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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby First-Aid » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:17 am

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Razorbeast88 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:New Golden Disk card from the Waspinator/Shadow Panther wave.

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/waspinator-and-shadow-panther-in-package-images.1220058/page-5#post-19524658

The text translates to
Becomes
Darkarachnia..
Herald of Unicron
Out of all of the names they could have chosen, they went with that?


Yeah its pretty lame. Might as well have been taserface


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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:20 am

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Also of note, both Rodimus and The Ark came with cards as well (so it's not just Deluxe/Voyager/Leader). Although they were not special or exclusive in any way, just duplicates of what I had already. In fact while I have only purchased 6 Kingdom toys to date, I only have 3 unique cards (and got 3 duplicates of the same). It really speaks to the randomness of how they are packed.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:22 am

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Regarding Shadow Panther and Waspinator, it's about time we got a few more :PREDACON: .

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:32 am

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Razorbeast88 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:New Golden Disk card from the Waspinator/Shadow Panther wave.

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/waspinator-and-shadow-panther-in-package-images.1220058/page-5#post-19524658

The text translates to
Becomes
Darkarachnia..
Herald of Unicron
Out of all of the names they could have chosen, they went with that?


Yeah its pretty lame. Might as well have been taserface
Just as silly as "Dinomus".
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:32 am

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Interesting that Darkrachnia is seemingly based on the MP, the sources for these cards are all over the place :lol:

So now we're down to the last two (of three) final Destinies. Blackarachnia was the least predictable (I was kinda expecting a BM reference for some reason) but Megatron and Optimus are pretty obvious. If the final two aren't Heroic Megs and Nemesis Prime I'll be really surprised.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:37 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:New Golden Disk card from the Waspinator/Shadow Panther wave.

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/waspinator-and-shadow-panther-in-package-images.1220058/page-5#post-19524658

The text translates to
Becomes
Darkarachnia..
Herald of Unicron
Out of all of the names they could have chosen, they went with that?


Yeah its pretty lame. Might as well have been taserface
Just as silly as "Dinomus".


Agreed!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:51 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Those purple wings look terrible. The it's fine on the eyes but the wings are just :SICK:


Yeah the purple is rough but my biggest issue is with the bug head (eyes specifically) being innacurate which leads to an innacurate chest (it's not as bad as the images in the article though since they forgot a transformation step).

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At least you have those. My WalMart's Transformers section is full of an oxygen/nitrogen gas mixture.


Yeah I was gonna say that. And plus none of my stores ever got the wave 1 deluxes, so you never know how lucky you are.

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Takara Reveals that Kingdom Red Alert and Deseeus Drone will not be Exclusives in Japan

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:14 pm

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This is actually some pretty good news to many who dislike exclusivity and find it an extra hassel to find certain figures. Takara has several news listings, where some figures are exclusive to TTMall while others are not. And what is super fun about this is that it is revealed that both Red Alert and the Deseeus Army Drone (that Siege Ironhide redeco) are not exclusives. Meaning that both figures which are exclusive in the West (at varying locations depending on your country) will be available at standard retail in Japan. So you'll be able to order them from HLJ or Amazon Japan. Of course, shipping will add to your cost, but this will definitely help in terms of finding toys you may have not been able to find before.

Takara also revealed that the Pulse Exclusive Beast Wars Ravage will be a TTMall exclusive, which is not a surprise, and it will be released in February 2022 in Japan. They also have listings for Studio Series Jolt and BB Thrust. That means we have more official images of Jolt to give you, which you can see below.

Here are links to the listings, though the TTMall channel is only open to Japanese residents.

Red Alert: https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810188384/
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:36 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:New Golden Disk card from the Waspinator/Shadow Panther wave.

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/waspinator-and-shadow-panther-in-package-images.1220058/page-5#post-19524658

The text translates to
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Darkarachnia..
Herald of Unicron

Noice
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:33 pm

Fudge my luck, I recently ordered RA from TT, as it wasn't listed at Amazon.jp (which is usually cheaper and actually accepts Japanese Visa-Debit/credit cards, unlike TT Mall)...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:44 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:54 pm

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Any idea where on that Chilean website the figures were found? I can't even find an out-of-stock listing.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:12 pm

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...well that seems timely, considering we were just ranting about bad/weird distribution. However, there appears to be an additional wrinkle here.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Any idea where on that Chilean website the figures were found? I can't even find an out-of-stock listing.
They were found in-person at the store the website is for, not online, which leads into that wrinkle I mentioned. The following is the Wave 4 Deluxe case they received, according to the the provider of this photo who confirmed with the store staff. You notice who's missing?
Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes.jpg
Looks like instead of pushing Blaster from Wave 5 up to Wave 4, they pushed Pipes and Slammer back to Wave 5 to join him instead. :(
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:15 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:...well that seems timely, considering we were just ranting about bad/weird distribution. However, there appears to be an additional wrinkle here.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Any idea where on that Chilean website the figures were found? I can't even find an out-of-stock listing.
They were found in-person at the store the website is for, not online, which leads into that wrinkle I mentioned. The following is the Wave 4 Deluxe case they received, according to the the provider of this photo who confirmed with the store staff. You notice who's missing?
Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes.jpg
Looks like instead of pushing Blaster from Wave 5 up to Wave 4, they pushed Pipes and Slammer back to Wave 5 to join him instead. :(


Unless this is a different wave altogether.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:31 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...well that seems timely, considering we were just ranting about bad/weird distribution. However, there appears to be an additional wrinkle here.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Any idea where on that Chilean website the figures were found? I can't even find an out-of-stock listing.
They were found in-person at the store the website is for, not online, which leads into that wrinkle I mentioned. The following is the Wave 4 Deluxe case they received, according to the the provider of this photo who confirmed with the store staff. You notice who's missing?
The attachment Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes.jpg is no longer available
Looks like instead of pushing Blaster from Wave 5 up to Wave 4, they pushed Pipes and Slammer back to Wave 5 to join him instead. :(


Unless this is a different wave altogether.
What other wave would it be? I'm not following.

Also I meant to respond to this the first time:
william-james88 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:Those purple wings look terrible. The it's fine on the eyes but the wings are just :SICK:


Yeah the purple is rough but my biggest issue is with the bug head (eyes specifically) being inaccurate which leads to an inaccurate chest (it's not as bad as the images in the article though since they forgot a transformation step).
The bug head is "inaccurate" to Waspinator because it IS accurate to actual wasps, both in terms of the head shape and the wrap-around eyes:
zoology-animals-insects-wasps-detail-compound-eyes-close-up-distribution-worldwide-animal-insect-X5T16K.jpg

Also I happen to like the purple wings, it reminds me of Animated.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:33 pm

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It could be a repack wave, or it could just be coincidence those 2 toys were in stock as well. Stock from different waves can be on the shelf at the same time.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:37 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...well that seems timely, considering we were just ranting about bad/weird distribution. However, there appears to be an additional wrinkle here.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Any idea where on that Chilean website the figures were found? I can't even find an out-of-stock listing.
They were found in-person at the store the website is for, not online, which leads into that wrinkle I mentioned. The following is the Wave 4 Deluxe case they received, according to the the provider of this photo who confirmed with the store staff. You notice who's missing?
Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes.jpg
Looks like instead of pushing Blaster from Wave 5 up to Wave 4, they pushed Pipes and Slammer back to Wave 5 to join him instead. :(


Unless this is a different wave altogether.
What other wave would it be? I'm not following.

Also I meant to respond to this the first time:
william-james88 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:Those purple wings look terrible. The it's fine on the eyes but the wings are just :SICK:


Yeah the purple is rough but my biggest issue is with the bug head (eyes specifically) being inaccurate which leads to an inaccurate chest (it's not as bad as the images in the article though since they forgot a transformation step).
The bug head is "inaccurate" to Waspinator because it IS accurate to actual wasps, both in terms of the head shape and the wrap-around eyes:
zoology-animals-insects-wasps-detail-compound-eyes-close-up-distribution-worldwide-animal-insect-X5T16K.jpg

Also I happen to like the purple wings, it reminds me of Animated.


The pic of the bug you posted doesn't have the same venom like eyes as the toy so I really don't understand. Please post them side by side so that I can see what you refer to because I am not sure how it looks like that.

Also, it could be a 3.5 wave that appears in select markets. We don't know.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:26 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Also, it could be a 3.5 wave that appears in select markets. We don't know.
o.supreme wrote:It could be a repack wave, or it could just be coincidence those 2 toys were in stock as well. Stock from different waves can be on the shelf at the same time.
I guess it could be a weird interim wave, but I thought Hasbro stopped doing those, since the late TR and PotP waves got messed up by interim restock waves and they haven't done one since? Also the store employee specified that those four figures all came in the same case, so unless the store employee is lying or just plain wrong, these aren't leftover Tracks/Paleotrex's from earlier waves, that just is who's in Wave 4 whatever that wave is I guess.

william-james88 wrote:The pic of the bug you posted doesn't have the same venom like eyes as the toy so I really don't understand. Please post them side by side so that I can see what you refer to because I am not sure we are looking at the same toy.
Let me see if I can explain this better: the OG Beast Wars Waspinator has round eyes on the front of his head, right? I think we can all agree on that, but to illustrate my point, here's both a shot from Beast Wars cartoon and a pic of my soon-to-be-replaced T30 Waspinator, since it emulates the cartoon's bug head design:
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Now, actual wasps have almost cashew-shaped eyes that wrap around the sides of their heads rather than sit on the front of them. To illustrate this, the same Google image result as before, as well as the Wikipedia image for wasp:
zoology-animals-insects-wasps-detail-compound-eyes-close-up-distribution-worldwide-animal-insect-X5T16K.jpg
wikipedia wasp.jpg

This brings us to Kingdom Waspinator, who, wouldn't you know it, has cashew eyes on the sides of his head, which shouldn't be a surprise considering it's well-established that Kingdom is doing realistic alt-modes over cartoon-accurate alt-modes for the most part:
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Kingdom Waspy's head is also slimmer and has more pronounced mandibles when compared to the original design & T30 figure, which again matches the real animal.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:40 pm

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IIRC, one of the leakers a while back said that there was a chance Slammer and Pipes would get pushed to Wave 5
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:44 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:58 pm

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Thanks Nemesis Primal, I was not seeing the cashew like shape properly on the real life wasp.
And yes, odds are better that this is the 4th wave but I'd like some confirmation if ever I news it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:02 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Thanks Nemesis Primal, I was not seeing the cashew like shape properly on the real life wasp.
And yes, odds are better that this is the 4th wave but I'd like some confirmation if ever I news it.
No problem! ;)^
And yeah, wanting to wait to news that makes sense, I just wanted to raise awareness of the possibility.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:07 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks Nemesis Primal, I was not seeing the cashew like shape properly on the real life wasp.
And yes, odds are better that this is the 4th wave but I'd like some confirmation if ever I news it.
No problem! ;)^
And yeah, wanting to wait to news that makes sense, I just wanted to raise awareness of the possibility.


Thanks, definitely a possibility. Also would explain why reviews for these 2 deluxes came out first.
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Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:11 pm

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Question to those who have seen Rodinus at Target, how many boxes were there when you saw him and was he ever restocked? And was he just found at Target or Walmart too?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:48 am

william-james88 wrote:Question to those who have seen Rodinus at Target, how many boxes were there when you saw him and was he ever restocked? And was he just found at Target or Walmart too?


I've seen them 4 deep at one Target once, and 2 deep at a couple others. I have seen him restocked at a couple stores as well.

I saw a single Rodimus Prime on the top shelf at my Walmart as well, only once.

Target had him priced at $86 while Walmart had him at $80.
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