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Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

What's funny is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

Sabrblade wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

What's is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

I know, the last thing anyone wants is that at leader price point with reused parts from 3 previous primes.

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

Just got charged for Override on Pulse. ALSO...

ZeroWolf wrote:Eh I think you were meant to quote D-Maximal_Primal in that post as it was him who wrote all that. Also he wasn't trying to prove to you why tr was better as a fact, he was saying why he preferred tr over Legacy. You say that he can't prove it to you, but that does mean it works both ways.

Exactly. I'm not that big a fan of the Legacy Laser Prime/Velocitron Scourge, and i was saying why I think it needed some improvements and why I think the TR was better. I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me, just making my case for my opinion on why one is better than the other.

And to me, a triple changer with a jet mode instead of a trailer base mode is actually an improvement, given what I like about trailers/bases as previously stated. It doesn't need to be exactly like the original in function for me to like it. Sometimes, changing something up like replacing the base with a jet mode to me is an improvement, it's not always a negative.

Sabrblade wrote:What's is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

Unironically, this is a small grail item of mine.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

I would hope not. Much like Scourge, he is more distinct thanks to the big wheels sticking out of the side of the legs, though in his case they are even bigger and badder looking.

william-james88 wrote:I love my TR Scourge.
And my TR Laser Prime.
I do love them more than Velocitron Scourge.

Simply put, this, yes.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

I thought about that as well, but my first thought was the actual ultra class Armada Optimus cab. Add the trailer, and it's a commander class figure.

How about another update on Powermaster Prime? Imagine ER Prime with an actual trailer that breaks down into pieces to attach to him, OR even better, a straight homage of Super Ginrai, where the trailer is solid, and we get a version of ER Prime that can be folded into a cube and inserted like that.

I have Legacy Prime and he is not terrible. From the very first time they showed him, I said he should have had Bulkheads legs. The shoulder pylons should rotate so he can be posed, but instead he cant even do the pose on the box. I realize box art isnt always doable, however in this case the lack of articulation in the arms/shoulders really limit the rockets in them. Plus yeah like others said; his arms are too thin and he can only look forward, or look straight into his shoulders. All this is really lame cause this is my 2nd fav Prime and I was looking forward to the figure. I do like the colours and headsculpt.

Takara has posted a new 2 page comic on their website to promote their first wave of Velocitron toys: Road Rocket, Burn Out, Road Hauler and Blurr. The comic is from Sakamoto and while it is only 2 pages, there are lots of fun Easter Eggs. We see that in whatever universe this comic is taking place in, Burn Out is indeed a Diaclone toy, with Dia driving. Some fans might wonder if the extra characters we see cheering them on may hint at anything and we can tell you in full confidence that THEY DO NOT. Those extra characters are just there to give each of the releases one particular character linked directly to them to cheer them on. So a fellow Diaclone toy, a fellow IDW barman, a fellow Ninja and the most powerful Constructicon.

Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

His case box says BLK Convoy, too.

Hey you need a Blitzwing? Store up the street from my job has one...Walmart.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

I thought they said they went with black convoy since that was the Japanese name and car robots came out first or something like that

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

In Japan "Black Convoy" is a more generic name or descriptor for both RiD 2001 Scourge and a lot of Nemesis Primes, guess they found out the latter part a bit too late

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before

I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before

I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.

I dont buy that, it would be just as easy to apply the tampos needed to the chest with or without translucent parts. Also the RTS repaint also had the the translucent windshield and was still closer to Scourge's deco than this new one

grimdragon2001 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

Well they also gave us a half baked reason for the deco which looks more like they based him off the wrong image off Google. It’s happened before

I get it though, the whole issue comes from the fact that Laser Prime has a translucent chest. Crazy how all deco choices stem from that. Because then, the chest must be the same colour as the windshield. So then be it scourge or any type of black Convoy, we get pink/red chest windows. And the rest ensues.

I dont buy that, it would be just as easy to apply the tampos needed to the chest with or without translucent parts. Also the RTS repaint also had the the translucent windshield and was still closer to Scourge's deco than this new one

I'm just writing the explanation Hasbro gave in their decision process for the deco

Razorbeast88 wrote:I thought they said they went with black convoy since that was the Japanese name and car robots came out first or something like that

That was their excuse for using RID 2000 instead of 2001.

Sam said they weren't actually sure what figure they were designing at the time (even the name Nemesis Prime was possible), the only mandate from higher up was that it had to have a silver tanker. He admitted that the chest colors were a mistake on his part, it seems he didn't really understand the nuances between the designs.

Reposting this from the previous article:




On the topic of the comic, I'm going to guess the remaining cheerers for part 2 of the comic. Hot Shot or Clocker for Override, Deep Cover for Clampdown, and Skybite or Dark Ai for Scourge.

Emerje

I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.

It's the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ line.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.

It's more product for Wal-Mart, nothing more

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I’ll be all over Scourge when or if I find one, but I truly have no idea what this line is supposed to be.

It's a slightly more cohesively themed Buzzworthy Bumblebee line