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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Till-all-R1 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:51 pm

I'm not really a fan of G2 Laser Prime, for me personally he will always be G1 look. That said I do like the redeco as is for Scourge and might be tempted to buy it as a totally different bot, though I would prefer a different head sculpt to set it apart. That is where I think Hasbro fails at times on repaints by not tooling a new head to make it look like a different character, this one could have looked much better with a source accurate artistic head sculpt rather than just reusing Prime's boxy/squarish looking one.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Grahf_ » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:40 pm

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Why's everyone so confused as to which Shadow Striker it's going to be? It's so very clearly going to be RotF Shadow Striker. It's just so obvious. It's going to be a black with red redeco of the as of yet unseen SS86 core class Wheelie with a bunch of extra weapons to make up the deluxe price point. It's going to have all three pieces of the sword as well as the guns for Skywarp. That's on top of anything Wheelie is going to come with. In fact, it will come with two complete swords and Thundercracker's guns.

I mean the only thing more obvious than this is the Legacy Hot Shot being an update of RID 2001 Hot Shot using a version of Sideswipe as a base.

I'm obviously kidding in case it wasn't clear but I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to mess with fans at this point. I just still think this leak is too good to be true. I already know it's from the Walmart computer system to whoever tried to tell me in the other thread but it wouldn't be the first time those were faked or just outright wrong if I recall correctly.

But no lie, I would love both of those figures though. Dipping into the Spy Changers would be dangerous though. Some of those molds seem to have as many deco options as Starscream does.

For Crasher, I think Dragstrip could be easily retooled into her. The spoiler/feet could be retooled to better resemble Crasher's. The top of the vehicle/chest could be too. The front wheels could be redone as well to have only two and still have the same transformation somehow. This way when you transform them, everything will still work correctly. But most importantly, with some reworking, the front scoop can be placed behind her head and/or back. A hinge system of some sort or just retooled ball pegs or ports to get them down and then a slider to connect the two halves as well as get them out of the way of the retooled shoulder wheels. Pop them off and do it yourself to see what it would look like. Even if they don't retool this area, the ball pegs fit into the hollow parts under the scoop and a 3D printed part can be inserted to friction around the ball pegs holding the scoop down and back behind the head. And who cares if it's a combiner part? It's not like you can tell from looking at it. You have to go out of your way to stab a release mechanism with a flat object to get it to separate on its own. It would just be an added feature.

And I joked about about Hot Rod being a retool of Override on another site last night. I don't know if I'm the one that the other commenter was talking about or not but if they were at least they figured out that I was mostly joking in that large post I made. Again, the whole leak just seems crazy. And I was tired at the time like I am now so I was having a little more fun with the post than normal.

I want all the Leo Primes now. Regular, sparkly white, black, purple, Lio Junior, Thundertron, Go Prime, Alpha Trizer, Leobreaker, Nemesisbreaker, Razorclaw, Universe Leo Prime, Kimba, Mufasa, Simba, Scar, Solgaleo, shiny Solgaleo, Pyroar and shiny Pyroar colors lol. Taste the rainbow of lions. I want a whole bunch of lions so I can form Voltron. Wait, all the Voltron lions are female so that wouldn't work. I mean, none of them have manes so they must be female right? Maybe they're too young to grow out their majestic manes yet.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:08 am

Crasher, if released should obviously be that faux CW Jazz. It's basically the same car as her original Gobots version.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:14 am

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Between the lines, I read that quote as the actual colour scheme was looked into retroactively. When the mistake was noticed, a wishy-washy "new version" answer was given instead.

If it had been Hot Rod or Optimus with inverted colours, someone would have rectified it immediately. But it is neither a G1 character, nor one of the most popular. So zero F's were given to the error.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby MaximalNui » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:05 am

So, quick opinion on the official releases:

- Diaclone colors (Burn Out & Clampdown): meh, okay I guess. Honestly I'd be more interested in an actual crossover with the Diaclone reboot than more Easter Egg repaints, but I'm not against it.
- Road Hauler: the screaming face is an odd choice, but seems good.
- Blurr: my only question is why they don't specify the universe for this one. Otherwise, I really like this remold.
- Cosmos: a bit of an oddball choice, and I'm not too sure about the protuding cockpit. However, all of that just makes it seem oddly endearing to me.
- Road Rocket: I'd probably remold or replace the Energon blade/shield with a buzzsaw, but otherwise a perfect retool. Nothing else to say.
- Override: yes! Double yes! Triple yes!
- Scourge:... ok, at first I was weirded out by the innacurate deco, and knowing that it was mostly due to not knowing which version of "anti-Optimus" to do just soured the whole thing more for me. But Sabrblade's little upgrade timeline theory made me warm up to the deco. I'll still wait to see if a better one comes along, though.

As for the leaked releases:

- I do hope Crasher is closer to the GoBots design. Takara and Bandai have teamed up now, so it's possible.
- I'm divided about Shadow Striker. On the one hand, if it's based on the Universe design, we might get a Side Burn retool that isn't such a massive shellformer. On the other, if it's the Cyberverse design, we might finally get the Frankensteined mold. I really don't know which one I want most.
- ... IDW Hot Rod? Energon Rodimus? Animated Rodimus? I really don't know.
- I'm hoping the Leader is Cybertron Crumplezone, but it probably will be someone else.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:17 am

MaximalNui wrote:- I'm divided about Shadow Striker. On the one hand, if it's based on the Universe design, we might get a Side Burn retool that isn't such a massive shellformer. On the other, if it's the Cyberverse design, we might finally get the Frankensteined mold. I really don't know which one I want most.

IMO, there's no way it's going to be Universe, I know RiD fans are still desperate for more, but this isn't how it'll happen. I don't think the Frankenstein approach is likely either, because the toy will still need to convert and none of the Cyberverse toys had that. Plus the most recent comics didn't keep that design element. Practically speaking, the best we could hope for would be recolored limbs, and I don't think that's very fun.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:06 pm

I hope Crasher is a remold of POTP Jazz.

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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:09 pm

So I was looking at Selects Ricochet...little retooling on the knee, little more to move the windshield to the hood...bingo bango, you've got Crasher!
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:10 pm

MeGrimlock78 wrote:So I was looking at Selects Ricochet...little retooling on the knee, little more to move the windshield to the hood...bingo bango, you've got Crasher!


See above.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:23 pm

$;!\!&!

I REALLY gotta read ALL the posts before commenting.

Excellent work, btw!
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:37 pm

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On Scourge, it seems like he got a little bit of artistic freedom, which is fine considering the plethora of "Black Optimus Prime" deco variants we have. The non-specific instruction didn't help, and it feels like the higher-ups are like "whatever looks good" which is more like "I can't be bothered to care" attitude to me (which I somewhat hate).

On Crasher and Shadow Striker... ho boy. I can't really say anything about it that hasn't said except this: if they're the same general shape of car, there is a chance Crasher may actually be white to offset Shadow Striker:

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... which happens to be the basis for SG Crasher :lol:

If she's a racing car like Movie 2007 Fracture... Earthrise Mirage will do just fine.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:41 pm

MeGrimlock78 wrote:$;!\!&!

I REALLY gotta read ALL the posts before commenting.

Excellent work, btw!


NP. Btw, I didn't paint that. It's someone else's custom.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:...there is a chance Crasher may actually be white to offset Shadow Striker...


Er...

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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:43 pm

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It's that simple."
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Indeed, with a minimum of retooling like removing the combiner port and how the chest fold, PotP Jazz can be a great Gobots Crasher.

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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Nemesis Destron » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:23 pm

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A favorite of mine....'nuff said! ;)^ :VEHI:
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:45 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:Image



A favorite of mine....'nuff said! ;)^ :VEHI:


I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:40 pm

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple."
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Sowndwave76 wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Image



A favorite of mine....'nuff said! ;)^ :VEHI:


I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!


Well, it's not worth much. So might as well open her and marvel at how much a ragdoll she is in bot mode.

At least the vehicle is solid.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:05 am

Sowndwave76 wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Image



A favorite of mine....'nuff said! ;)^ :VEHI:


I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!


I painted the lips on mine pink and added her "mascara" too.
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Hasbro Designer Reveals Velocitron Cosmos was Initially Based on Cybertronian Bumblebee Mold

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:16 pm

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Transformers head designer Mark Maher offered some pretty cool info on his Instagram page, regarding his design of the upcoming Walmart exclusive Cosmos toy. He actually started the design process with the Cybertronian mode Bumblebee toy as a basis. You can see the images of that dropped process below along with his commentary. What is really cool here is how we see the importance of Takara in the process. They don't just figure out how to work with the Hasbro design given to them (which in this case was a retool) but they seem to have the power to change the design fully, which in this case meant create a new mold. He also posted an image of the entire set all together so you can see the range of sizes. And Hasbro designer Sam Smith also added some turnaround videos on his Instagram page. You can click here to see them.

Mark Maher wrote:Do you believe?!?!Here he is folks, in all of his cybertronian glory! COSMOS!

Lets get into it! For capsule programs and the mainline as a whole, we have certain allocated funds for new molds. I wanted a Cosmos badly, to further finish the deluxe minibots collection, but just because I love this guy. His voice, design aesthetic, colors, and especially his alt mode are all fire.

Swipe right and you will see how I sold him in as a partial tool using the Origins BB mold. He would of been more of a new rendition of him. I just didnt think a g1 version of him was possible with the tooling allocated. But TT made it happen All NEW in 3 molds!!!

Ittoku Kuwazu worked closely with Hasui Shogo in making this guy the best Cosmos evah! I chimed in on making the flag alt as a blaster and really worked hard on getting the proportions as close to his animation appearance as possible. As you can see from block model to final look, a lot had to happen. But with our great partnership this guy is ready to officiate the Speedia 500.

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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm

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Very cool! From retool to original mold.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:42 pm

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Cosmos looks amazing!
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:45 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
That partially explains where the retool rumors come from for new-mold figures: pitched as a retool, but reworked into an all-new mold. :-?
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby cruizerdave » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:54 pm

That Cosmos looks terrible. Just like the animation model.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby MCutter » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:04 pm

That Origins Bee version of Cosmos is definitely a "What could have been." The proportions of the alt-mode they ended up with just look wrong to me; like a trash can on a pitcher's mound.
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Brokebot » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:05 pm

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It doesn't matter who he was patterned after. That saucer mode looks like a stylized trashcan.

Dumbest Cosmos evah! :roll:
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Re: Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:19 pm

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The resident Rewind... well, half of one :lol:

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