Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022
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Take this one with a grain of salt please. It has been stated by someone in the know that we could be getting an Alpha Trion and Orion Pax two pack next year. It was said to be the SDCC exclusive. While that's all that was said, it can be easy to guess what molds could be used if this did come to pass. With a nice new Kup mold in the SS86 line, an Orion Pax redeco should be right around the corner. As for Alpha Trion, some have guessed the Scourge mold which would fit. We really don't know more than this, but we wanted to share this rumour with you. To give you an idea of what the colour placement would be on the SS 86 Kup figure, here is a digi bash from Cryptic on Twitter.
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Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122396)
Posted by Randomhero on December 2nd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 2nd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122400)
Posted by Munkky on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:17am CST
Posted by Munkky on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:17am CST
I'd be down for a new Alpha Trion, and I've never owned a version of the Scourge mould but have heard great things about it. Orion I can take or leave, he would probably end up on the "Didn't really want it but it was in a twin-pack with someone I did want" pile with Lifeline and Maximal Skywarp.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122404)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:59am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:59am CST
Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.
Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122409)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:36am CST
Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:36am CST
Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122410)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:51am CST
This right here... It happens all over too..
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:51am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
This right here... It happens all over too..
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122414)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:47am CST
I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:47am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122415)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:42am CST
Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.
Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:42am CST
sol magnus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.
I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.
Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122422)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 12:10pm CST
It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 12:10pm CST
Cyber Bishop wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
This right here... It happens all over too..
It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122429)
Posted by TK415 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:05pm CST
Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!
Posted by TK415 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:05pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.
Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:
Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:
- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122451)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:09pm CST
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:09pm CST
I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation & plastic quality. So Orion Pax is a big miss for me, that mold is just not worth double dipping on.
I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.
I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122470)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:04pm CST
This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:04pm CST
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.
Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122473)
Posted by TulioDude on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:25pm CST
Posted by TulioDude on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:25pm CST
I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122475)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:47pm CST
Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:47pm CST
Thrilling 30 doesn't count IMO, ESPECIALLY if you're going for the G1 cartoon. And PotP... while that would be ideal since it's the actual cartoon Orion Pax robot mode, I don't know that they'd be able to sell the Orion Pax part standalone. And I somehow doubt they'd do either a full Leader or a brand-new standalone Orion mold as part of a 2-pack like this.TulioDude wrote:I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?
Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122478)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:15pm CST
I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.
So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:15pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
This is Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe, as far as existing bodies go.
The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.
So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122483)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:39pm CST
I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.
I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:39pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.
I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122484)
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
The plastic type they used for Gen (T30) Orion Pax was pretty bad. very light with breakage points at the some hinges. I liked the look (especially in car mode) but that toy will not be missed by me.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122492)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 3rd, 2021 @ 11:53pm CST
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Posted by Sabrblade on December 3rd, 2021 @ 11:53pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122498)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 6:53am CST
Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.
However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 6:53am CST
Faulty memory, that's why; I was getting it mixed up with the WFC Optimus from 2010. My bad.Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122503)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:09am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:09am CST
Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122504)
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:12am CST
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:12am CST
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122505)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:14am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:14am CST
I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122506)
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:26am CST
That's why I asked, because it wasn't clear to me which you meant based on your wording. I can understand that sentence in two different ways, as I laid out.
Had I written what you said I would have said "IDW went with 'Orion Pax as an archivist' too probably because it's his standard backstory now" emphasizing that they are using that backstory, with the conjecture secondary to the idea. And mind you, I'm not criticizing, just seeking clarity based on how a sentence can be interpreted more than one way in the English language.
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:26am CST
Sabrblade wrote:I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
That's why I asked, because it wasn't clear to me which you meant based on your wording. I can understand that sentence in two different ways, as I laid out.
Had I written what you said I would have said "IDW went with 'Orion Pax as an archivist' too probably because it's his standard backstory now" emphasizing that they are using that backstory, with the conjecture secondary to the idea. And mind you, I'm not criticizing, just seeking clarity based on how a sentence can be interpreted more than one way in the English language.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122518)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:04pm CST
2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:04pm CST
1. Oops, got mixed up again.Sabrblade wrote:Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122522)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CST
Recent years have shown Hasbro wanting a sense of consistency across the board (Cyberverse season 1 having Bumblebee amnesiac and radio-speaking to align with the Bumblebee movie, the Allspark being launched from Cybertron in both it and the Netflix WFCT cartoon, other elements from the movies and Aligned in both cartoons and the recent comics) in order to give Transformers a more definitive identity like other properties over the years have had (e.g. - the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents spur him to become Batman, the guilt over Uncle Ben's murder spurs Peter Parker to become Spider-Man, the baby Kal-El is sent to Earth from a dying Krypton to become Superman, Steve Rogers becomes Captain America in WWII and awakens in the modern day after being frozen in ice for years, etc.).
Of course, each medium is still free to choose their own direction and details that greatly differ from each other (Ascenticons are IDW2-original, Maximals and Predacons ruled by Galvatron and Optimus-turned-evil Nemesis Prime in an alternate "bad ending" future is Netflix-original, Quintessons as multiversal judges is Cyberverse-original, etc.) so long as the broad strokes remain the same (Optimus was Orion Pax the archivist, Megatron was a miner-turned-gladiator-turned-political revolutionary, etc.).
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CST
Megatron as a gladiator was from Marvel UK (where Optimus and Sunstreaker were gladiators too). Dreamwave reiterated it, and then IDW added the miner bit. Aligned merged it all together and now it's his standard backstory.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh.
Recent years have shown Hasbro wanting a sense of consistency across the board (Cyberverse season 1 having Bumblebee amnesiac and radio-speaking to align with the Bumblebee movie, the Allspark being launched from Cybertron in both it and the Netflix WFCT cartoon, other elements from the movies and Aligned in both cartoons and the recent comics) in order to give Transformers a more definitive identity like other properties over the years have had (e.g. - the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents spur him to become Batman, the guilt over Uncle Ben's murder spurs Peter Parker to become Spider-Man, the baby Kal-El is sent to Earth from a dying Krypton to become Superman, Steve Rogers becomes Captain America in WWII and awakens in the modern day after being frozen in ice for years, etc.).
Of course, each medium is still free to choose their own direction and details that greatly differ from each other (Ascenticons are IDW2-original, Maximals and Predacons ruled by Galvatron and Optimus-turned-evil Nemesis Prime in an alternate "bad ending" future is Netflix-original, Quintessons as multiversal judges is Cyberverse-original, etc.) so long as the broad strokes remain the same (Optimus was Orion Pax the archivist, Megatron was a miner-turned-gladiator-turned-political revolutionary, etc.).
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123014)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 9th, 2021 @ 7:09pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 9th, 2021 @ 7:09pm CST
I never got T30 Orion, but I did get that mold as Leo Convoy, and I love that mold a lot. It is a ton of fun.
As for Orion Pax, I have PotP Optimus, that is all I need
As for Orion Pax, I have PotP Optimus, that is all I need
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123217)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 11th, 2021 @ 2:21pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 11th, 2021 @ 2:21pm CST
Also "Orion Pax" sounds much better than "Optronix" as well.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123920)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:11pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:11pm CST
Exclusives list courtesy of JTPrime, bolding the new info/confirmations:
Walmart: Velocitron line (Cosmos, Road Rocket, Armada Blurr, Burn-Out, Clampdown, Road Hauler, Override, Black Convoy)
Walgreens: Legacy Minerva
Target: Buzzworthy Legacy Silverstreak, Buzzworthy Legacy Multipack (Goldbug, Ransack, Paralyzer, Toy Scorponok), Buzzworthy Legacy Toy deco Terrorsaur, Buzzworthy Legacy Accessory Pack (Red Cog)
Amazon: Legacy Fractyl, Legacy Wreckers Impactor (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price), Legacy Wreckers Leadfoot, Legacy Wreckers Topspin (Saltman deco), Legacy Wreckers Twin Twist (Saltman deco), Legacy Bulkhead redeco, Legacy Springer (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price)
Hasbro Pulse: Legacy Pulsecon set (Orion Pax & Alpha Trion)
"Fan Channel": Legacy Selects Guard, Legacy Selects DK3, Legacy Selects Cyclonus' Armada, Legacy Beast Wars Buzzsaw, Legacy Beast Wars Sandstorm, Legacy Nightprowler, Selects Clampdown is now suspiciously absent
"Release venue unknown but they exist": Packrat, Antagony, Guardian Robot (remember that zoom & enhance image from Mark's desktop?)
And to top it all off, the Terrorsaur has a Target listing already:
Walmart: Velocitron line (Cosmos, Road Rocket, Armada Blurr, Burn-Out, Clampdown, Road Hauler, Override, Black Convoy)
Walgreens: Legacy Minerva
Target: Buzzworthy Legacy Silverstreak, Buzzworthy Legacy Multipack (Goldbug, Ransack, Paralyzer, Toy Scorponok), Buzzworthy Legacy Toy deco Terrorsaur, Buzzworthy Legacy Accessory Pack (Red Cog)
Amazon: Legacy Fractyl, Legacy Wreckers Impactor (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price), Legacy Wreckers Leadfoot, Legacy Wreckers Topspin (Saltman deco), Legacy Wreckers Twin Twist (Saltman deco), Legacy Bulkhead redeco, Legacy Springer (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price)
Hasbro Pulse: Legacy Pulsecon set (Orion Pax & Alpha Trion)
"Fan Channel": Legacy Selects Guard, Legacy Selects DK3, Legacy Selects Cyclonus' Armada, Legacy Beast Wars Buzzsaw, Legacy Beast Wars Sandstorm, Legacy Nightprowler, Selects Clampdown is now suspiciously absent
"Release venue unknown but they exist": Packrat, Antagony, Guardian Robot (remember that zoom & enhance image from Mark's desktop?)
And to top it all off, the Terrorsaur has a Target listing already:
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123923)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:20pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:20pm CST
I am SO all in and then some on modern updates of the 3H era BotCon Beast Wars characters. Gimme that Fractyl, Packrat, Antagony, and Sandstorm.
This news is especially good timing since I'm currently in the midst of giving a full overhaul to the Wiki's Beast Era timeline page, which includes all of the 3H BotCon stories that these characters starred in.[/shamelessplug]
This news is especially good timing since I'm currently in the midst of giving a full overhaul to the Wiki's Beast Era timeline page, which includes all of the 3H BotCon stories that these characters starred in.[/shamelessplug]
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123929)
Posted by Burn on December 25th, 2021 @ 1:07am CST
Posted by Burn on December 25th, 2021 @ 1:07am CST
So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123940)
Posted by sol magnus on December 25th, 2021 @ 9:09am CST
I only quoted you because I couldn't read the tiny text. I have no opinion on your opinion.
My opinion is, other than Cosmos, we couldn't get any other minibots?? Not even Gears?
I'll be playing pick and choose with this lineup, but there are some I'll be picking up.
Posted by sol magnus on December 25th, 2021 @ 9:09am CST
Burn wrote:So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
I only quoted you because I couldn't read the tiny text. I have no opinion on your opinion.
My opinion is, other than Cosmos, we couldn't get any other minibots?? Not even Gears?
I'll be playing pick and choose with this lineup, but there are some I'll be picking up.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123942)
Posted by o.supreme on December 25th, 2021 @ 10:24am CST
No hate here. I understand the frustration with the lineup. But I could kind of see it coming. Hasbro needs to get their money's worth from the new BW molds and recreating previous Botcon exclusives is a way to do it. None of these really interest me, I'll just patiently await some news of something I am interested in.
What I find odd is that they are doing even more retailer exclusives as opposed to Selects. I guess one can never tell anymore how something is going to get released.
Posted by o.supreme on December 25th, 2021 @ 10:24am CST
Burn wrote:So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
No hate here. I understand the frustration with the lineup. But I could kind of see it coming. Hasbro needs to get their money's worth from the new BW molds and recreating previous Botcon exclusives is a way to do it. None of these really interest me, I'll just patiently await some news of something I am interested in.
What I find odd is that they are doing even more retailer exclusives as opposed to Selects. I guess one can never tell anymore how something is going to get released.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123948)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:07pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:07pm CST
Not gonna lie, I'm surprised that the biggest critique people have of this list is that the characters aren't higher profile? Like, the biggest complaint from Earthrise was that allegedly high-profile G1 characters were exclusives and therefore hard-to-get, and early in this thread people weren't happy about Cosmos being exclusive, so people now wanting more Minibots and characters that require new molds as exclusives confuses me.
More details:
-Sandstorm allegedly has the mutant mask
-Nightprowler allegedly does NOT have the mutant mask, and is listed as a Deluxe so he will be from the Cheetor mold as opposed to Tigatron
-One of the accessories in the pack with the Red Cog is the arm blade Jetfire had in the WFC cartoon
More details:
-Sandstorm allegedly has the mutant mask
-Nightprowler allegedly does NOT have the mutant mask, and is listed as a Deluxe so he will be from the Cheetor mold as opposed to Tigatron
-One of the accessories in the pack with the Red Cog is the arm blade Jetfire had in the WFC cartoon
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123950)
Posted by sol magnus on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CST
I don't know who "people" are, but I don't care how we get minibots, exclusive or otherwise so long as we get them. Whoever the people complaining were, aren't me.
Posted by sol magnus on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Not gonna lie, I'm surprised that the biggest critique people have of this list is that the characters aren't higher profile? Like, the biggest complaint from Earthrise was that allegedly high-profile G1 characters were exclusives and therefore hard-to-get, and early in this thread people weren't happy about Cosmos being exclusive, so people now wanting more Minibots and characters that require new molds as exclusives confuses me.
More details:
-Sandstorm allegedly has the mutant mask
-Nightprowler allegedly does NOT have the mutant mask, and is listed as a Deluxe so he will be from the Cheetor mold as opposed to Tigatron
-One of the accessories in the pack with the Red Cog is the arm blade Jetfire had in the WFC cartoon
I don't know who "people" are, but I don't care how we get minibots, exclusive or otherwise so long as we get them. Whoever the people complaining were, aren't me.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123951)
Posted by o.supreme on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:29pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 25th, 2021 @ 2:29pm CST
I think there is by a difference. I enjoy obscure Japanese characters, and late Original series 1988-1992. However while some might consider Botcon characters also obscure, some consider them little more than fan fiction characters.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123956)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2021 @ 6:02pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2021 @ 6:02pm CST
Beast Wars was fanfiction.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123958)
Posted by MaximalNui on December 25th, 2021 @ 6:14pm CST
Posted by MaximalNui on December 25th, 2021 @ 6:14pm CST
Wonder if they'll mention the Zodiac in BW Sandstorm's bio.
...Heck, wonder if they'll make figures of the rest of the Zodiac at some point; they've been picking more obscure characters and alternate iterations each time. If anything, at least there's variety for the collectors.
Though hopefully not before proper Thirteen figures.
...Heck, wonder if they'll make figures of the rest of the Zodiac at some point; they've been picking more obscure characters and alternate iterations each time. If anything, at least there's variety for the collectors.
Though hopefully not before proper Thirteen figures.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123964)
Posted by Emerje on December 25th, 2021 @ 8:32pm CST
Posted by Emerje on December 25th, 2021 @ 8:32pm CST
I'll probably get most of the things from the list, might pass on some of the simpler repaints like BB Terrorsaur and Walmart Blurr if they aren't that much different from the original releases.
Cosmos is believed to be a retooled (or shared tool) Origins Bumblebee, right? Not sure how well that'll work...
Finally a proper red Cog to go with Grand Maximus! Now we just need a new Deluxe Scamper to finish off the city bots the right way.
All these Botcon repaints make me really wish we got Polar Claw in Kingdom, then we'd be hearing about Grizzly-1 and Survive repaints about now. I'd prefer PC and G-1 with the mutant head and Survive with the regular bot head.
Emerje
Cosmos is believed to be a retooled (or shared tool) Origins Bumblebee, right? Not sure how well that'll work...
Finally a proper red Cog to go with Grand Maximus! Now we just need a new Deluxe Scamper to finish off the city bots the right way.
All these Botcon repaints make me really wish we got Polar Claw in Kingdom, then we'd be hearing about Grizzly-1 and Survive repaints about now. I'd prefer PC and G-1 with the mutant head and Survive with the regular bot head.
Emerje
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123968)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2021 @ 9:41pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2021 @ 9:41pm CST
Grizzly-1's whole gimmick is that he uses both faces for each of his split-personalities, so ideally the mold should have one head with two faces front-and-back like the original, letting fans choose which face they'd like to use for each redeco while also keeping Grizzly-1's original character quirk intact.Emerje wrote:I'd prefer PC and G-1 with the mutant head and Survive with the regular bot head.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123976)
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 9:21am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 9:21am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123977)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 26th, 2021 @ 9:57am CST
Indeed. And by that logic, anything that is not the OG G1 Sunbow english cartoon is "fanfiction".
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 26th, 2021 @ 9:57am CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.
Indeed. And by that logic, anything that is not the OG G1 Sunbow english cartoon is "fanfiction".
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123979)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on December 26th, 2021 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by Till-all-R1 on December 26th, 2021 @ 12:09pm CST
Not much on that list really interests me other than Alpha Trion, I've always wanted a version that wasn't overly sized and goofy looking, specifically one that looked like his G1 appearance. Though I can see how it might be trouble to transform. What I don't care for is him being in a 2-pk with Orion Pax who I don't really care for. I don't know what molds they plan to utilize for these two figures but it has my interest piqued.
Also interested in the Buzzworthy multipack Goldbug and hope that it's the Walmart version painted gold!
So Cosmos is coming then? I'm not sure hw that would work either because those two are drastically different but I guess as long as he looks accurate a new version would be nice and keep me from paying over $30 for the Legends figure. The only issue is that he'll be out of scale with the other minibots I already have such as Seaspray, Beachcomber and potentially Powerglyde. If I ever pull the trigger on that purchase.
Unfortunately he's a Walmart Exclusive and I'm 1/whatever for actually getting it from Walmart, Elita-1 was that one and was easy. The others I had to get from ebay or Mercari.
Also interested in the Buzzworthy multipack Goldbug and hope that it's the Walmart version painted gold!
Emerje wrote:Cosmos is believed to be a retooled (or shared tool) Origins Bumblebee, right? Not sure how well that'll work...
Emerje
So Cosmos is coming then? I'm not sure hw that would work either because those two are drastically different but I guess as long as he looks accurate a new version would be nice and keep me from paying over $30 for the Legends figure. The only issue is that he'll be out of scale with the other minibots I already have such as Seaspray, Beachcomber and potentially Powerglyde. If I ever pull the trigger on that purchase.
Unfortunately he's a Walmart Exclusive and I'm 1/whatever for actually getting it from Walmart, Elita-1 was that one and was easy. The others I had to get from ebay or Mercari.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123980)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 26th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 26th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CST
Fair enough.sol magnus wrote:I don't know who "people" are, but I don't care how we get minibots, exclusive or otherwise so long as we get them. Whoever the people complaining were, aren't me.
Yeah I'm also interested in hearing what logic has led to this statement.-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.
Indeed. And by that logic, anything that is not the OG G1 Sunbow english cartoon is "fanfiction".
To be clear, Velocitron Blurr is supposed to be Armada Blurr, not a repaint/rerelease of the existing G1 Blurr, so people are speculating/assuming he'll share a mold with Legacy Pointblank.Emerje wrote:I'll probably get most of the things from the list, might pass on some of the simpler repaints like BB Terrorsaur and Walmart Blurr if they aren't that much different from the original releases.
SS86 Kup for Orion and SS86 Scourge for Trion.Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't know what molds they plan to utilize for these two figures but it has my interest piqued.
Actually the leakers have been insinuating that Cosmos will be a new mold that gets released as an exclusive LIKE Origins Bee, the Origins-Bee-retool idea is unfounded speculation so far solely based on "they're both UFOs".Till-all-R1 wrote:Emerje wrote:Cosmos is believed to be a retooled (or shared tool) Origins Bumblebee, right? Not sure how well that'll work...
Emerje
So Cosmos is coming then? I'm not sure hw that would work either because those two are drastically different but I guess as long as he looks accurate a new version would be nice and keep me from paying over $30 for the Legends figure.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123985)
Posted by Munkky on December 26th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CST
Posted by Munkky on December 26th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CST
Out of what is listed here, the only thing I'll definitely get is the Alpha Trion and Orion Pax twin pack and maybe Black Convoy and Minerva. I'll wait to see how Amazon's Springer and Bulkhead turn out before I decide to get them, if their decos are a HUGE improvement over the originals then I will, but if they're not that different I'll skip them.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2123993)
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 4:06pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 4:06pm CST
We thank Nemesis Primal and JT Prime for letting us know of this possible breakdown of exclusives. Some we know, but there are a few we did not like some of the Target and Amazon exclusives for the Legacy line.
Walmart: Velocitron line (Cosmos, Road Rocket, Armada Blurr, Burn-Out, Clampdown, Road Hauler, Override, Black Convoy)
Walgreens: Legacy Minerva
Target: Buzzworthy Legacy Silverstreak, Buzzworthy Legacy Multipack (Goldbug, Ransack, Paralyzer, Toy Scorponok), Buzzworthy Legacy Toy deco Terrorsaur, Buzzworthy Legacy Accessory Pack (Red Cog). We have a listing for this terrorsaur, pictured below.
Amazon: Legacy Fractyl, Legacy Wreckers Impactor (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price), Legacy Wreckers Leadfoot, Legacy Wreckers Topspin (Saltman deco), Legacy Wreckers Twin Twist (Saltman deco), Legacy Bulkhead redeco, Legacy Springer (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price)
Hasbro Pulse: Legacy Pulsecon set (Orion Pax & Alpha Trion)
Non exclusive selects releases: Legacy Selects Guard, Legacy Selects DK3, Legacy Selects Cyclonus' Armada, Legacy Beast Wars Buzzsaw, Legacy Beast Wars Sandstorm, Legacy Nightprowler,
Walmart: Velocitron line (Cosmos, Road Rocket, Armada Blurr, Burn-Out, Clampdown, Road Hauler, Override, Black Convoy)
Walgreens: Legacy Minerva
Target: Buzzworthy Legacy Silverstreak, Buzzworthy Legacy Multipack (Goldbug, Ransack, Paralyzer, Toy Scorponok), Buzzworthy Legacy Toy deco Terrorsaur, Buzzworthy Legacy Accessory Pack (Red Cog). We have a listing for this terrorsaur, pictured below.
Amazon: Legacy Fractyl, Legacy Wreckers Impactor (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price), Legacy Wreckers Leadfoot, Legacy Wreckers Topspin (Saltman deco), Legacy Wreckers Twin Twist (Saltman deco), Legacy Bulkhead redeco, Legacy Springer (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price)
Hasbro Pulse: Legacy Pulsecon set (Orion Pax & Alpha Trion)
Non exclusive selects releases: Legacy Selects Guard, Legacy Selects DK3, Legacy Selects Cyclonus' Armada, Legacy Beast Wars Buzzsaw, Legacy Beast Wars Sandstorm, Legacy Nightprowler,
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124003)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 26th, 2021 @ 5:04pm CST
Prepare to be disappointed as it'll probably be had Worlds Collide Bumblebee mold redecoed gold with a recoloured Shattered Glass Goldbug head....
Actually it'll just be a redecoed Shattered Glass Goldbug
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 26th, 2021 @ 5:04pm CST
Till-all-R1 wrote:
Also interested in the Buzzworthy multipack Goldbug and hope that it's the Walmart version painted gold!
Prepare to be disappointed as it'll probably be had Worlds Collide Bumblebee mold redecoed gold with a recoloured Shattered Glass Goldbug head....
Actually it'll just be a redecoed Shattered Glass Goldbug
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124006)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 26th, 2021 @ 5:34pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 26th, 2021 @ 5:34pm CST
Where does it say it'll be toy deco Terrorsaur? I don't see it.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124010)
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 6:21pm CST
It's in bold on the Target paragraph
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2021 @ 6:21pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Where does it say it'll be toy deco Terrorsaur? I don't see it.
It's in bold on the Target paragraph
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124011)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 26th, 2021 @ 6:37pm CST
If you're asking about the source, there isn't really any straight from Hasbro. It's more a "the most likely" kind of thing given there are two main versions of the original BW Terrorsaur toy: the show-colored Takara variant, and the original release.
Transformers Beast Wars Terrorsaur (Terrorsaurer) Gallery
If it is that, it'll fit nicely with the World Collide Blackarachnia.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 26th, 2021 @ 6:37pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Where does it say it'll be toy deco Terrorsaur? I don't see it.
If you're asking about the source, there isn't really any straight from Hasbro. It's more a "the most likely" kind of thing given there are two main versions of the original BW Terrorsaur toy: the show-colored Takara variant, and the original release.
Transformers Beast Wars Terrorsaur (Terrorsaurer) Gallery
If it is that, it'll fit nicely with the World Collide Blackarachnia.
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124013)
Posted by Flashwave on December 26th, 2021 @ 7:06pm CST
I guess this is a different enough deco of Terrorsaur? But its not diffrent enough to want to make me get this mold again. I will take a Fractyl though
Posted by Flashwave on December 26th, 2021 @ 7:06pm CST
I guess this is a different enough deco of Terrorsaur? But its not diffrent enough to want to make me get this mold again. I will take a Fractyl though
Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2124014)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 26th, 2021 @ 7:08pm CST
Nice alternative for those who missed the Golden Disk one.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 26th, 2021 @ 7:08pm CST
Flashwave wrote::???: I guess this is a different enough deco of Terrorsaur? But its not diffrent enough to want to make me get this mold again. I will take a Fractyl though
Nice alternative for those who missed the Golden Disk one.
