Asian Market Exclusive Transformers Decepticons & Autobots Specialists Three-Packs?
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Decepticon Specialists
- Galvatron
- Octane
- Astrotrain
Autobot Specialists
- Ironhide
- Mirage
- Hound
These are said to come in special collector style packaging similar to the recently released Asian exclusive Seekers: Aces and Seekers: Elites sets.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 18th, 2013 @ 11:39pm CDT
Aside from giving their decos ADOS, I'm not sure how much more could be added the decos of these.
Posted by MagnetarPrime on August 18th, 2013 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by Metrosuplex on August 19th, 2013 @ 12:33am CDT
I like the reissues, but the prices are just exorbitant. It's really too bad Hasbro doesn't release a version of these for around $60-80. But I guess the predominant mindset among collectors is, "Screw the deluxes! I'm selling my collection and getting all MPs!!! "
Bleh. MPs are too big.
Posted by jamarmiller on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:30am CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 19th, 2013 @ 8:34am CDT
But, in all seriousness, I enjoy these Asia Exclusive 3-packs. At least with the Seekers, benefits included:
-Collector friendly packaging: you don't ruin a 'card' when opening them.
-Extension of the above: the box art is really nice/collectible/displayable.
-Due to the high list price, they eventually go on sale anyway (i.e. both Seeker sets are currently available for a more reasonable $90 on TFsource).
-The deco's are really nice - in some cases the best for that particular mold.
Barring the apps being terrible, I'm on board for these.
Posted by megatronus on August 19th, 2013 @ 8:41am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If these are the Classics/Universe molds, Mirage, Hound, and Astrotrain are the only ones worth looking into.
Am I the only one who at least mildly enjoys Octane?
...the answers is: Yes.
Sabrblade wrote:Aside from giving their decos ADOS, I'm not sure how much more could be added the decos of these.
ADOS?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2013 @ 9:07am CDT
"Attention Deficit... OOH, SHINY!!!"megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Aside from giving their decos ADOS, I'm not sure how much more could be added the decos of these.
ADOS?
Posted by megatronus on August 19th, 2013 @ 9:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"Attention Deficit... OOH, SHINY!!!"megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Aside from giving their decos ADOS, I'm not sure how much more could be added the decos of these.
ADOS?
Squirrel!?
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 19th, 2013 @ 10:21am CDT
xyl360 wrote:I hope the Astrotrain has a show accurate deco similar to the Henkei version which I never was able to acquire.
If you're a bit patient and don't mind waiting a bit after the release some buyers will break up the set and you could get Astrotrain solo and not have to buy all 3.
This will be very interesting on both factions. I personally missed out on Henkei Ironhide so I will possess him. I'm also curious on the price to see if they will be more expensive then that of the Seekers.
Posted by gothsaurus on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:14am CDT
Galvatron - more purple
Octane - chrome tanker
Astrotrain - G1 Toy color (light gray)
Hound - desert version (eHobby style)
Mirage - improved G1 deco OR Diaclone Red
Ironhide - improved G1 deco, or eHobby Diaclone Black
While I doubt they'd do these eHobby/Diaclone decos. I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY like them. If they put them out on the shelf, I'd snatch them up, too. Seriously, a red race car and desert jeep... and a "movie color" Ironhide. Great ideas for the shelf.
I'd also jump at a "G1" Swindle from Hound like they did in Alternators. Would be fantastic.
Posted by Metrosuplex on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:24am CDT
megatronus wrote:Am I the only one who at least mildly enjoys Octane?
...the answers is: NO.
Corrected. I liked Octane. I really didn't have a problem with any of the classics line, but maybe I was just too star-struck about G1's coming back into retail.
Posted by megatronus on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:31am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:I'm really curious to see how they might deco these to be any different... or more show accurate. I could see...
Galvatron - more purple
Octane - chrome tanker
Astrotrain - G1 Toy color (light gray)
Hound - desert version (eHobby style)
Mirage - improved G1 deco OR Diaclone Red
Ironhide - improved G1 deco, or eHobby Diaclone Black
While I doubt they'd do these eHobby/Diaclone decos. I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY like them. If they put them out on the shelf, I'd snatch them up, too. Seriously, a red race car and desert jeep... and a "movie color" Ironhide. Great ideas for the shelf.
I'd also jump at a "G1" Swindle from Hound like they did in Alternators. Would be fantastic.
Unfortunately, I think the Diaclone/Movie colors are a pipe dream. They've historically focused on giving us premium G1 decos.
Posted by gothsaurus on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:38am CDT
Red Mirage could be a new G1 character for the main line... plus Skid-Z and Machine Wars Prowl for a club store exclusive and the subscription service.
(Skid-Z can hang out with the new versions of Scourge, Side Burn and SkyByte.)
Just sayin'.
Posted by Mindmaster on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:41am CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 19th, 2013 @ 11:52am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I'll admit they're unlikely for these sets. Maybe while the molds are on the presses they can squeeze out something for the main line or subscription that fits the bill.
Red Mirage could be a new G1 character for the main line... plus Skid-Z and Machine Wars Prowl for a club store exclusive and the subscription service.
(Skid-Z can hang out with the new versions of Scourge, Side Burn and SkyByte.)
Just sayin'.
Hey, they did MP Tigertrack. Anything can happen
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 19th, 2013 @ 3:10pm CDT
Does a Hound reissue automatically = a Ravage reissue, as was evidenced in G2 redux? If they are gang molded OSLT, and Ravage is repainted into Howlback or Stripes, I'm gonna' hafta' fork over as much as it takes to get this set, if that's what it takes to convince HasTak to never ever stop with new Masterpiece cassettes. Once we've gotten new molds of every last cassette, down to the 4 combiner pair and an official Autoscout, I might actually forgive the neutering of KOTOYS.com. I'd much rather buy a purple MP Soundwave than those 3 Autobots again, but I'll purchase ANY new cassette-related item, official or otherwise, just to send them the right message.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 19th, 2013 @ 3:17pm CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:I wouldn't be interested in these at all, as Astrotrain, Galvatron, Ironhide, and Octane-Kor were some of the least impressive CHUGGUR molds (though Octank was a nice try that could've worked even better as a voyager than Galvy), but there's one issue no one's mentioned:
Does a Hound reissue automatically = a Ravage reissue, as was evidenced in G2 redux? If they are gang molded OSLT, and Ravage is repainted into Howlback or Stripes, I'm gonna' hafta' fork over as much as it takes to get this set, if that's what it takes to convince HasTak to never ever stop with new Masterpiece cassettes. Once we've gotten new molds of every last cassette, down to the 4 combiner pair and an official Autoscout, I might actually forgive the neutering of KOTOYS.com. I'd much rather buy a purple MP Soundwave than those 3 Autobots again, but I'll purchase ANY new cassette-related item, official or otherwise, just to send them the right message.
I wouldn't count on Ravage getting repainted into a new character. In fact, he may as well be completely omitted, despite being gang-molded.
Posted by RhA on August 19th, 2013 @ 3:18pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bumblevivisector wrote:I wouldn't be interested in these at all, as Astrotrain, Galvatron, Ironhide, and Octane-Kor were some of the least impressive CHUGGUR molds (though Octank was a nice try that could've worked even better as a voyager than Galvy), but there's one issue no one's mentioned:
Does a Hound reissue automatically = a Ravage reissue, as was evidenced in G2 redux? If they are gang molded OSLT, and Ravage is repainted into Howlback or Stripes, I'm gonna' hafta' fork over as much as it takes to get this set, if that's what it takes to convince HasTak to never ever stop with new Masterpiece cassettes. Once we've gotten new molds of every last cassette, down to the 4 combiner pair and an official Autoscout, I might actually forgive the neutering of KOTOYS.com. I'd much rather buy a purple MP Soundwave than those 3 Autobots again, but I'll purchase ANY new cassette-related item, official or otherwise, just to send them the right message.
I wouldn't count on Ravage getting repainted into a new character. In fact, he may as well be completely omitted, despite being gang-molded.
Also- CHUGGUR!
Posted by gothsaurus on August 19th, 2013 @ 3:27pm CDT
But yeah, same here. You give me a Ravage recolor and I'll be knocking down the door to buy the set.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 19th, 2013 @ 3:46pm CDT
On the flipside, Mirage and Hound are the masterpieces here. Damn are these 2 great, even if Hound's gun is loose'ish.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:14pm CDT
I agree Astrotrain is nice in and of himself, and it is neat how much longer he becomes in train mode, but to me he always stood out as the one guy in the first wave of Classics who was just a lateral-move from his original toy without any major improvements. Maybe it was that his gun didn't store properly, or that he should've been bigger, but even with an improved deco he's a pass for me.
Actually, the common theme for the three 'Cons seems to be that they all would've worked better as voyagers instead of deluxes!
Posted by gothsaurus on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:44pm CDT
Got any pics of Tornado? I'm wracking my brain to place the story and characters. Sounds familiar.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:48pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Got any pics of Tornado? I'm wracking my brain to place the story and characters. Sounds familiar.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:49pm CDT
...is, like it or not, technically the most-concise term to convey exactly what I meant there, since this thread did inevitably require a reference to "Classics" as the one-year subline that it was, and therefore cannot be used as an umbrella term for the continuing trend that it started in this context, since I've yet to hear a better collective term for all of those sublines that actually sticks in fandom's consciousness.RhA wrote:Also- CHUGGUR!
...is the end of that sentence.
It's all semiotics. The exclusion principle is a natural law of how language evolves. It's the same reason "seeker" kept persisting when it was thought to be a fan term despite the number of fans who adamantly refused to use it. There are hundreds of TFs with aircraft alts who aren't that body-template, so any synonym that included "jet", "plane", "sky", "flight" etc. couldn't effectively stick, leading to seeker becoming THE term by process of elimination.
If you've got a better term that's usable when one's discussing a group of toys that hail from more than one of those sublines, I'd love to hear it. I don't like being reminded of that Thomas rip-off when discussing TFs either.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2013 @ 4:53pm CDT
"Classics-style"?Bumblevivisector wrote:...is, like it or not, technically the most-concise term to convey exactly what I meant there, since this thread did inevitably require a reference to "Classics" as the one-year subline that it was, and therefore cannot be used as an umbrella term for the continuing trend that it started in this context, since I've yet to hear a better collective term for all of those sublines that actually sticks in fandom's consciousness.RhA wrote:Also- CHUGGUR!
...is the end of that sentence.
It's all semiotics. The exclusion principle is a natural law of how language evolves. It's the same reason "seeker" kept persisting when it was thought to be a fan term despite the number of fans who adamantly refused to use it. There are hundreds of TFs with aircraft alts who aren't that body-template, so any synonym that included "jet", "plane", "sky", "flight" etc. couldn't effectively stick, leading to seeker becoming THE term by process of elimination.
If you've got a better term that's usable when one's discussing a group of toys that hail from more than one of those sublines, I'd love to hear it. I don't like being reminded of that Thomas rip-off when discussing TFs either.
Posted by gothsaurus on August 19th, 2013 @ 5:01pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 19th, 2013 @ 5:03pm CDT
http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/ ... ornado.htm
It's not so much that Classics Mirage looks like Tornado beyond being skinny and blue, as that if you untransform his back a bit, he spins around easily at the waist, sort of emulating his power.
Was he given a distinct alt in Last Stand? I had planned to mostly slice Mirage's wheels off, repaint, and say he's some sort of spinning rocket plane...kind of like FoC Blast Off now that I think about it. So yeah, not worth destroying an unbroken official toy for, but I'll get around to it someday.
Posted by Rated X on August 19th, 2013 @ 6:08pm CDT
Metrosuplex wrote:So what's the asking price? $120? Or is that too optimistic?
I like the reissues, but the prices are just exorbitant. It's really too bad Hasbro doesn't release a version of these for around $60-80. But I guess the predominant mindset among collectors is, "Screw the deluxes! I'm selling my collection and getting all MPs!!! "
Bleh. MPs are too big.
I agree. MP's are too big. I just cant get into the Barbie doll sized scale. I like classics. Keep em coming.
Posted by TulioDude on August 19th, 2013 @ 7:27pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Red Mirage could be a new G1 character for the main line... plus Skid-Z and Machine Wars Prowl for a club store exclusive and the subscription service.
Movie Dino.
Posted by wewyllenium on August 20th, 2013 @ 10:31pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on February 24th, 2014 @ 10:44pm CST
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 24th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CST
Posted by megatronus on February 25th, 2014 @ 12:01am CST
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on February 25th, 2014 @ 6:22am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2014 @ 7:08am CST
Ravage is there - http://www.transformersasia.com/exclusive/exclusive_detail/3/228megatronus wrote:So I guess no Ravage?
Posted by Shadowstream on February 25th, 2014 @ 7:21am CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 25th, 2014 @ 8:20am CST
Shadowstream wrote:Is there any precedence to Hound having yellow eyes?
Maybe he has cirrhosis. Does Hound drink a lot?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 25th, 2014 @ 8:48am CST
Posted by necr0blivion on February 25th, 2014 @ 9:03am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?
Yes, different set scheduled to release later this year.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 25th, 2014 @ 9:07am CST
necr0blivion wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?
Yes, different set scheduled to release later this year.
Ok, makes sense. As long as get a new Decepticon counterpart set.
Such a dilemma, out the 3 sets announced, I only want 1 in each: Ironhide, Ratchet and Astrotrain, simply because I don't have either of these molds.
Posted by necr0blivion on February 25th, 2014 @ 9:15am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:necr0blivion wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?
Yes, different set scheduled to release later this year.
Ok, makes sense. As long as get a new Decepticon counterpart set.
Such a dilemma, out the 3 sets announced, I only want 1 in each: Ironhide, Ratchet and Astrotrain, simply because I don't have either of these molds.
A complimenting Decepticon set has not yet been announced as being offered with the K/P/R set. However, you'll remember there were only two ACE sets: Seekers and Coneheads. So, it's possible that more Autobots are coming your way to even the odds.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 25th, 2014 @ 9:31am CST
That is not the face of mercy.
Posted by megatronus on February 25th, 2014 @ 10:16am CST
Mindmaster wrote:Hound's box art is terrifying. I mean, look at it.
That is not the face of mercy.
I see they're giving him the Sgt. Bulkhound AOE persona...
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2014 @ 10:27am CST
The Seekers Ace set was S/S/T, the Coneheads were the Seekers Elite set.necr0blivion wrote:However, you'll remember there were only two ACE sets: Seekers and Coneheads.
Posted by Rated X on February 25th, 2014 @ 11:15am CST
Posted by dirk2243 on February 25th, 2014 @ 11:23am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:necr0blivion wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?
Yes, different set scheduled to release later this year.
Ok, makes sense. As long as get a new Decepticon counterpart set.
Such a dilemma, out the 3 sets announced, I only want 1 in each: Ironhide, Ratchet and Astrotrain, simply because I don't have either of these molds.
Uhg....I'd almost want to go in with you as I only want Mirage
Posted by megatronus on February 25th, 2014 @ 11:29am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Ravage is there - http://www.transformersasia.com/exclusive/exclusive_detail/3/228megatronus wrote:So I guess no Ravage?
Good to know!
Hope Hound's green is the brighter shade in the link versus the more drab, muted green he seems to have in the pics in this thread.
Now to decide whether to take the gamble of selling my original MOSC Hound & Mirage figures in the hope that this set dips below $100 on clearance, much as the Seeker Ace & Elite sets did.
Posted by necr0blivion on February 25th, 2014 @ 11:36am CST
Sabrblade wrote:The Seekers Ace set was S/S/T, the Coneheads were the Seekers Elite set.necr0blivion wrote:However, you'll remember there were only two ACE sets: Seekers and Coneheads.
Gracias!
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2014 @ 11:42am CST
Shadowstream wrote:Is there any precedence to Hound having yellow eyes?
Posted by Mindmaster on February 25th, 2014 @ 1:33pm CST
dirk2243 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:necr0blivion wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?
Yes, different set scheduled to release later this year.
Ok, makes sense. As long as get a new Decepticon counterpart set.
Such a dilemma, out the 3 sets announced, I only want 1 in each: Ironhide, Ratchet and Astrotrain, simply because I don't have either of these molds.
Uhg....I'd almost want to go in with you as I only want Mirage
I need Mirage, Perceptor, and Astrotrain.
The rest can be replacements, as the ones I do have are starting to show their age.