rod yet but apparently Rodimus is going back in time? So the fiction will have Optimus passing the Matrix? Even though dead Optimus is "Alternate reality" but he still dies in this reality? Making I'm just thinking too much about it and should just enjoy the toys.
Basically, think of it like if one were to have read Time Wars for the first time back in 1989. Rodimus Prime is presented as the future Autobot Leader who travels back in time to the era of his predecessor, Optimus Prime, but without Rodimus's backstory told in real time because it was expected that the readers were already familiar with Rodimus and his backstory from having either first seen him in TFTM three years ago in 1986 or having first read the many previous comic chapters that also featured Rodimus.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:10 amTo put it more simply, the Beast Wars are the line's present time. Rodimus travels back in time to the Beast Wars from a future time set after the point when he's already the Autobot Leader, with his backstory not being the main focus because it's expected that we already know about it.aronjlove wrote:Ugh, this made my head hurt. Might need more coffee, but I think I get what you are saying. Regardless, how it shakes out, it should definitely be interesting. I would love to see more interaction between Beast Wars era characters and G1 folks.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:11 amSabrblade wrote:How about a whole thread full of rumors? (why a separate thread from that one was made for the very same topic is beyond me)sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:What upcoming listings? The post doesn't show any listings, just what somebody said (besides the Cheetor for WFC).
Where does it say "listings of upcoming toys"?
Well, if that's the case, this thread is strictly rumor based on a Cheetor. There's gotta be something more than that.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:14 amtransformers_va wrote:This is a huge disappointment for a line that was going in such a good direction. If they want to do a BW line, do it separately
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:15 amNote that the first post is mostly just speculation. The actual rumors don't really take off until this post.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:How about a whole thread full of rumors? (why a separate thread from that one was made for the very same topic is beyond me)sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:What upcoming listings? The post doesn't show any listings, just what somebody said (besides the Cheetor for WFC).
Where does it say "listings of upcoming toys"?
Well, if that's the case, this thread is strictly rumor based on a Cheetor. There's gotta be something more than that.
Well. This helps massively.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:40 pmNemesis Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Addendum with the stuff Jtprime missed in his catch-all post:
-BW Scorponok was seen by the leaker, price point/size class was not mentioned
-Fossilizers are confirmed to be present in both the Core and Deluxe classes
-G1 Inferno is a retool of ER Grapple, not a new mold for WFC 3 (arguably a given)
-No G1 Insecticons/Deluxe Insecticons seen in the first 2 waves
-Potential Slammer retool coming, no mention of what mold it's retooled from
Where is the source for all of this?
EDIT: ok, I found it but it seems the person is asking this remain all speculation, so I will leave it as such. I made a thread using another source here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/44996/
I'm still confused why another thread was needed and what other source you're talking about, since all the leaks on both threads came from the same source (and Scorponok was one of the first things the leaker mentioned), and the second thread just seems to be confusing people since more of the information is over here.
