Asian Exclusive Classics Seekers Box Set?
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Posted by fenrir72 on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:57am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:05am CDT
Posted by Tigertrack on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:24am CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:30am CDT
I mean, the recent explosion of Knock-Offs of original 3rd party sculpts only makes an existing moral minefield even more tangled, but the official companies actually learning from 3rd parties and KO-meisters and incorporating their ideas into reissues wouldn't exactly be theft, but rather 2 wrongs making a right, right? Come on, masterpiece dino-combiner cassettes, don't let last year's s#!t-storm and sacrifice have been all for nothing...
Posted by PaxCybertron82 on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:33am CDT
I'd consider getting this just to keep them in the box, but it depends on price, which I can only assume will be astronomical.
Posted by triKlops on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:34am CDT
tigertracks 24 wrote:Cool idea. What might be cooler? The rainmakers, and or genericon seekerbots.
agreed on this!!
the set is pretty damn cool but that would be a kick up to the next level!
Posted by Powered Convoy on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:53am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I can imagine Skywarp and Ramjet possibly being redecos. The rest might just be straight re-releases of their previous Universe and Generations decos.
They all look like they're going to be heavily based on the cartoon.
Starscream - slightly different details and (likely) shades then the Henkei figure (no chrome?)
Thundercracker - slightly different details and (likely) shades then the Henkei figure (no chrome?)
Skywarp - different color purple, purple arm cannons (instead of partly black) and purple shoulders.
Ramjet - red wings like Henkei (presumably), all gray fists, white forearms, gray waist and upper legs. Presumably he'd have white feet.
Dirge - tan wings, all gray fists, gray forearms, gray waist and upper legs. Presumably his feet would be gray too (but that seems a bit unlikely due to the mold break down).
Thrust - I pray for white or silver wings. Based on the picture he has all gray fists, gray forearms, red waist and upper legs. His feet should be red but if his forearms are gray that might not be true.
All the coneheads look to have blue windows.
Randy
Posted by PaxCybertron82 on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:56am CDT
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 4th, 2012 @ 10:03am CDT
I doubt its popularity, since most collectors would at least have a few seekers already...
*My Seekers are all Knock Offs.*
Posted by datguy86 on October 4th, 2012 @ 10:12am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:05am CDT
Posted by FortMacs on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by Megatron000 on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:58am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Give us a Generation 2 Starscream
YES!!! Totally agree. G2 Starscream is one of my favorites
Posted by Mindmaster on October 4th, 2012 @ 12:42pm CDT
Posted by Powered Convoy on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:07pm CDT
ViperEye82 wrote:Where are you seeing these images?
I'm not, I'm making presumptions based on the art in this thread.
Posted by Blurrz on October 4th, 2012 @ 2:02pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:How do we know it's not just some really good fan art?
'Cause I admin Planet Iacon
Posted by gothsaurus on October 4th, 2012 @ 2:32pm CDT
Our G2 lineup could stand for a Starscream, since we already have a G2 Ramjet, Megatron, Prime, Jazz...
Oh yeah, and I'd love to see a mainstream G2 Classics Sideswipe release.
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 4th, 2012 @ 2:53pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:The G2 Starscream is a pretty solid match for that hot-pink USA version. The only thing it lacked was the camo stickers. Maybe ReproLabels will come through with some of those.
Our G2 lineup could stand for a Starscream, since we already have a G2 Ramjet, Megatron, Prime, Jazz...
Oh yeah, and I'd love to see a mainstream G2 Classics Sideswipe release.
He needs to have the white helmet and black face like the Pretender and Action Master had.
Posted by helli0n on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:23pm CDT
And you're right. comparing the three, ole G2 starscream does indeed have very white head sides and black face.
Cripes, I'm gonna repaint my Classics head to match... and do some camo wings.
Posted by NTESHFT on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:40pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:51pm CDT
Has/Tak: Do it!! Awesome eHobby or Botcon or TFCC set!!! Four new jets. Four new characters and bios to write.
Posted by XDMan on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:04pm CDT
Seekers, superior.
Endless Bumblebees, inferior.
Posted by r3devi7 on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:36pm CDT
Posted by Stormrider on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:25pm CDT
Wouldn't mind a set of generic purple/lavender Seekers as well. Hasbro's done troop builder multipacks in the GI Joe and Star Wars lines for years. Admittedly there are less opportunities in the TF franchise (the WFC and FOC games notwithstanding) but there are the plain Seekers, Rainmakers maybe, Junkions (c'mon, there's at least 3 head molds, knock up a couple more and get it on!) and maybe even Autotroopers in the form of the Universe Prowl mold, or RTS Jazz. A new Sharkticon wouldn't go amiss either.
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:56pm CDT
tigertracks 24 wrote:Cool idea. What might be cooler? The rainmakers, and or genericon seekerbots.
I'd take some of that. Like you say, this is a cool idea, but given the prevalence of this Seeker mold over the last few years how desirable would this set be? Chances are collectors are only missing one or two of these characters. Is it worth coughing up for all six? A Rainmakers set, add in Slipstream, Sunstorm and someone else and I'd be all over it.
Posted by Wh33l Jck on October 4th, 2012 @ 10:33pm CDT
I have the original 3 seekers, which I'm not proud to say are all KO's... actually my Henkei KO's look really good, and probably more cartoon accurate over the Hasbro versions.... however I'd love to own officials, and also I missed out on all 3 of the the Coneheads.
If I were to get these, 2 things would have to happen.
First they would have to be somehow more show accurate than the Henkei ones. My Scream looks good, but some of the paint apps throw it off a bit from the show. Secondly the price has to be right.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 4th, 2012 @ 10:35pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:17pm CDT
This would be a pretty cool set, if that's what it is. I already have all the figures, but this is heads and tails better than getting KOs. And it's good timing since said KOs aren't quite as prevelant as they used to be.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:18pm CDT
Posted by noctorro on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:52am CDT
Still haven't gotten the last 2 coneheads.
Posted by Seibertron on October 5th, 2012 @ 11:55am CDT
This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!
Posted by gothsaurus on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:25pm CDT
Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.
Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.
Posted by Seibertron on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:52pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.
Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.
Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.
Bruticus doesn't come close (though it's in the top 10).
I own 20 official Hasbro and Takara Tomy uses of the Starscream/Ramjet mold. Would love to get Sunstorm out of all of this one day.
If they had been really smart with this set, they would have done a cross set where it was Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp paired up with 3 new Seekers and a separate set with Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust along with Sunstorm and 2 others.
Posted by Mindmaster on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:53pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.
This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!
I wouldn't say they're used that much.
And if they are used that much, it is a pretty cool mold, in their defense.
Posted by Seibertron on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:54pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Seibertron wrote:Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.
This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!
I wouldn't say they're used that much.
And if they are used that much, it is a pretty cool mold, in their defense.
They're definitely used that much. Check out the picture that I posted in my previous post.
Seibertron wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.
Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.
Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.
Bruticus doesn't come close (though it's in the top 10).
I own 20 official Hasbro and Takara Tomy uses of the Starscream/Ramjet mold. Would love to get Sunstorm out of all of this one day.
If they had been really smart with this set, they would have done a cross set where it was Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp paired up with 3 new Seekers and a separate set with Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust along with Sunstorm and 2 others.
I can't help but think that Sunstorm would be a PERFECT choice for the Transformers Collectors' Club Subscription Service. Make it happen TCC!
Posted by kirbenvost on October 5th, 2012 @ 1:45pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?
You get them earlier I guess?
I dunno, I personally hate exclusives, it's just an excuse to charge three times the price for the same amount of plastic.
As for this set, it's still cool for those that want it. I definitely don't need it. Judging by the pic it looks like the original three are based on their Henkei paint jobs but without the chrome.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 5th, 2012 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on October 5th, 2012 @ 10:21pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 6th, 2012 @ 6:08pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 6th, 2012 @ 6:31pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?
Well you exclusivly get to own it for at least two years before everyone else gets it.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 6th, 2012 @ 9:39pm CDT
Still, I think G2 Ramjet and AM Thundercracker worked out really well. I'd be on board for a Pretender Starscream variant (if taken literally the deco is pretty dissimilar to his regular one).The Rainmakers may make decent exclucives too. But the problem with them is that CHMS beat them to the ounch, so who'd want to pay exclucive prices for the same essential thing? I mean, other than me?
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 7th, 2012 @ 7:01pm CDT
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 8th, 2012 @ 6:50am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:Start talking Sunstorm, the remaining Rainmakers and generic seekers. Otherwise, GTFO. We've had multiple opportunities for each seeker now. Time to make what hasn't been done already.
That seems to be the exact point of the Asia premium line.
Slightly repainted Bruticus? Slightly chromey Magnus? Striker prime with buster's colours (Okay, this one's cool, just... expensive)?
Seems like they are just making minor repaints to the same exact character that has been previously released. But something like the seekers already have loads of releases, like you said, so I can't imagine this selling well.
They should just make Toxitron from RTS Prime... That way I'll actually buy something.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 8th, 2012 @ 9:14am CDT
So now, some five years later (?) — and after KOToys wiped the floor with them — you have to definitely admit they missed the boat. BUT this is nice for those who missed out getting a full set years ago It's a nice chance to complete the lineup in a nice neat, easy way. Kudos for that. Finally.
And thinking about it, these ARE from HasbroAsia, right? It IS a 4th company. (Hasbro, Takara/Tomy, TFCC, HasbroAsia.) Each makes its own business plan, toy lines, exclusives, sculpts (at times)... It's clear why odd things like this happen, and why it's confusing to collectors. Each is thinking about its own market and what will sell. With the internet, we monitor all four companies and what they are doing overseas, and it looks like a big mess.
If we knew better what was going on in the 80s, we'd have pitched the same fits. Why did Canada get Diakrons in this color?! We didn't get a yellow Trailbreaker!? Peru colored minibots! Why did we get shafted??? And we've been waiting years for a red Tracks! Where is our Salt Man Z!
Rahahahah.
Posted by Anonymous on October 10th, 2012 @ 3:46am CDT
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 10th, 2012 @ 4:10am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:And thinking about it, these ARE from HasbroAsia, right? It IS a 4th company. (Hasbro, Takara/Tomy, TFCC, HasbroAsia.) Each makes its own business plan, toy lines, exclusives, sculpts (at times)... It's clear why odd things like this happen, and why it's confusing to collectors. Each is thinking about its own market and what will sell. With the internet, we monitor all four companies and what they are doing overseas, and it looks like a big mess.
Wait, there's a Hasbro Asia? I know there's an asian branch... But I kinda doubt they PRODUCE the toys. This is from Takara, it appears... That's the logo on all their other exclusives.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 10th, 2012 @ 9:03am CDT
And yeah, supposedly there's a separate company dealing with non-Japan-Asia — China, Singapore, etc. The GDO line was the first I've really heard anything about them doing their own series. Very odd.
Ah well. IF these are from Takara, guessing they won't be showing up at my local ToysRUs as I'd hoped. bummer.