Additional Amazon Listings: In-Package Images of Transformers Combiner Wars Firefly and Alpha Bravo
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Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Arctorro for alerting us to additional Amazon Listings of Transformers Combiner Wars Firefly and Alpha Bravo. We get to see the figures in-package as well as robot and alt modes. These guys can become an arm or leg of Superion.
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Posted by Convoy on December 4th, 2014 @ 11:06pm CST
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2014 @ 11:51pm CST
Ooh, now I'm tempted to go looking at how many toys each G1 combiner member has had.RiddlerJ wrote:Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?
As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.
Aaaaaand the temptation wins out (but I'll limit it to just the 1985-1988 combiners):
Constructicons
Bonecrusher - 8 toys
Scavenger - 8 toys
Scrapper - 8 toys
Hook - 7 toys
Long Haul - 8 toys
Mixmaster - 7 toys
Aerialbots
Air Raid - 7 toys
Skydive - 5 toys
Fireflight/Firefly - 5 toys
Slingshot - 3 toys
Silverbolt - 7 toys
Alpha Bravo - 1 toy
Powerglide - 6 toys
Protectobots (each one had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Streetwise - 3 toys
Groove - 2 toys
Blades - 4 toys
First Aid - 2 toys
Hot Spot - 5 toys
Stunticons (each one minus Breakdown had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Dead End - 4 toys
Breakdown - 5 toys (6 if you want to count the unofficial BotCon 2004 Action Master)
Wildrider - 2 toys
Drag Strip - 3 toys
Motormaster - 3 toys (4 if you want to count the unreleased Universe redeco of Thunder Clash)
Combaticons
Brawl - 7 toys
Swindle - 7 toys
Vortex - 7 toys
Blast Off - 6 toys
Onslaught - 10 toys
Predacons
Razorclaw - 5 toys
Rampage - 3 toys
Headstrong - 3 toys
Tantrum/Torox - 3 toys
Divebomb - 3 toys
Technobots
Afterburner - 2 toys
Nosecone - 1 toy
Strafe - 4 toys
Lightspeed - 1 toy
Scattershot - 2 toys
Terrorcons
Rippersnapper - 1 toy
Sinnertwin - 2 toys (one was repurposed from Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Twinstrike)
Cutthroat - 1 toy
Blot - 1 toy
Hun-Gurrr - 2 toys
Seacons (each one minus Nautilator and Tentakil had a BWII Seacon toy repurposed into these Seacons)
Overbite - 4 toys
Seawing - 4 toys
Nautilator - 3 toys
Skalor - 4 toys
Tentakil - 3 toys
Snaptrap - 4 toys
Onslaught wins.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:32am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Ooh, now I'm tempted to go looking at how many toys each G1 combiner member has had.RiddlerJ wrote:Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?
As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.
Aaaaaand the temptation wins out (but I'll limit it to just the 1985-1988 combiners):
Constructicons
Bonecrusher - 8 toys
Scavenger - 8 toys
Scrapper - 8 toys
Hook - 7 toys
Long Haul - 8 toys
Mixmaster - 7 toys
Aerialbots
Air Raid - 7 toys
Skydive - 5 toys
Fireflight/Firefly - 5 toys
Slingshot - 3 toys
Silverbolt - 7 toys
Alpha Bravo - 1 toy
Powerglide - 6 toys
Protectobots (each one had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Streetwise - 3 toys
Groove - 2 toys
Blades - 4 toys
First Aid - 2 toys
Hot Spot - 5 toys
Stunticons (each one minus Breakdown had an unreleased G2 toy, so add one to each total if you'd like to count the G2 versions)
Dead End - 4 toys
Breakdown - 5 toys (6 if you want to count the unofficial BotCon 2004 Action Master)
Wildrider - 2 toys
Drag Strip - 3 toys
Motormaster - 3 toys (4 if you want to count the unreleased Universe redeco of Thunder Clash)
Combaticons
Brawl - 7 toys
Swindle - 7 toys
Vortex - 7 toys
Blast Off - 6 toys
Onslaught - 10 toys
Predacons
Razorclaw - 5 toys
Rampage - 3 toys
Headstrong - 3 toys
Tantrum/Torox - 3 toys
Divebomb - 3 toys
Technobots
Afterburner - 2 toys
Nosecone - 1 toy
Strafe - 4 toys
Lightspeed - 1 toy
Scattershot - 2 toys
Terrorcons
Rippersnapper - 1 toy
Sinnertwin - 2 toys (one was repurposed from Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Twinstrike)
Cutthroat - 1 toy
Blot - 1 toy
Hun-Gurrr - 2 toys
Seacons (each one minus Nautilator and Tentakil had a BWII Seacon toy repurposed into these Seacons)
Overbite - 4 toys
Seawing - 4 toys
Nautilator - 3 toys
Skalor - 4 toys
Tentakil - 3 toys
Snaptrap - 4 toys
Onslaught wins.
Are you counting molds that just used the name but aren't meant to be the original character?
Posted by Sabrblade on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:37am CST
I counted only the toys that were meant to be the Primax versions of the characters, official repurposes, and redecoes/remolds of certain molds.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Are you counting molds that just used the name but aren't meant to be the original character?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:39am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Onslaught wins.
The dream is dead.
Posted by Cobotron on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:13am CST
Posted by Emerje on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:45am CST
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:12am CST
Guessing it will be near the toy fair before we see what's in the future waves.
Posted by g60force on December 5th, 2014 @ 4:02am CST
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...
study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity
Posted by g60force on December 5th, 2014 @ 4:03am CST
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...
study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity
Posted by BERSEKAEL on December 5th, 2014 @ 5:20am CST
Posted by Deathsanras on December 5th, 2014 @ 5:38am CST
They possibly could have engineered them to integrate or hide the combiner pegs into the two modes - have the chest open up, fold out the peg and then close the chest up, for example. But the retro-yet-modern interpretation of the peg-chests - that everyone is going to have, due to their interchangeability - cranks up the awesome for me.
Posted by Arctorro on December 5th, 2014 @ 6:00am CST
g60force wrote:Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I noticed it many moons ago, but thought others might have brought it up already...
but lately when i read the comment of many peepz let me suspect otherwise...
study them closely u will see what i mean:
1.the palm fold back, which forms the base of the heel
2.the thumbs folds, which become the heel itself
3.the 4fingers fold into the flatfoor cavity
I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 7:43am CST
Arctorro wrote:g60force wrote:Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.
It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.
Posted by Lockdownhunter on December 5th, 2014 @ 9:13am CST
Y U STEAL MY MONEY?
Posted by MemphisR56 on December 5th, 2014 @ 9:28am CST
william-james88 wrote:Arctorro wrote:g60force wrote:Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.
It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.
I know some people are complaining that they look a little goofy in bot mode, and the transformations are simplistic, but considering these facts, each limb bot has a total of 4 modes. on a deluxe class sized figure and price point. Arm, Leg, Bot & Alt.
It took them 2 years of QC to get Voyager Triple Changers (close to) perfect.
It's surprising they look half as good as they do.
I just wish the Knuckle guns where removable/hidden in hand mode.
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 9:33am CST
MemphisR56 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Arctorro wrote:g60force wrote:Doesnt any1 notice that the combiner hand/foot is engineered so it can have both purpose?
I honestly thought that was common knowledge, otherwise would've mentioned it.
It was common knowledge, as was the fact that the connector piece is along their torso. And since it's scramble city style and everyone can be an arm or a leg, it only makes sense that the accessory serves a double purpose. Actually, it's a triple purpose since it can also be used as a weapon.
I know some people are complaining that they look a little goofy in bot mode, and the transformations are simplistic, but considering these facts, each limb bot has a total of 4 modes. on a deluxe class sized figure and price point. Arm, Leg, Bot & Alt.
It took them 2 years of QC to get Voyager Triple Changers (close to) perfect.
It's surprising they look half as good as they do.
I just wish the Knuckle guns where removable/hidden in hand mode.
Totally agree with you on the talk of value. We can just look at the 3rd parties to see how much we are saving (and saved on Springer!). However, I dont mind the knuckle guns there, they remind me a lot of G1 predaking.
Oh wait, even though he was never a scramble city, could those gestalt hands be an indication that Predaking is the other Decepticon combiner in that line? There is still hope!
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 10:24am CST
Oh and Monstructor to finally get the respect he deserves.
Posted by Hero Alpha on December 5th, 2014 @ 11:27am CST
william-james88 wrote: However, I dont mind the knuckle guns there, they remind me a lot of G1 predaking.
Oh wait, even though he was never a scramble city, could those gestalt hands be an indication that Predaking is the other Decepticon combiner in that line? There is still hope!
I still think G1 Predaking still looks awesome, even beside new generations stuff. Not as much need for a remake with him as the other old G1 combiners don't look as well now. I would love a Monstuctor though, so much.
Posted by Va'al on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:15pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:22pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:25pm CST
william-james88 wrote:15 steps, not bad. Its too bad he looks like a robot hiding under a jet in alt mode. Then again, a more expensive recent Leader sized jet (cough cough Jetfire cough)who doesn't have to become a cobiner torso looked the same so I couldnt expect too much.
When will Hasbro admit they're doing that just for nostalgia's sake?
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:27pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:15 steps, not bad. Its too bad he looks like a robot hiding under a jet in alt mode. Then again, a more expensive recent Leader sized jet (cough cough Jetfire cough)who doesn't have to become a cobiner torso looked the same so I couldnt expect too much.
When will Hasbro admit they're doing that just for nostalgia's sake?
I was thinking the same thing. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Posted by GuyIncognito on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:46pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:52pm CST
Posted by shajaki on December 5th, 2014 @ 12:55pm CST
though im surprised theres no pics of him in torso mode. this guy has given us arm and leg shots for the other guys so far hasnt he?
Posted by Evil Eye on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:11pm CST
That aside though he looks cool. A good idea for a Shapeways kit for this guy would be some clip-on armour/boosters that make his underside kibble look more like a set of boosters/FAST pack. Shouldn't be too difficult- just give him a few intakes, panels, boosters and such and it should look much better. If someone were to do the same to the TFC Silverbolt I'd buy it.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:11pm CST
I know why that is, because his arms are his legs in torso mode. It just looks like every day is arm day.
Posted by shockblast2 on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:18pm CST
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:23pm CST
shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
Pages are out of order in the pack-in comics. For the correct order, go pick up More than Meets the Eye #26 in Tankor's case.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:26pm CST
For some reason, every copy of the comic issue that was packed with the Tankor toy was printed with its pages horrendously out of order. The pages are fine in the original non-toy printing, but no one really knows what happened with the toy pack-in version.shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
Posted by pie-man on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:29pm CST
Early days, but I wonder if there's any chance of seeing an updated Prowl & the Constructicons in the Combiner Wars line.
Posted by shockblast2 on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:35pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:For some reason, every copy of the comic issue that was packed with the Tankor toy was printed with its pages horrendously out of order. The pages are fine in the original non-toy printing, but no one really knows what happened with the toy pack-in version.shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
I wondered what hell happened......
Can you fill me in briefly? How did they get the ship back together or how did they get out of Metroplex without the ship?
Posted by Sabrblade on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:39pm CST
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/No_Exit:_Dark_Cybertron_Chapter_6shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:For some reason, every copy of the comic issue that was packed with the Tankor toy was printed with its pages horrendously out of order. The pages are fine in the original non-toy printing, but no one really knows what happened with the toy pack-in version.shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
I wondered what hell happened......
Can you fill me in briefly? How did they get the ship back together or how did they get out of Metroplex without the ship?
Posted by shockblast2 on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:53pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/No_Exit:_Dark_Cybertron_Chapter_6shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:For some reason, every copy of the comic issue that was packed with the Tankor toy was printed with its pages horrendously out of order. The pages are fine in the original non-toy printing, but no one really knows what happened with the toy pack-in version.shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
I wondered what hell happened......
Can you fill me in briefly? How did they get the ship back together or how did they get out of Metroplex without the ship?
Even better. Thanks Sabre!
Posted by shockblast2 on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Quick question guys
I bought the Generations Tankor and have been reading the Dark Cybertron storyline therein. In the issue with the aforementioned figure, there is a part where Ultra Magnus and Co are traveling through Metroplex and they decide to get out and look for something. They do, and end up in a big circle back where they came from. It is then revelaed that one of the minicons had seemingly planted a bomb on their escape pod/ship, and proceeded to blow it up. Then, a few panels later, they were crusing along int he ship like nothing happened?
WTF?
Pages are out of order in the pack-in comics. For the correct order, go pick up More than Meets the Eye #26 in Tankor's case.
Thanks for the help!
Posted by mblase75 on December 5th, 2014 @ 1:59pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:07pm CST
mblase75 wrote:Why are we not talking about the fact that Drag Strip has apparently been drafted into the Aerialbots?
Because he isn't? Drag Strip is still a Stunticon but he'll be in the same wave as the 4 Aerialbots shown. The packaging just illustrates you can mix-and-match, and can make a giant with any 4 limbs of any sub-group.
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:13pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:16pm CST
Well, yeah, but that's because Optimus is in this wave too, so both Voyagers use the same limbs on their packaging to advertise the combiner gimmick with the specific Deluxe toys that will be concurrently available with the two Voyagers.william-james88 wrote:Holy SH!T, I hadnt even noticed that. That makes this the same configuration as Ultra Prime.
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by Robogeek1973 on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:22pm CST
I haven't decided if that's a good thing or not yet.
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:40pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Well that makes sense considering he's the other voyager released in this wave. Plus it wouldn't make sense to advertise an arialbot that isn't out yet.
Wait a sec, they arent releasing all the aerialbots in wave one?!?!?!?!!?
The wait for an updated Superion is killing me enough as it is, I dont know how I will be if I have a superion missing one limb for months!
Posted by Cobotron on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:43pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well that makes sense considering he's the other voyager released in this wave. Plus it wouldn't make sense to advertise an arialbot that isn't out yet.
Wait a sec, they arent releasing all the aerialbots in wave one?!?!?!?!!?
The wait for an updated Superion is killing me enough as it is, I dont know how I will be if I have a superion missing one limb for months!
He won't. you can get Dragstrip as a fill in.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 5th, 2014 @ 2:57pm CST
Legends Wave 1
Bombshell
Powerglide
Thundercracker
Windcharger
Legends Wave 2
Decepticon Blackjack
Huffer
Deluxe Wave 1
Alpha Bravo
Decepticon Dragstrip
Firefly
Skydive
Deluxe Wave 2
Air Raid
Breakdown
Dead End
Decepticon Offroad
Voyager Wave 1
Optimus Prime
Silverbolt
Voyager Wave 1.5/2
Motormaster
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:02pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:09pm CST
2010
2014/15
Posted by Syn_13 on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:11pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well that makes sense considering he's the other voyager released in this wave. Plus it wouldn't make sense to advertise an arialbot that isn't out yet.
Wait a sec, they arent releasing all the aerialbots in wave one?!?!?!?!!?
The wait for an updated Superion is killing me enough as it is, I dont know how I will be if I have a superion missing one limb for months!
Yeah, it's going to frustrate me too. I'm not really digging Menasor, he just looks weird with his wide chest and the head sculpt looks poor.
They're not giving you the full set for two main reason. They want to keep you invested in the line, so you end up buying Dragstrip just as a filler until you wait for Air Raid, and then since you have Dragstrip you decide to get the full Stunticon set. Second reason is that they're doing it to promote the whole chop and change gimmick, which I'm really not interested in. Don't want my Superion with a Stunticon arm, or a Menasor with Prime as the chest.
I'm just going to buy them as they come out and pose them individually until the set is complete. After that they'll be in combined mode for 99% of the time anyway.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:12pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 5th, 2014 @ 3:18pm CST
I love the scramble-city style action they got going on, especially since some of the characters may be on different sides in the comics which is were I'll be basing my collection on.