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Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown

Transformers News: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown

Wednesday, May 13th, 2015 10:22PM CDT

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In a couple of tweets from Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye artist Alex Milne gives us additional looks at Thunderclash's ship the Vis Vitalis and Countdown. Both will be featured in the upcoming Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye #41 comic which if you missed the preview, it can be seen here.

Transformers News: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown

Transformers News: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown
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Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685320)
Posted by Deadput on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
Lol at the fact that Countdown is introduced and killed on the same page just wow.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685325)
Posted by Grahf_ on May 13th, 2015 @ 11:18pm CDT
That ship reminds me of a combination of the Yggdrasil IV from Xenogears, the Ptolemaios from Gundam 00 and the SDF1 from Robotech.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685361)
Posted by Wolfguard on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:00am CDT
"I want that ship, not excuses."

I would totally buy this if they sold it for WST.


:BOT:
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685380)
Posted by durroth on May 14th, 2015 @ 4:46am CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Lol at the fact that Countdown is introduced and killed on the same page just wow.
Lets be fair, it's not shown what happens, just implied. We have no proof that was... :-? ... :saint: ... 8) the final Countdown 8)
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685409)
Posted by MrBlack on May 14th, 2015 @ 6:57am CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Great googly moogly were being invaded.





Nothing wrong with females just weird to me how they just suddenly show up in doves.

:roll:

"Eww, girls are icky! Keep them out of my fightin' robot comics!"
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685412)
Posted by MrBlack on May 14th, 2015 @ 7:02am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Why are people getting so emotional over a character with almost zero history and appeared very little in one issue?

Oooooooooooh right. He's being written by James Roberts. Apparently that's all that's needed.




Cause Thunderclash is love Thunderclash is life?




But in all seriousness Thunderclash had quite a bit of history even if he has only appeared in one issue other characters talk about Thunderclash enough to have some history.




And that James Roberts comment was just rude we the readers are not that bias.


It's true though. The preview of 39 with the introduction of Nickel before the issue came out and people just gushed over her. All she did was nag in the preview and the boards were screaming "SO CUTE! "NEW FAV CHARACTER!" "I LOVE NICKEL!" Cmon, if she had shown up in any other book she wouldn't get that much praise. D.O.C. showed in in a preview of RID with Jetfire and no one cared. That can even be said for the DJD in general. Characterless, over powered empty shells yet people scratch and claw over them praying for hasbro or third parties to make toys all because they're in mtmte and are Roberts babies.

If roberts introduces a twig and has tailgate snap it, tumblr will cry out and start dissecting the signifigance and deep meaning of what the twig meant.

In all fairness to John Barber, James Roberts did a far better job in making Nickel an interesting character in a few pages than Barber has done in all of D.O.C.'s appearances. Same for the DJD, or at least Tarn: Roberts made him a compelling character.

There is a reason people like James Roberts, even if you don't see it.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685418)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 14th, 2015 @ 7:44am CDT
Va'al wrote:We've seen the Alex Milne cover for the 41st issue of Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye from IDW Publishing - how about we look at what's inside, too? Courtesy of Mariel Romero's screenshooting, we have a glimpse at the first three pages via iTunes. Check them out mirrored below - but be warned, there may be spoilers for the issue!

“Dear RODIMUS and crew… It’s my funeral tomorrow and I’d love it if you could all be there. Refreshments will be provided. Please R.S.V.P.—THUNDERCLASH”


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Brainstorm is back? I thought he was like arrested or something for trying to change history?
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685420)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on May 14th, 2015 @ 7:51am CDT
Oh goodness, this is a bit absurd. Not the Bots, the reactions.

I don't understand why boys have such a knee jerk reaction to girls in the TF world. We're not going to give you cooties (or cyber cooties in the case of the Bots)

As long as they aren't GiggleBots I'll be happy. I'd like more strong female characters (our girls need to grow up knowing it's okay to not like MLP and instead like giant alien robots, and be able to identify with the characters, just please refrain from airhead dimwits, Mr Roberts, I have faith you can write a good solid female character...)

I'd like to see more female oriented Cons... besides the angry bitch stereotypes (we can evil without being unexplainably angry and b****y)


Not a fan of the fire hair...
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685428)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 14th, 2015 @ 8:14am CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:Oh goodness, this is a bit absurd. Not the Bots, the reactions.

I don't understand why boys have such a knee jerk reaction to girls in the TF world. We're not going to give you cooties (or cyber cooties in the case of the Bots)

As long as they aren't GiggleBots I'll be happy. I'd like more strong female characters (our girls need to grow up knowing it's okay to not like MLP and instead like giant alien robots, and be able to identify with the characters, just please refrain from airhead dimwits, Mr Roberts, I have faith you can write a good solid female character...)

I'd like to see more female oriented Cons... besides the angry **** stereotypes (we can evil without being unexplainably angry and b****y)


Not a fan of the fire hair...


Missing the point entirely.

Females have been established to be a rarity on cybertron. Yes, there used to be lots but they left with the other colonies.

My point is not that there are females, my point is that it's established that they are being reintroduced to cybertronian civilization. To suddenly have female characters appear along side cybertronians as if they were always there is the problem. Fire star should be someone who just signed on. Not someone very familiar with Thunderclash and his generals. I mean it's possible, but it seems unlikely that we wouldn't see her before now, given their rarity.

Again, not about them being girls, but rather sticking with continuity. Roberts probably has it taken care of, he's good with that.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685440)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on May 14th, 2015 @ 9:00am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:Oh goodness, this is a bit absurd. Not the Bots, the reactions.

I don't understand why boys have such a knee jerk reaction to girls in the TF world. We're not going to give you cooties (or cyber cooties in the case of the Bots)

As long as they aren't GiggleBots I'll be happy. I'd like more strong female characters (our girls need to grow up knowing it's okay to not like MLP and instead like giant alien robots, and be able to identify with the characters, just please refrain from airhead dimwits, Mr Roberts, I have faith you can write a good solid female character...)

I'd like to see more female oriented Cons... besides the angry **** stereotypes (we can evil without being unexplainably angry and b****y)


Not a fan of the fire hair...


Missing the point entirely.

Females have been established to be a rarity on cybertron. Yes, there used to be lots but they left with the other colonies.

My point is not that there are females, my point is that it's established that they are being reintroduced to cybertronian civilization. To suddenly have female characters appear along side cybertronians as if they were always there is the problem. Fire star should be someone who just signed on. Not someone very familiar with Thunderclash and his generals. I mean it's possible, but it seems unlikely that we wouldn't see her before now, given their rarity.

Again, not about them being girls, but rather sticking with continuity. Roberts probably has it taken care of, he's good with that.


Actually, I get your point completely.

But Windblade, Chromia, and Nautica established that Thunderclash had contact with female bots, so the appearance of more when coming into contact with Thunderclash isn't a far stretch.

I'm not sold on the Sea of Rust girl combiner team, though that one is easy to explain away, but connecting the dots with the space ship faring, planet hopping, Bot is pretty simple.

Now if all the sudden chick's were popping up hanging on Rodimus' arm on the Lost Light, that would be a WTF? NO! Moment
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685522)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 14th, 2015 @ 12:10pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:Oh goodness, this is a bit absurd. Not the Bots, the reactions.

I don't understand why boys have such a knee jerk reaction to girls in the TF world. We're not going to give you cooties (or cyber cooties in the case of the Bots)

As long as they aren't GiggleBots I'll be happy. I'd like more strong female characters (our girls need to grow up knowing it's okay to not like MLP and instead like giant alien robots, and be able to identify with the characters, just please refrain from airhead dimwits, Mr Roberts, I have faith you can write a good solid female character...)

I'd like to see more female oriented Cons... besides the angry **** stereotypes (we can evil without being unexplainably angry and b****y)


Not a fan of the fire hair...


Missing the point entirely.

Females have been established to be a rarity on cybertron. Yes, there used to be lots but they left with the other colonies.

My point is not that there are females, my point is that it's established that they are being reintroduced to cybertronian civilization. To suddenly have female characters appear along side cybertronians as if they were always there is the problem. Fire star should be someone who just signed on. Not someone very familiar with Thunderclash and his generals. I mean it's possible, but it seems unlikely that we wouldn't see her before now, given their rarity.

Again, not about them being girls, but rather sticking with continuity. Roberts probably has it taken care of, he's good with that.


Actually, I get your point completely.

But Windblade, Chromia, and Nautica established that Thunderclash had contact with female bots, so the appearance of more when coming into contact with Thunderclash isn't a far stretch.

I'm not sold on the Sea of Rust girl combiner team, though that one is easy to explain away, but connecting the dots with the space ship faring, planet hopping, Bot is pretty simple.

Now if all the sudden chick's were popping up hanging on Rodimus' arm on the Lost Light, that would be a WTF? NO! Moment


Ok, now that you mention it I do remember that. That's really my only issue with it so I withdraw my criticism. I'm actually happy we are seeing more female characters and if fire star didn't have that stupid fire hair I'd think she was a great design.

An
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685536)
Posted by ScottyP on May 14th, 2015 @ 12:32pm CDT
I'm diggin' the fire "hair". I think it's a super creative design and helps set Firestar apart, design-wise, from being too "girl-Rodimus" or "Rodimus Colored Arcee" in appearance.

Also, I just love the update to Countdown's look. He was definitely one of my favorite self-defined toy characters as a kid, although I have this fear he's going to get super-murdered rather quickly. Actually, I have that fear for almost every character introduced in this book :lol:
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685588)
Posted by Syn_13 on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:08pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:Oh goodness, this is a bit absurd. Not the Bots, the reactions.

I don't understand why boys have such a knee jerk reaction to girls in the TF world. We're not going to give you cooties (or cyber cooties in the case of the Bots)

As long as they aren't GiggleBots I'll be happy. I'd like more strong female characters (our girls need to grow up knowing it's okay to not like MLP and instead like giant alien robots, and be able to identify with the characters, just please refrain from airhead dimwits, Mr Roberts, I have faith you can write a good solid female character...)

I'd like to see more female oriented Cons... besides the angry **** stereotypes (we can evil without being unexplainably angry and b****y)


Not a fan of the fire hair...


Missing the point entirely.

Females have been established to be a rarity on cybertron. Yes, there used to be lots but they left with the other colonies.

My point is not that there are females, my point is that it's established that they are being reintroduced to cybertronian civilization. To suddenly have female characters appear along side cybertronians as if they were always there is the problem. Fire star should be someone who just signed on. Not someone very familiar with Thunderclash and his generals. I mean it's possible, but it seems unlikely that we wouldn't see her before now, given their rarity.

Again, not about them being girls, but rather sticking with continuity. Roberts probably has it taken care of, he's good with that.


I'm not exactly getting the impression that Firestar has been around the whole time, from reading this panel. It doesn't suggest anywhere that Firestar has been on the Vis Vitalis for a considerable length of time. In Dark Cybertron it was mentioned that Nautica, Chromia and Windblade left Caminus when Thunderclash found them. I have a feeling Roberts is going to expand upon that and include these newly introduced Camiens as others that joined the crew of the Vis Vitalis. The fact that the cover looks like a reunion celebration suggests this. I think Season 2 kicked off 6 months after Dark Cybertron, so it's probably at least a year on from then now, long enough for the fembots to be considered part of the Vis Vitalis crew.

As for the flame hair...I neither love it nor hate it, but think it's stupid that people are trying to justify why a transforming robot from outer space needs to justify anything really. I read these comics for fun, not to scrutinise them.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685601)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 14th, 2015 @ 2:43pm CDT
Yup, looks like they'll form Victorion, I do wonder however which molds will get redecoed/retooled, only Firefly and maaaybe Dragstrip look feminine enough to fit these.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685644)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:44pm CDT
Why does the Vis Vitalis have Nova's deco .__.
And ignore my previous post, Sabrblade said it was confirmed they won't be the Fan built combiner
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685646)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 14th, 2015 @ 3:45pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Yup, looks like they'll form Victorion, I do wonder however which molds will get redecoed/retooled, only Firefly and maaaybe Dragstrip look feminine enough to fit these.


Um if we can have a nautica and a Elita one eventually I will be so happy.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685672)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 14th, 2015 @ 4:41pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Why does the Vis Vitalis have Nova's deco .__.
And ignore my previous post, Sabrblade said it was confirmed they won't be the Fan built combiner



Well. Shoot.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685675)
Posted by durroth on May 14th, 2015 @ 4:47pm CDT
... im very upset I didn't even get a pained groan from that joke
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685682)
Posted by Optimizzy on May 14th, 2015 @ 5:18pm CDT
durroth wrote:... im very upset I didn't even get a pained groan from that joke



I didn't catch it because of the spoiler (on my phone).

But , yeah. I loled.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1685809)
Posted by Deadput on May 14th, 2015 @ 10:54pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Great googly moogly were being invaded.





Nothing wrong with females just weird to me how they just suddenly show up in doves.

:roll:

"Eww, girls are icky! Keep them out of my fightin' robot comics!"




How many times do I have to say it?





I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THE GOD DAMN FEMBOTS!





I'm stating on how weird it is that they suddenly show up in dozens when there were no fembots in the comics before and being said explicitly that Cybertronians were genderless.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687562)
Posted by MrBlack on May 19th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
MrBlack wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Great googly moogly were being invaded.





Nothing wrong with females just weird to me how they just suddenly show up in doves.

:roll:

"Eww, girls are icky! Keep them out of my fightin' robot comics!"




How many times do I have to say it?





I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THE GOD DAMN FEMBOTS!





I'm stating on how weird it is that they suddenly show up in dozens when there were no fembots in the comics before and being said explicitly that Cybertronians were genderless.

And, as many folks here have pointed out, it makes sense given that Cybertron has recently made contact with Caminus, which does have gender. It's pretty clear these bots are Camiens, given the "reunion" cover with Nautica.

My post was a reaction to some of your past comments as well, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt moving forward.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687630)
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2015 @ 6:09pm CDT
Rachel Stevens over at Women Write About Comics is back at her interview tactics, and was able tohave a conversation with fan-favourite Canadian and style setter on the IDW Publishing Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye ongoing series. The conversation spans across media, tools, technical questions, past work and more, and includes some insights into the MTMTE cast - check out some snippets below, and the full piece here!

Who’s your favorite character to draw right now?

That’s a good question. [Pause] A tie between Skids & Nautica. I always liked to draw Skids since I got to design him for issue 2.

I also have a lot of fun drawing Nautica—right now I’m working on issue 42, which has them interacting, so I’m having a lot of fun drawing my two favorites in the same panel.

On the flip side, who’s the most difficult one to work on?

Ah, that’s a good question. [A lengthy pause, some muttering] Whoever I haven’t drawn a lot of in a long time is usually the hardest one to work on. I don’t know, sometimes the hardest one can be Ultra Magnus, just to make sure the scale’s right.
Ah, that makes sense.

Other times it can be Getaway. The hardest one I’ve ever had to draw, that I never feel like I get right, is Red Alert, but he’s not on the ship in season two, so I don’t have to worry about drawing him right now.

[...]

So, um, is there anything else you’d like to talk about that we haven’t touched on already?

Hmmm … well, I’m really happy for the inclusion of more female Transformers. Since the preview for issue 41 is out showing more female Transformers, I can only be happy about that. Over the years I snuck in female Transformers in backgrounds. Megatron Origin, the Drift miniseries in the Circle of Light (a faction of Transformers). They make the world bigger; the more the merrier. Now it’s better that I don’t have to sneak them in, and I’m like, “Yes, they’re there!” I’ve been rooting for them for eight years now; we need more!

That makes me really happy to hear, coming from you. Did you design Firestar’s flame hair, as seen in the issue 41 preview?

Yes, it was me who came up with Firestar’s hair. When designing characters, I ask myself, “How can i make interesting character designs?” I look at silhouettes, heads. What’s a standard head, what’s different?

l looked at different things; when I was designing her I designed her altmode first. I put her head in the altmode’s back as the exhaust. I asked myself, “Can I get away with fire for hair?” But since it’s the exhaust for the car, it kinda works. I thought about how’d it work for portraying different emotions. If knocked out, she’d have little blue flame or it’d be snuffed out. If enraged, her hair expands and just goes nuts. It’s a great way to show emotion.

I had the altmode and head design, took it to James, and said, “James, this is the idea.” He went, “That’s really cool! I have fire for hair [to work with].” It’s really different, and it makes her stand out among other characters.

Along with the other female Transformers, I started thinking about different designs that haven’t been done before. I’ve got to post them online so other people can see her. There’s a big female Transformer I want to show off, one who doesn’t have a standard head at all, but one singular eye. It was really fun to do. It’s just really fun to try new things, to see whats out there.

Transformers is all about change; you don’t have to be stuck to the standard. The big thing with Firestar was keeping in elements of the original design. When IDW started out with Transformers, they’d take a character and do something completely different; it’s how I did her design.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687665)
Posted by steve2275 on May 19th, 2015 @ 7:17pm CDT
funny how he said change since thats what transformers do :lol:
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687668)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 19th, 2015 @ 7:27pm CDT
steve2275 wrote:funny how he said change since thats what transformers do :lol:


No no no, they "convert".
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687685)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 19th, 2015 @ 8:30pm CDT
I love when the designs go beyond just looking cool and actually have so much thought into them, like it or not, Firestar's head design is unique.
Also, his views on the brand in general are those of someone that really cares about it, I'm glad he's part of the IDW team :)
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687729)
Posted by Deadput on May 19th, 2015 @ 9:39pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:
steve2275 wrote:funny how he said change since thats what transformers do :lol:


No no no, they "convert".



If your going to be specific they Transform.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1687777)
Posted by synapse on May 20th, 2015 @ 1:12am CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:his views on the brand in general are those of someone that really cares about it, I'm glad he's part of the IDW team :)


This.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1688920)
Posted by Va'al on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:32am CDT
Comics and entertainment website Newsarama have received their usual exclusive from IDW Publishing, allowing us to post our own full preview of next week's Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #41! Check it out below, though beware of some spoilers, and head back here next week for the Seibertron.com review.

Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #41
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
“Dear RODIMUS and crew… It’s my funeral tomorrow and I’d love it if you could all be there. Refreshments will be provided. Please R.S.V.P.—THUNDERCLASH”
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
The return of the greatest AUTOBOT hero of all time —THUNDERCLASH—which is great news!
But he’s dying—which is terrible news!
Variant Cover by Kotteri!


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Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1688927)
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 22nd, 2015 @ 10:52am CDT
Dammit Roberts! Why do you have to make me want a Nautica solo comic?!?!
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1688946)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 22nd, 2015 @ 11:40am CDT
Nautica: "what is that noose?"

Skids: "One thing's for sure; it can't be what I think it is."

Brainstorm: "That would be the sound of Getaway's brain module flummoxing."
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Posted by TGS1985 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:06pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Nautica: "what is that noose?"

Brainstorm: It's for Getaway. He just bet me double the Shanix he owes me that he could escape it while hanging before he runs out of breath!

Nautica: But we don't breath air, remember?

Brainstorm:...

;) :P
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1688961)
Posted by dragons on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:18pm CDT
Yeah dont get it comedy in movies bad, comedy in comics good for transformers fanss
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1688966)
Posted by TGS1985 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 12:26pm CDT
dragons wrote:Yeah dont get it comedy in movies bad, comedy in comics good for transformers fanss


Why rely to witty dialog like that in MTMTE when you can just use good old pee/balls/humping humor? /sarcasm
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Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 22nd, 2015 @ 1:00pm CDT
TGS1985 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Nautica: "what is that noose?"

Brainstorm: It's for Getaway. He just bet me double the Shanix he owes me that he could escape it while hanging before he runs out of breath!

Nautica: But we don't breath air, remember?

Brainstorm:...

;) :P

Skids: " #-o "
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689022)
Posted by Quint on May 22nd, 2015 @ 2:09pm CDT
"Imply", Nautica, not infer.

The speaker implies, the listener infers.

Pedantry always comes back to bite ya' >:oP
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Posted by Shuttershock on May 22nd, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689064)
Posted by datguy86 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?


If Ravage is one of Onyx Prime's people, I would imagine survival was due to hundreds of nanoscopic attention deflectors. :grin:
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689072)
Posted by Shuttershock on May 22nd, 2015 @ 3:51pm CDT
datguy86 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?


If Ravage is one of Onyx Prime's people, I would imagine survival was due to hundreds of nanoscopic attention deflectors. :grin:


Clever!

I guess that would explain Laserbeak and Buzzsaw as well.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689135)
Posted by Henry921 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:21pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:
datguy86 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?


If Ravage is one of Onyx Prime's people, I would imagine survival was due to hundreds of nanoscopic attention deflectors. :grin:


Clever!

I guess that would explain Laserbeak and Buzzsaw as well.



Impossible. Ravage was constructed cold.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689137)
Posted by Shuttershock on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:23pm CDT
Henry921 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
datguy86 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?


If Ravage is one of Onyx Prime's people, I would imagine survival was due to hundreds of nanoscopic attention deflectors. :grin:


Clever!

I guess that would explain Laserbeak and Buzzsaw as well.



Impossible. Ravage was constructed cold.


But then there's the question: Who would build a Cybertronian like that, and for what puropse? Espionage maybe, but seems bizarre for the era they existed in.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689140)
Posted by prjkt on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:24pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:That's kind of interesting about Ravage. Really, he and his kind feel like some of the last ambiguous mysteries of IDW Cybertron. Like, what function do they fall into? Are they forged that way or constructed cold? Are they remnants of Onyx Prime's people, and how did they avoid the implied purge during Nova's reign?

Ravage was affected by Tyrest's kill switch though, so he's a post Nova Prime ascendancy CC, I think Onyx' tribe will come to play in Windblade's comic, according to the August solicitations.

It'll be interesting to find out why a Ravage was made in the form he is... Maybe some senator wanted a pet? Or a tracker for hunting?
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1689144)
Posted by Henry921 on May 22nd, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
Based on Soundwave's flashback chapters in the Dark Cybertron prelude, Ravage was discussing why he left his previous job about trying to find a scrap of energon in a particularly perilous dark corner. It's not explicit, but if I could guess, I'd say smaller animalistic bots were created to perform menial tasks or reach areas larger Cybertronian underclass laborers couldn't.

I think the "master of stealth" aspect came later. When in doubt, the answer is probably: "Decepticon engineering."
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691003)
Posted by Va'al on May 27th, 2015 @ 6:09am CDT
Killer Moves
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
“Dear RODIMUS and crew… It’s my funeral tomorrow and I’d love it if you could all be there. Refreshments will be provided. Please R.S.V.P.—THUNDERCLASH”

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The situation is ..tense


Story

Switching away from Combiner Wars, and dipping a couple of weeks behind in the general timeline of the IDWverse, let us return to the Lost Light after Ratchet has left to go annoy/save/be annoyed by Drift. As they receive news that the Greatest Autobot That Ever Will Have Lived Alpha Bravo Thunderclash is currently at his final stretch, even with the Vis Vitalis life support.

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Alas, poor Thunders


The issue does some really clever things, in James Robert's script set-up to the pre-wake for Thunderclash aboard his ship - we are allowed another slice of life aboard the Lost Light, with its crew interacting, clashing, bumping into each other, just ..being there and letting their voices come to the fore and speak for themselves, and Nautica, Nightbeat and Getaway getting a little more of the spotlight.

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Where's Wall-E?


And, similarly, we get a round-up of the new characters aboard the Vis Vitalis, with new arrivals - though seemingly well established in the universe - Firestar and Velocity, plus some additional Camiens as revealed by Milne recently, playing into the wider universe of the Transformers at this stage. And how does characters clash and blend with our cast of misfitting egos.

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Not much of a spark, really


All of the dancing, all of the jealousies, all of the distractions and the emotions are not what the issue is all about, however. Two more threads run under the surface, showing the closer converging parallels of Rodimus and Megatron, and their personal issues with pretty much anything. And a deeper, darker stream still..

Art

It's always nice to see the return of a regular artist on a series, and Alex Milne does not disappoint with this issue, at all. We get new designs, multiple crowd scenes, new cast members some serious delving into body language and dynamic dance moves (willing or not) and - of course - some magnificent facial expressions for the people who *really* don't want anything to do with the whole wake do.

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Such joy


The addition of Joana Lafuente's colours, the element of continuity between the various artists we've had in the recent past, makes sure the party is going on both on the dancefloor and in the readers' eyes, with some great effects being played for the multiple characters and their emotional discordances or possible re-ignitions - depending on how whose side you might want to take.

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Floored


Tom B. Long is joined for the issue by fellow master letterer Chris Mowry, and with their powers combined, we can actually feel the voices and hear the music from Thudnerclash's pre-wake, along with the corridors, bars, cells and some of the emotions running high among the casts. Which are easily also found in the covers, with Milne and Josh Perez' Nautica and Camien victorious main piece, the thumbnailed Kotteri retail incentive (not depicting scenes in the issue, but rather Empire of Stone), and the triumphant Thunderclash memorial by Nick Roche and Josh Burcham.


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

This is not an issue to take as lightly as everything suggests we might want to. Yes, there are several lighthearted scenes, with a character focus and setting, playing on the multiple clashing egos of the cast and the new encounters (for the readers at least), and ensuring all characters are ..well, characters. They just are. With their quirks, personalities and voices.

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In space, no one can etc


At the same time, though, there's a deeper, creepier story coming out of the issue, and played on the sidelines of the general merriment of the Vis and Light - and one that brings us back to where MTMTE all started, again. Space horror, dark ships, and things lurking just beyond the happiness of the circle of casts shown in the light. Genre is genre is genre.

. :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: out of :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT:
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691013)
Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2015 @ 6:41am CDT
Not a huge fan of this issue to be honest. It just did nothing for me. Ive always enjoyed MTMTEs character development but never liked its pacing. With elegant chaos feeling like it tied up close to 75-80% of Roberts loose threads, I finally felt like "hey! We're gonna start actually working on the quest now!" And we are but it's gonna be slow and I'm really hoping it doesn't get bogged down by more drawn out subplots and this story is quest orientated I suppose. It just didn't wow me or catch my attention.

I will give Roberts this, he knows how to write girls as girls. Not to be critical to John or Margarite but Windblade, Chromia, and Arcee are women in name and appearance only. The female characters in this comic feel like female characters. They talk like girls and I give total props to that.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691017)
Posted by Jeen0808 on May 27th, 2015 @ 7:13am CDT
This issue was well and all, as a setup. But it kind of reminded me of something Ultra Magnus once said.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691019)
Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT
Jeen0808 wrote:This issue was well and all, as a setup. But it kind of reminded me of something Ultra Magnus once said.


Sure...except evenyone who is on a cover for this issue is featured in the comic.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691025)
Posted by pie-man on May 27th, 2015 @ 7:55am CDT
Its certainly an interesting issue, but seemed to me that it ended kinda abruptly. I know there have been some cliffhanger-esque endings recently (Brainstorm holding a gun at a half-built Megatron comes to mind), but this this issue seemed like a few pages short.

Great character interactions and all.... but also feel that all that dialogue slows pace of the issue. Interesting to see Ravage out and about and hanging out (sort of) with the rest of the crew.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691030)
Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2015 @ 8:13am CDT
pie-man wrote:Its certainly an interesting issue, but seemed to me that it ended kinda abruptly. I know there have been some cliffhanger-esque endings recently (Brainstorm holding a gun at a half-built Megatron comes to mind), but this this issue seemed like a few pages short.

Great character interactions and all.... but also feel that all that dialogue slows pace of the issue. Interesting to see Ravage out and about and hanging out (sort of) with the rest of the crew.


I totally agree. It feels like nothing happened but a lot did. It's hard to follow up elegant chaos and the last two because of how emotional the past 5 months of MTMTE has been.

Personally I think it has to do with this is all centered around thunderclash, a character that literally had done nothing in IDW expect for being told how amazing he is. I have no attachment to him and if people do that's fine I guess. Maybe if I read what fun pub has done because that's the only history he has.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691031)
Posted by ScottyP on May 27th, 2015 @ 8:14am CDT
This is one of those "won't notice it was a whole issue in the trade" but "too slow to be super enjoyable as a stand alone" to me. Loved the character development but not much of anything else really seemed to go anywhere, and the cliffhanger feels repetitive. Haven't we done robo-zombies/mini-scraplets/etc/etc a couple times now?

Disclaimer: these are still nit-picks, and probably only coming out due to how phenomenally good 39 and 40 were.
Re: Alex Milne Tweets Addtional Looks at Thunderclash's the Vis Vitalis and Countdown (1691032)
Posted by Randomhero on May 27th, 2015 @ 8:14am CDT
pie-man wrote:Its certainly an interesting issue, but seemed to me that it ended kinda abruptly. I know there have been some cliffhanger-esque endings recently (Brainstorm holding a gun at a half-built Megatron comes to mind), but this this issue seemed like a few pages short.

Great character interactions and all.... but also feel that all that dialogue slows pace of the issue. Interesting to see Ravage out and about and hanging out (sort of) with the rest of the crew.

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