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Emerje wrote:I'm sure a lot of people appreciate seeing this figure fully like this. If I wasn't being a completist with WFC I'd certainly have second thoughts about buying it. I'd expect this from Authentics or Cyber Battalion, not Generations. If the head being hollow doesn't bother you then why get so worked up over it being highlighted in the article?
If you're fine with this then you'd have to also be fine with Hasbro if they started making Marvel or Star Wars figures with holes in their heads as well, right? Or maybe Hasbro should stop painting the back of figures, too, since nobody displays the back of figures, right?
Emerje
AcademyofDrX wrote: This is the new Hasbro version of Legion class, not direct competition with Newage, which is five times as expensive.
jtanimator(to whom I was responding) has a problem with the pic of the hollow head being in the headline of the front-page news article. He was suggesting that the writer of the article did it deliberately to smear the figure (and possibly by extension Hasbro) and I was responding that there's nothing wrong with making an obvious flaw with the figure a focal point of the article.-Kanrabat- wrote:what's the issue with the hollow head again?
Emerje wrote:I'm sure a lot of people appreciate seeing this figure fully like this. If I wasn't being a completist with WFC I'd certainly have second thoughts about buying it. I'd expect this from Authentics or Cyber Battalion, not Generations.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:If you're fine with this then you'd have to also be fine with Hasbro if they started making Marvel or Star Wars figures with holes in their heads as well, right? Or maybe Hasbro should stop painting the back of figures, too, since nobody displays the back of figures, right?
Emerje
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think the article title should be corrected lolYou do realize this is a cheap, simplified, relatively tiny $11 toy, right?Immortal Starscream wrote:oof. guess where going back to the tradition of hot rod toys being not stellar. well, at least we got one good one out of kingdom!
Indeed.ZeroWolf wrote:The hollow parts don't bother me, especially since the head won't be visible unless you're standing directly behind him and have the back part folded down.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that 1. Humans are inherently less complex than transforming robots, and so would not require such molding concessions at a comparably bottom-level price point and 2. The argument being made wasn't that the hole didn't matter because nobody would display his back... it was that it didn't matter because - barring egregious incomplete transformation - thanks to the spoiler it would be covered. So, a far more accurate comparison would be leaving the back of a Darth Vader figure unpainted because it's just going to be hidden by the cape.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Emerje wrote:I'm sure a lot of people appreciate seeing this figure fully like this. If I wasn't being a completist with WFC I'd certainly have second thoughts about buying it. I'd expect this from Authentics or Cyber Battalion, not Generations.
Emerje![]()
In case you didn't notice by now, the Core class when applied to larger characters is essentially "Slightly-classier Authentics/Cyber Battalion-level figures under the Generations banner". Its main purpose is to provide cheap, simplified, miniature versions of characters, with a secondary function of providing a replacement Scout/Prime Wars Legends class for small characters like Rattrap who they can't go Earthrise Cliffjumper on.
Emerje wrote:If you're fine with this then you'd have to also be fine with Hasbro if they started making Marvel or Star Wars figures with holes in their heads as well, right? Or maybe Hasbro should stop painting the back of figures, too, since nobody displays the back of figures, right?
Emerje![]()
Except that 1. Humans are inherently less complex than transforming robots, and so would not require such molding concessions at a comparably bottom-level price point and 2. The argument being made wasn't that the hole didn't matter because nobody would display his back... it was that it didn't matter because - barring egregious incomplete transformation - thanks to the spoiler it would be covered. So, a far more accurate comparison would be leaving the back of a Darth Vader figure unpainted because it's just going to be hidden by the cape.
william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that 1. Humans are inherently less complex than transforming robots, and so would not require such molding concessions at a comparably bottom-level price point and 2. The argument being made wasn't that the hole didn't matter because nobody would display his back... it was that it didn't matter because - barring egregious incomplete transformation - thanks to the spoiler it would be covered. So, a far more accurate comparison would be leaving the back of a Darth Vader figure unpainted because it's just going to be hidden by the cape.
Does it look like Hot Rod has no head articulation then?
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that 1. Humans are inherently less complex than transforming robots, and so would not require such molding concessions at a comparably bottom-level price point and 2. The argument being made wasn't that the hole didn't matter because nobody would display his back... it was that it didn't matter because - barring egregious incomplete transformation - thanks to the spoiler it would be covered. So, a far more accurate comparison would be leaving the back of a Darth Vader figure unpainted because it's just going to be hidden by the cape.
Does it look like Hot Rod has no head articulation then?
He does, there's a swivel sandwiched in between his front and back torso halves.
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that 1. Humans are inherently less complex than transforming robots, and so would not require such molding concessions at a comparably bottom-level price point and 2. The argument being made wasn't that the hole didn't matter because nobody would display his back... it was that it didn't matter because - barring egregious incomplete transformation - thanks to the spoiler it would be covered. So, a far more accurate comparison would be leaving the back of a Darth Vader figure unpainted because it's just going to be hidden by the cape.
Does it look like Hot Rod has no head articulation then?
He does, there's a swivel sandwiched in between his front and back torso halves.
Emerje
Well then any argument of saying we wouldnt see it or it's covered flies right out the window.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Looking forward re-creating the '86 movie scene when Hotrod's foolish actions lead to Optimus's death. Then everyone call him stupid. Then he turn around....
sol magnus wrote:A core class Hot Rod's head took up three pages of discussion.Wake me up when it's a deluxe class or something.
Sentinel_Primal wrote:sol magnus wrote:A core class Hot Rod's head took up three pages of discussion.Wake me up when it's a deluxe class or something.
I do find it oddly funny that Hot Rod's hollow head seems to be outrage worthy (I get it, but honestly it's a $10 figure and I don't care enough to complain), but Drag Strip who is a deluxe (which is what, $22 in store $25 online?) gets a pass for the hollow head. Maybe it's cause his head becomes a seat in vehicle mode?
Immortal Starscream wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Looking forward re-creating the '86 movie scene when Hotrod's foolish actions lead to Optimus's death. Then everyone call him stupid. Then he turn around....
you sir, always know how to get a solid laugh out of me
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