Battle Master Primal and Weaponizer Arcee Revealed Among New Stock Images for 10+ ROTB Toys

william-james88 wrote:For anyone wondering why I used Krok in that video review, well that Skullcruncher makes for an EXCELLENT Gatoraider.

I was thinking the same thing. Might have to go find myself a Krok.

Man I can usually easily wrap my head around all of the upcoming products for a line, but of all Transformers toy lines, this one got me. Way too much merchandise to keep track of. At this point, I think it'll just be a surprise to me when I find stuff at retail. I don't think most of it will be too difficult to find. Who knows though! Guess we'll all find out.

If you passed the first time then I highly recommend those Energon Igniters. They're really fun to race around and the transformations aren't that bad. I'm down for Battletrap and Starscream as the original Ironhide and Blitzwing were two of the best figures of the line.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you passed the first time then I highly recommend those Energon Igniters. They're really fun to race around and the transformations aren't that bad. I'm down for Battletrap and Starscream as the original Ironhide and Blitzwing were two of the best figures of the line.

I've got all of the original versions of the ones that are being redeco'ed. Just hard to keep track of what's coming out for this new movie line.

Super sleek cheetah mode there.

Seibertron wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you passed the first time then I highly recommend those Energon Igniters. They're really fun to race around and the transformations aren't that bad. I'm down for Battletrap and Starscream as the original Ironhide and Blitzwing were two of the best figures of the line.

I've got all of the original versions of the ones that are being redeco'ed. Just hard to keep track of what's coming out for this new movie line.

Don't feel bad, I'm more confused than a baby in a topless club.

Whifflefire wrote:

william-james88 wrote:For anyone wondering why I used Krok in that video review, well that Skullcruncher makes for an EXCELLENT Gatoraider.

I was thinking the same thing. Might have to go find myself a Krok.

The mold layout completely works for a Gatoraider redeco too. I 100% expect one at some point.

The Rise of the Beasts toyline was released in full force this week across the globe. However, since we never got a press release from Hasbro detailing all the different classes within the line, it's a bit tough to make sense of it all. So we have compiled a list of the different classes within the toyline when it comes to the action figure segment of it, along with images to show you which is which. And remember, this is just the mainline, the line aimed at kids and collectors alike, rather than just kids, is the Studio Series line which will have all these same characters.

Core Deluxe: traditional deluxe class figures, not found in US yet.
Wave 1
Airazor
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Wave 2
Autobot Mirage
Nightbird
Wheeljack



Voyager Class: traditional voyager class figures, not found in US yet
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox



Beast Battle Masters: targetmasters, which can work really well in other lines, only wave 1 released in US so far.
Wave 1
Cheetor
Rhinox
Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Optimus Primal
Airazor



Battle Changers: simplified figures between Scout and deluxe size, as you can see with Rhinox below. The waves in this one are unclear, the US got the first 3 listed so far.
Bumblebee
Optimus Prime
Rhinox
Autobot Mirage
Scourge



Beast Weaponizers: simple deluxe sized figures which come with a beast targetmaster, only wave 1 has been found in US so far.
Wave 1
Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Wave 2
Wheeljack & Rhinox
Arcee & Cheetor



Beast Combiners: simple deluxe sized figures which come with a beast partner which turns into armour. Only wave 1 spotted so far in the US.
Wave 1
Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Arcee & Silverfang
Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Scourge & Predacon Scorponok



Blaster Optimus Prime Blaster (released)

Converting Masks Bumblebee, Optimus Primal (released)



Smash Changer: 3 step automorph figures and only wave 1 was found in the US so far.
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox



Beast Mode: leader sized figures with electronics that have a third super mode which has beast elements (not released in US yet)
Beast Mode Bumblebee
Beast Mode Optimus Prime

Flex Changers: one step toys, all released in the US
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Nightbird



Titan Changers: leader sized figures with very simple conversions. All were released in the US but only Cheetor is a new mold.
Cheetor
Megatron
Optimus Prime



Exclusives
Deluxe Scorponok
2 Jungle Mission 3 packs
Smash Changer Scourge
Autobots Unite Speed Series Barricade, Bumblebee, Optimus Prime
Autobots Unite Power Plus Series Battletrap Bumblebee Megatron
Autobots Unite Nitro Series Starscream, Optimus Prime

While these toys have been around for a couple of weeks, we haven't had the time to post all the reviews for every toy found in the Rise of the Beasts toyline, but we'll get to them all. Here are reviews for the two other Beast Combiners, Arcee and Bumblebee. Both are simplified deluxe figures which have a rather large animal friend that turns into armor. Hopefully these reviews help you see what is in store for those curious about the figures.

Bumblebee



Arcee



And we also have another review of both those sets from Chuckdawg1999 who also had this to say about them:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you liked Optimus Primal then there's more of the same here with Arcee and Bumblebee, literally, their beast partners share tooling. Obviously, Arcee and Bee are far more involved with their transformations than Primal. Each set offers its own positives and negatives so it's ultimately up to you which character you like the best.

Transformers reviewers are hard at work covering all the new releases in the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line. Here are some reviews for toys we had not covered yet, voyager class Optimus Primal and Optimus Prime, as well as Smash and Change Rhinox. All of these reviews come from Prime vs Prime. Optimus Primal has been really tough to get a good read on since his deco looks really drab when seen through a camera lens. Hopefully this review sheds some proper light on the figure.

Remember, these toys are all in the mainline. In Studio Series, we will get a leader class Optimus Primal, a voyager class Rhinox and a voyager class Optimus Prime but that last one will be a Target exclusive.

Voyager Prime looks good will get soon.

Disappointed the Smash Changer of Optimus is just a repackage from Spark series?

I have all five of the Battle Masters toys available so far. Just need Primal, Airrazor, and the Target exclusive Scorponok Beast Weaponizer two-pack. I'm not planning to double dip with the second wave of Beast Weaponizer two-packs.

Fortress_Maximus wrote:Voyager Prime looks good will get soon.

Disappointed the Smash Changer of Optimus is just a repackage from Spark series?

More like the Cyberverse release was a "pre-package" of this one, since Hasbro did that because the original plan was to sell ROTB toys in Cyberverse packaging last year, but only that one figure saw release.

Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?

I don't think so, we already have leaks of a second wave of Battle Masters that are new figures, but who knows for sure.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?

Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that

william-james88 wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?

Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that

Are we sure there will be a later wave? I believe the Bee movie line was just a single wave, and we are already past that. I would have preferred to get the 2 weaponizer 2-pack battle masters on their own, but didn't want to chance missing out if a future wave doesn't happen.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?

Maybe, depends on how well the line sells and if they need more product to sell.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?

Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that

Are we sure there will be a later wave? I believe the Bee movie line was just a single wave, and we are already past that. I would have preferred to get the 2 weaponizer 2-pack battle masters on their own, but didn't want to chance missing out if a future wave doesn't happen.

I know there is a second wave, with Primal and Airazor, but I don't know beyond that. Though if I had to wager, I would think those won't get released individually.

Hey, since you have these toys, can you take some images of Prime and Primal next to deluxes from the legacy line (or any other generations line) just to get an idea of their size?

You probably have seen the transforming masks of Rise of the Beasts Bumblebee and Optimus Primal in stores by now. If you wanted to know more about them, we have a review of them both below.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:When the masks were first revealed I was intrigued with them and had a few questions; how would they work, fit, and feel? Well, I'm happy with both of them but I really enjoy the Optimus Primal mask that much more. Transformation is relatively simple, any issues might come from the ratcheting joints having to be worked into the right positions. Surprisingly the straps don't really get in the way and tuck nicely into the back of the figures. The price might be a little off-putting so if you can only get one, Primal is the way to go.

We were sent new stock images for two yet to be revealed toys in the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line: Battle Master Optimus Primal and the Weapoinizer Arcee 2 pack. We saw both toys before but these images give us a better look at them, and for Arcee we can see the robot mode. Some say it looks better than the Studio Series version. While that may be the case for the bot mode, it does come at a cost of an alt mode where the fake chest is not hidden in bike mode, resulting in a very awkward looking motorcycle.

Let us know what you think.

FYI the weaponizer figures are deluxe-ish in height compared to Generations, but on the small side. Here's a Cyberverse deluxe for comparison too since I already had Arcee out.

Beast Combiners Arcee and Silverfang is the only ROTB toy I've bought so far (a week ago, Target holiday sale), and I was as pleasantly surprised as the reviewer. Making the armor-bots animals makes it feel like more of a powerup than the unfolding Spark Armor vehicles of Cyberverse, for starters. And her bike mode feels like it's going to be a mess of robo-yoga-ed parts until you click that last tab in and...it's suddenly a solid alt mode!

I'll probably buy every Arcee in this movie line, partly because each one seems to have a different transformation despite all apparently being the same design. And while some may see the hands hanging off the back of and pseudo-kibble chest on top of Weaponizer Arcee's cycle mode as deal breakers that ruin the motorcycle aesthetic, I see exactly what I was considering customizing them into all along: female Junkions! Here's hoping they all clearance in enough quantity to army-build, but I'll probably buy one of each at full price.

But since an out-of-place chest on the newly revealed Arcee did come up, I have to note something about BC ROTB Arcee that might not have come through in the video: This has got to be the most stacked official Arcee toy we've ever gotten. I can't even think of a 3P Arcee with a bust that huge relative to the rest of her body. And considering the color scheme follows the example of her Earthspark design in making her pelvis and thighs the same medium-dark shade of pink to avoid the panty-line effect of her traditional G1 design, presumably to desexualize her a tad from the waist down, giving her a rack that doubles the radius of her torso in 3 out of 4 directions from her midriff adds up to an...interesting design choice.

Certainly not complaining though. HasTak, find ways to reuse ALL of these Arcee molds, preferably in rusty orange and brown so I won't have to repaint them as much.

Hope y'all are ready for a big-ass post.

I ended up finding all of the RotB toys minus the wave 1 single pack deluxes this week, and it was such a joy to see the toy aisles all movie-fied and ready to go (see below).





I myself ended up picking up all 3 Battlemasters, both of the battlemaster/larger figure packs, the voyagers, the Buzzworthy 3 pack, and the Primal mask. I passed on the beast combiner things because I am not really a fan of how unbalanced these ones look, and the price, and I passed on the flex changers for the price too.




Here is a group shot with all of the RotB toys I have so far, including the SS figures



So, let's roll on some thoughts:

Let's start with the individual battlemasters. I think all 3 are great fun. Cheetor makes a nice sword that goes quite well with the mainline deluxe. Rhinox is my favorite, i love his minigun mode. I may need to get more of him, and i am glad that the 2-pack Wheeljack includes another one of him, i have no problems getting that set. Skullcruncher is also pretty awesome, I like how spiky a gun he forms. All 3 are wings, well done there!

The battlemaster 2 packs are also pretty fun. Prime/Chainclaw is a fun set, I like that we have a chainsaw battlemaster at last, and the Prime is a pretty decent toy too. Surprisingly posable for the kids line. The set is a joy, I do love it. the Primal/Arrowstripe set is also pretty neat, a crossbow was a nice weapon choice, and Primal is good and chunky. I think that all Primal needed was head articulation, and this set would probably have been a big winner for me out of all of the toys.

The Primal mask was a bit of an impulse purchase, as the first store i visited only had the masks, and I was uncertain with my area if stuff would be stocked soon. I really like it. It's actually comfy to wear, and the fact that it transforms without anything really being compromised or getting in the way is fun. It's fun! I like it!

The deluxe 3 pack is next, and it is a decent pack. For one thing, $55 for 3 deluxes, essentially $18 per deluxe, is nice, and they are mostly good. Wheeljack for me is pretty nice, I like how posable he is, and he ends up with almost no kibble. Plus he looks good with the Rhinox battlemaster. cheetor is also pretty tight, I like the robot mode a lot, and the Cheetah mode was obviously compromised some for colors and the gut gun, but it's still nice, and I think both wheeljack and Cheetor could be full priced deluxes by themselves. nightbird is the one weak spot, she feels really light and flimsy compared to all the other figures I have bought. She isn't bad, but she feels the weakest of the group, and for now she gets Skullcruncher.

Finally, the voyagers. I got really lucky with these, found 1 of each on the very top of the walmart shelves. they were $34, which kind of hurts after the deluxes, and to be honest, I am not sure either is worth that cost. These feel more like ~$28 voyagers. Prime is good, but he just feels small and compromised in the paint a little more than I'd like for the price. Primal feels chonkier and bigger, but the simple transformation should have allowed for some more paint, and he sorely needs it. He has so much detail, but a lot of it is lost. also, he needed green eyes. These voyagers aren't bad, i enjoy them! they just feel like they needed to be cheaper.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Cute, but, for the whole second half of the video, your masked face is completely blocked, Mike Wazowski style, by the in-video link to another video.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Cute, but, for the whole second half of the video, your masked face is completely blocked, Mike Wazowski style, by the in-video link to another video.

I'm getting rid of it! Nothing ruins my work!

Once again, lots of Transformers Rise of the Beasts news to get to. We have new images of Scourge and Scorponok toys. For Scourge we have the Titan Changer which we had never seen before and the Beast Combiner set which we now see in better detail. That set comes with a Scorponok toy that becomes armor. And speaking of Scorponok we have an image of the exclusive Weaponizer set. It came out in Japan and on the packaging we have our first look at the CG render of Scorponok. It is in beast mode and according to test screenings Scorponok is a drone like army, as is Freezer.

In other ROTB news, we have some in hand images of deluxe class Mirage.

Enjoy and let us know what you think about all this.

Mirage looks ok. Car mode is very good, can't say I'm excited about the bot mode.

Scorponok is a Target exclusive in the US, right?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Scorponok is a Target exclusive in the US, right?

yes

I know Titan-Changers tend towards that lanky look, but Scourge raises the bar. I'd say he's modded himself to try out for the 'Con basketball team, but he might be a bigger boon to their cricket team...by turning into the bat.

BC Scourgepinok on the other hand makes me glad I do most of my TF shopping at Target anyway. Coolest Beast Combiner I've seen to date.

Mirage looks very, very basic. It's good and bad at the same time.

TC Scourge looks like a frame from the Distorted Cat meme video.

GIMME ALL THE SCORPIONS! Those looks bad-ass, including that tiny rusty Scourge. Too bad it's a Target exclusive because my local TrU doesn't have a good track record in carrying those.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Mirage looks very, very basic. It's good and bad at the same time.

TC Scourge looks like a frame from the Distorted Cat meme video.

GIMME ALL THE SCORPIONS! Those looks bad-ass, including that tiny rusty Scourge. Too bad it's a Target exclusive because my local TrU doesn't have a good track record in carrying those.

I don't know if the combiner one is exclusive. Just sure about the weaponizer one.

I have a feeling that, if anything, with the big movie push, that Scorponok is going to be over produced and very easy to find.

Emerje

My thoughts on my firsts Rotb Primals.

First the one that have the Targetmaster. He's simple fun but holy crap that poor tiger got a grisly fate...



Next is the Smash Changer. Sure he's a brick, but he's pretty fun overall.



Finally, the one with poor Skullcruncher. I man, how BARBARIC AND METAL this set is! I wish this will be a scene in the movie.

The Scorponok art looks fantastic, and it's also hilarious that he transforms the same way the 07 Scorponok deluxe did.

Mirage looks decent, I am so glad they went with the head from the trailers over that original head, the mouth area doesn't look that good on him. But i am excited for him since he is the only one of the main 5 Autobots i still need.

Looks like we have another connection between Optimus Prime and a white lion coming up in the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line. Below you will see our first look at another upcoming and yet to be revealed toy within the Beast Combiner class which has an animal robot which turns into armor to combine with a deluxe sized bot. This comes just days after we saw the Scourge toy within this class which is also yet to be revealed. The image was posted by Snowman117, an Australian TF fan who found it in a Myer catalog promoting a toy sale sent to their email. The animal here, Lionblade, has the exact same transformation as Snarlsaber, who came with Bumblebee. All these armors are compatible within the same Beast Combiner class.

I love these Beast Combiner figures and would love to get the whole cast in this style. It takes the fun idea that were the the armor figures in Cyberverse and makes them even better. I will love to add them all to the collection. Plus more Lio Convoy call backs are never a bad thing.

OK, that Optimus Prime is my favorite combiner yet. These are interchangeable right? I want to pair the lion with Primal so badly. Maybe they'll do a repaint of the lion in red, yellow or black later on.

Emerje

I do believe that Prime has elbows! All the other figures had limited joints.

Most of these RotB figures seem targeted at the younger tykes, rather than older collectors. I suppose that's where a lot of the money is. But as with Earthspark, I just don't see much (if anything) in the movie line that motivates me to buy. Ah well.

Guess I'll have to wait for the push on these kiddie figures to ebb out before stores replenish the Legacy line and other figures for those of us looking for something a little less childish. That probably means another 6-8 months with unsold Coronation Starscreams and Studio Series 86 Blurr/Kup figures gathering dust on the pegs.

Finally found the Speed Series rereleases! I already have Bee so I planned on getting both Prime and Barricade, but at $9 a piece I ended up just getting Prime. It’s pretty cool! It’s actually Evasion Mode Optimus Prime from Age of Extinction in robot mode (which is why I was interested in it), I’m looking forward to painting it up! The sculpted detail is really nice for a figure of this size.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Finally found the Speed Series rereleases! I already have Bee so I planned on getting both Prime and Barricade, but at $9 a piece I ended up just getting Prime. It’s pretty cool! It’s actually Evasion Mode Optimus Prime from Age of Extinction in robot mode (which is why I was interested in it), I’m looking forward to painting it up! The sculpted detail is really nice for a figure of this size.

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What kind of candy is that in the background?

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Finally found the Speed Series rereleases! I already have Bee so I planned on getting both Prime and Barricade, but at $9 a piece I ended up just getting Prime. It’s pretty cool! It’s actually Evasion Mode Optimus Prime from Age of Extinction in robot mode (which is why I was interested in it), I’m looking forward to painting it up! The sculpted detail is really nice for a figure of this size.

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Where did you find him? Were there others from thar sibline in stores?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:What kind of candy is that in the background?

Air Heads Extremes! These are the only ones I’ve seen so far but supposedly there’s a couple different types of Air Heads with Transformers branding.

william-james88 wrote:
Where did you find him? Were there others from thar sibline in stores?

Found him at a Meijer in Michigan, actually the same one I first found Studio Series wave 1 in all those years ago! The others from the same class were there (Bee, Barricade), but none of the larger Energon Igniters like ROTF Megatron and Orange Ironhide/Battletrap.

Here’s the packaging (Optimus is sitting loose inside since I already opened it)

Might need to get that Lion Optimus, depending on what he looks like with a fuller look at the toy.

I have been enjoying the new toys a lot. They are fun to mess with.

Still waiting for that voyager Primal to appear in any local store.