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aronjlove wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
As for the worlds collide pack, this wouldn't happen to be the target exclusive multipack? I guess if the leakers said they were for pulsecon, then that's that, but it seems to fit

I love the ravage set and I like the 4-pack, but not all the figures therein. I'd be willing to talk to some people about ripping it up as I'm only interested in the primal and maybe blackarachnia.

The Ravage is the Pulsecon exclusive (or maybe SDCC, but leakers say Pulsecon). It also matches the Pit of Judgement with its mural, line-adjacent branding, and cardboard insert being a display piece (also it as a slot for G1 Ravage).

The Worlds Collide pack should be a Target exclusive (probably with some Pulse availability since it's pretty hefty and has some collector-oriented stuff) but apparently it was found at a Canadian Walmart. Do Canadian Walmarts carry the Buzzworthy line?

US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.

That... shouldn't be possible, all Buzzworthy releases are supposed to be Target releases, aren't they? Even the SS stuff. 3rd Party vendors maybe (they need to crack down on them...)?

Yeah, never seen a price tag for buzzworthy at any walmart that I've gone too, not that I can provide any evidence that walmarts in my area even stock transformers

Huh, I may be remembering wrong then but I could have sworn I saw the SS Buzzworthy stuff in Walmart.

Overquoting to say that Buzzworthy is Target exclusive in its entirety, while US Wal-Marts have RED, and Netflix as exclusives

Hellscream9999 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:End of the day, why release a voyager for commnder class price when they can release a deluxe mwahahahah

Oh wait, Noooooooooooooo

I don't ever remember pulsecon exclusives being overpriced, they usually have come out about even with the retail cost of the figures in the set - the only wild card this time round being the die-cast in g1 ravages, if indeed it even is still metal. Also, I haven't seen anyone on here saying that they missed out on the pit of judgement set after hasbro did that second production run of it, so I'm really not quite sure what you're on about, with this being $90>:oP

More of a joke about some of thhe jokes Hasbro has pulled price wise. Quint Pits near £100 here and wasnt much lower during the second availabilty if I'm remembering right.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:End of the day, why release a voyager for commnder class price when they can release a deluxe mwahahahah

Oh wait, Noooooooooooooo

I don't ever remember pulsecon exclusives being overpriced, they usually have come out about even with the retail cost of the figures in the set - the only wild card this time round being the die-cast in g1 ravages, if indeed it even is still metal. Also, I haven't seen anyone on here saying that they missed out on the pit of judgement set after hasbro did that second production run of it, so I'm really not quite sure what you're on about, with this being $90>:oP

More of a joke about some of thhe jokes Hasbro has pulled price wise. Quint Pits near £100 here and wasnt much lower during the second availabilty if I'm remembering right.

If you're in the UK, you should be able to get a Ravage directly now. I don't think Pulse was available there when the Pit released. Reasonably speaking, Ravage should be about 30 USD, but I'm not 100% on that guess.

That Ravage set. YES! Is that dual pistols with lazer pointers I see?

As for the other set, the Blackarachnia is glorious, I'll whale for that wonderful Cliffjumper mold as many times as they want to release it, and I've always dreamed of a Nemesis repaint of Series 1 Primal. I'm not a Fangry fan, but I love Titans Return.

I don't understand their connection though. What's the set's theme?

They had me at Fangry.

Not sure if anyone else has said this, in regards to the four accessories with the Ravage set...I only see 1 BW gun, and 2 G1 guns...I think the 4th is the little "cassette hatch" that's packaged below cassette-Ravage.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Not sure if anyone else has said this, in regards to the four accessories with the Ravage set...I only see 1 BW gun, and 2 G1 guns...I think the 4th is the little "cassette hatch" that's packaged below cassette-Ravage.

The 2nd BW gun is obscured a bit by the cardboard on the left side.

Both of these are awesome, especially Ravage!

Mistaken_Table wrote:I don't understand their connection though. What's the set's theme?

Exactly what the set's title says: "Worlds Collide".

Blackarachnia looks awesome. Great deco on an awesome mold. Kinda wish she was available separately because I'd buy the slag out of her even though I have the standard version.
Fangry is cool and it's nice he's gotten a figure. I don't have much connection to the character but oh well.
Nemesis Primal is good but I feel a black repaint of a black toy is always going to look a bit odd. I would have preferred the Universe 2003 deco for something a bit different.
Bumblebee would be a lot cooler if he had the Bayverse black stripes. As is he's just Hubcap with Bee's head. Not awful but the weakest of the set, and as I'm quite happy with my custom police Bumblebee, I'd probably sell him off.
Still, good looking set! Might spring for it depending on how money is when it goes up for preorder.

aronjlove wrote:That's the thing. We know for an absolute fact that VW has restrictions but no one knows those exact restrictions. At first, it was assumed good guys were OK so we would get more Autobots in that mold but this here shows that VW was probably only OK for the movie-specific release and one more use which ended up being Netflix. I seriously doubt we will see VW Bumblebee again. Frankly, that company could use all the goodwill it could get so I don't understand but whatever.

Edit: Forgot about the upcoming premium finish as Kanrabat said.

But as you said, VW is ok with the movie related stuff and the upcoming premium finish is based off of that. Kind of odd that Volkswagen had more licensed transformers products in 2018 than any other time in the franchise' history and yet wouldn't let Hasbro do more now, really not sure about the logic of it all.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:While they're two entirely different figures, I do hope that Shadow Panther actually looks like a... y'know panther.

Not really sure what you are referring to since a panther isn't a specific species. Did you think it was? A Panther can reffer to a bunch of different big cats, including some that don't exist.

aronjlove wrote:US Walmarts carry the SS Buzzworthy stuff but that core-class 2-pack is Target exclusive.

If you ever spotted SS Buzzworthy stuff at Walmart, that would have been some major news.

Mistaken_Table wrote:I don't understand their connection though. What's the set's theme?

They are completely unrelated, that's the point.

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:While they're two entirely different figures, I do hope that Shadow Panther actually looks like a... y'know panther.

Not really sure what you are referring to since a panther isn't a specific species. Did you think it was? A Panther can reffer to a bunch of different big cats, including some that don't exist.

Cheetahs have a different face shape and thinner limbs from Greater cats (specifically jaguars or leopard). While I don't expect Hasbro to redo the limbs for Shadow Panther (they didn't for Ravage), at least giving him a bulkier cat head would be nice.

That being said, if they didn't it probably wouldn't be as much of a bother as MP Shadow Panther who looks rancid (I know the BW models hold a place in people's hearts but... CGI and modelling skills are very different nowadays and that cheetah face is rough). I'd also really love it if Shadow Panther had a slight leopard print like many leopard panthers do to help differentiate him from Ravage.

Who wants some galleries?!?!?

Seibertron wrote:

Who wants some galleries?!?!?

Seibertron wrote:

Who wants some galleries?!?!?

Yes, please!

I'm working on sorting the 900 photos I took today. Of course I can't just do these galleries. I set myself up so that I can finish up the non-essential galleries over the next week or two (such as Generations Selects Hubcap, Netflix Bumblebee and so on). I should have the galleries completed for Fangry and Brisko. I'll finish up Worlds Collide Nemesis Primal, Blackarachnia and Bumblebee over the next few days.

Man, it is so wild that, with Nemesis Primal, we now have not one but TWO "black repaints" of Optimus Primal's season 1 body, the first of which being the RobotMasters Beast Convoy Limited Black Version.









And then there's the POTP Throne of the Primes version of Optimus Optimus that is likewise a "black repaint" of that form of his (though, his inner robot based on his season 1 body is pretty much unchanged from the normal version).




There's even the OG black repaint of his Basic class bat body, Onyx Primal.




All we need now is a black repaint of Transmetal Optimus Primal to complete the black versions of all of his Beast Wars (just Beast Wars) bodies.

william-james88 wrote:But as you said, VW is ok with the movie related stuff and the upcoming premium finish is based off of that. Kind of odd that Volkswagen had more licensed transformers products in 2018 than any other time in the franchise' history and yet wouldn't let Hasbro do more now, really not sure about the logic of it all.

I personally don't think it's "odd," since licenses are usually time-bound and product-bound. I also don't think of it in terms that "Volkswagen won't let Hasbro do it," because the only way to do it is with a deal. It's entirely possible that it just comes down to money. VW might want more than Hasbro is willing to pay, especially if Hasbro isn't confident they can pass the expense on. Or maybe VW just isn't interested anymore since they've discontinued making Beetles and there's no point in marketing them? On the other hand, Hasbro legal might be negotiating the next big release right now.

I don't have any inside information, and I can't make it make sense. These things happen or they don't. If you think Transformers has it bad, just think about all the toymakers for film franchises where they have to negotiate likeness rights with individual actors.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But as you said, VW is ok with the movie related stuff and the upcoming premium finish is based off of that. Kind of odd that Volkswagen had more licensed transformers products in 2018 than any other time in the franchise' history and yet wouldn't let Hasbro do more now, really not sure about the logic of it all.

I personally don't think it's "odd," since licenses are usually time-bound and product-bound. I also don't think of it in terms that "Volkswagen won't let Hasbro do it," because the only way to do it is with a deal. It's entirely possible that it just comes down to money. VW might want more than Hasbro is willing to pay, especially if Hasbro isn't confident they can pass the expense on. Or maybe VW just isn't interested anymore since they've discontinued making Beetles and there's no point in marketing them? On the other hand, Hasbro legal might be negotiating the next big release right now.

I don't have any inside information, and I can't make it make sense. These things happen or they don't. If you think Transformers has it bad, just think about all the toymakers for film franchises where they have to negotiate likeness rights with individual actors.

Agreed. Considering that Porsche is going to be in the next Transformers movie, I'm assuming that we'll get more Volkswagen Bumblebee products in the near future. Why release Volkswagen products now and pay extra for licensing, when there's likely a deal in the works for the next Transformers film? Seems pretty obvious what's going on now that we know Volkswagen is still involved with the film franchise.

Seibertron wrote:Agreed. Considering that Porsche is going to be in the next Transformers movie, I'm assuming that we'll get more Volkswagen Bumblebee products in the near future. Why release Volkswagen products now and pay extra for licensing, when there's likely a deal in the works for the next Transformers film? Seems pretty obvious what's going on now that we know Volkswagen is still involved with the film franchise.

But the Bumblebee movie ended with Bee scanning his Camaro altmode.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Agreed. Considering that Porsche is going to be in the next Transformers movie, I'm assuming that we'll get more Volkswagen Bumblebee products in the near future. Why release Volkswagen products now and pay extra for licensing, when there's likely a deal in the works for the next Transformers film? Seems pretty obvious what's going on now that we know Volkswagen is still involved with the film franchise.

But the Bumblebee movie ended with Bee scanning his Camaro altmode.

I'm referring to G1/WFC Bumblebee, which is what I thought you guys were talking about. But maybe there will more movie Bumblebee VW products like Studio Series or whatever.

The next TF movie might be a good opportunity for a Masterpiece
G1 Jazz finally.

Seibertron wrote:I'm working on sorting the 900 photos I took today. Of course I can't just do these galleries. I set myself up so that I can finish up the non-essential galleries over the next week or two (such as Generations Selects Hubcap, Netflix Bumblebee and so on). I should have the galleries completed for Fangry and Brisko. I'll finish up Worlds Collide Nemesis Primal, Blackarachnia and Bumblebee over the next few days.

Can you confirm that Fangry doesn't come with any guns?

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Agreed. Considering that Porsche is going to be in the next Transformers movie, I'm assuming that we'll get more Volkswagen Bumblebee products in the near future. Why release Volkswagen products now and pay extra for licensing, when there's likely a deal in the works for the next Transformers film? Seems pretty obvious what's going on now that we know Volkswagen is still involved with the film franchise.

But the Bumblebee movie ended with Bee scanning his Camaro altmode.

I'm referring to G1/WFC Bumblebee, which is what I thought you guys were talking about. But maybe there will more movie Bumblebee VW products like Studio Series or whatever.

Ah, see, your mentioning the next movie made me think you meant we'd get more VW Bumblebee toys because of Movie Bumblebee being a VW again, despite his becoming a Camaro at the end of his own movie.

Seibertron wrote:The next TF movie might be a good opportunity for a Masterpiece
G1 Jazz finally.

That would be awesome!