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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:10 am

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optimeow wrote:The Cliffjumper alt mode has been released in so many different colours.
I would take the VW beetle alt mode even if it is not yellow or if it was a different character.


I really do wish there was a secondary vehicle mode in the tooling. I know it could be seen as an undercut to include something like the Classics Bee alt mode (which was based on the 2000s Bug), but it would honestly add so much variety. Personally I don't think the Classics Bee car looks too similar to a VW (especially not the classic bug) and think it would work wonders on the ER mold.
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Re: Images of Generations Fangry, Nemesis Primal, PulseCon Exclusive Ravage and More

Postby Overcracker » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:21 am

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william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.


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Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.


Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage


Gonna have to agree with WJ. It looks like Ravage is actually using the Voyager sized Tigatron mod, that we have yet to see.

Ím not surprised it shares some engineering and design with Cheetor while still being bugger.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:38 am

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The Worlds Collide pack will be mine, if only for Blackarachnia and Fangry (that one is based more on TR Grotusque than TR Twinferno. Same base mold tho). Shame Bumblebee is the Cliffjumper alt, o well.

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Re: Images of Generations Fangry, Nemesis Primal, PulseCon Exclusive Ravage and More

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:42 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The toy has the same style of leg transformation as deluxe Cheetor though the details are different enough that this might instead be a retool of the yet to be fully revealed Tigatron figure. We also don't have a clear idea of how big this toy is compared to Cheetor, which would be our biggest clue.


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Could've maybe made a better image, but it's definitely Cheetor. A Microcassette is the metric to measure by.
That being said, it seems everything but the butt, tail, and lower legs + feet is retooled... and even then, it's hard to tell if the lower legs are the same.


Your photo is telling me the reverse instead. The G1 casette looks much bigger in comparison to Cheetor than it does in comaprison to Agent Ravage


Gonna have to agree with WJ. It looks like Ravage is actually using the Voyager sized Tigatron mod, that we have yet to see.

Ím not surprised it shares some engineering and design with Cheetor while still being bugger.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:58 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ravage almost looks like the original toy, was that ever released in the US? That Buzzworthy set is just, no. We already have a yellow Cliffjumper mold, but I can understand why they used it, Evergreen design. Fangry doesn't even come with any of the blasters that were part of the tooling of that mold, which actually completes beast mode to some extent.


They could just be packaged in the box where we can't see them, like the other Kingdom figures. I think the only reason we can see Bumper's Bumblebee's guns is to make up for the tiny size of the figure.


We did see an out-of-box shot with the figures holding the accessories and Fangry had none. Poor Fangry, he can't play with the other repaints with new heads.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:05 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:07 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:No one though that this Ravage may be its own unique mold? :-?


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:34 pm

I like that Ravage set.

But the Bumblebee set feels like a waste. I just want Fangry.

Still, hopefully this means Squeezeplay and Horri-Bull are in the pipeline. Then again, we got Crosshairs two years ago with no sign of his buddies.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:39 pm

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I think it's worth noting that it looks like the G1 Ravage is also at an angle in package, so it might be throwing off some size reference. I'm assuming Tigatron'll be between Primal and Rhinox in height, so Ravage is likely built into the Tigatron mold, and since it's Pulsecon, I assume they're gonna reveal Tigatron, then reveal this Ravage as his retool
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Re: Images of Generations Fangry, Nemesis Primal, PulseCon Exclusive Ravage and More

Postby Sculyblast » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:42 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:49 pm

More leaked pics of Ravage. Looks like the tail does not come off and it is Cheetor sized.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:52 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:54 pm

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aronjlove wrote:More leaked pics of Ravage. Looks like the tail does not come off and it is Cheetor sized.
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Well would you look at that ;)

Also my tail prediction was correct, which I wasn't expecting! I like the idea of the tail being constantly attached (and articulated!!).

While they're two entirely different figures, I do hope that Shadow Panther actually looks like a... y'know panther. The MP's alt mode is kinda ugly and very clearly not a panther.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:56 pm

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Whoa, he's extremely show accurate yet turns into an organic panther. Why is this guy the exclusive instead of Shadow Panther? Was the remolding really so expensive that Hasbro needs to rely on FOMO to break even on this toy?

Lovely figure, very excited for it. I hope there's a way to get it at a decent price outside US/UK/Canada. But that's just wishful thinking.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:03 pm

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Rtron wrote:Whoa, he's extremely show accurate yet turns into an organic panther. Why is this guy the exclusive instead of Shadow Panther? Was the remolding really so expensive that Hasbro needs to rely on FOMO to break even on this toy?

Lovely figure, very excited for it. I hope there's a way to get it at a decent price outside US/UK/Canada. But that's just wishful thinking.

It probably falls into the same category that the Autobot and Decepticon Clones did in Titans Return where they were too expensive for standard legends releases, but too cheap for deluxe releases, so Ravage might be too much for a deluxe, but too cheap for a voyager release
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby bluecatcinema » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:03 pm

Nemesis Primal was unexpected. I do like the look of Generations Fangry, though.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:19 pm

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aronjlove wrote:More leaked pics of Ravage. Looks like the tail does not come off and it is Cheetor sized.
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O.k. So he is a heavy retool of Cheetor.

Looks real nice in beast mode.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:22 pm

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aronjlove wrote:More leaked pics of Ravage. Looks like the tail does not come off and it is Cheetor sized.
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Well would you look at that ;)

Also my tail prediction was correct, which I wasn't expecting! I like the idea of the tail being constantly attached (and articulated!!).

While they're two entirely different figures, I do hope that Shadow Panther actually looks like a... y'know panther. The MP's alt mode is kinda ugly and very clearly not a panther.


Well, panthers are not a separate species, they're just black big cats. The problem with the MP is probably that its altmode is not an actual feline, but rather a bad 3D model from the mid nineties of a feline.

Edit: I mean, panthers don't occur in cheetahs. But I'm not sure if the difference between a cheetah and a black leopard or a black jaguar is going to be that noticeable in a transforming toy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:23 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:50 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:End of the day, why release a voyager for commnder class price when they can release a deluxe mwahahahah

Oh wait, Noooooooooooooo

I don't ever remember pulsecon exclusives being overpriced, they usually have come out about even with the retail cost of the figures in the set - the only wild card this time round being the die-cast in g1 ravages, if indeed it even is still metal. Also, I haven't seen anyone on here saying that they missed out on the pit of judgement set after hasbro did that second production run of it, so I'm really not quite sure what you're on about, with this being $90>:oP

As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:01 pm

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As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.


The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:09 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.


The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?

US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:14 pm

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As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.


The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?

US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.


That... shouldn't be possible, all Buzzworthy releases are supposed to be Target releases, aren't they? Even the SS stuff. :???: 3rd Party vendors maybe (they need to crack down on them...)?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:16 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
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Hellscream9999 wrote:
As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.


The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?

US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.


That... shouldn't be possible, all Buzzworthy releases are supposed to be Target releases, aren't they? Even the SS stuff. :???: 3rd Party vendors maybe (they need to crack down on them...)?

Yeah, never seen a price tag for buzzworthy at any walmart that I've gone too, not that I can provide any evidence that walmarts in my area even stock transformers >:oP
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:17 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit :-?

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.


The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?

US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.


That... shouldn't be possible, all Buzzworthy releases are supposed to be Target releases, aren't they? Even the SS stuff. :???: 3rd Party vendors maybe (they need to crack down on them...)?

Yeah, never seen a price tag for buzzworthy at any walmart that I've gone too, not that I can provide any evidence that walmarts in my area even stock transformers >:oP

Huh, I may be remembering wrong then but I could have sworn I saw the SS Buzzworthy stuff in Walmart. :BANG_HEAD:
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