Bay Says "No Goofiness" in Transformers: Age of Extinction

cruizerdave wrote:The "goofiness" will be gone. However, the assaultive level of ignorance will remain.

Convoy wrote:My dream movie is an adaptation of the first three episodes of G1 "More than Meets the Eye." (and having nothing to do with Mike Bay, Alex or Roberto.) My dream trilogy would then probably include adaptations of The Ultimate Doom and Megatron's Master Plan. I'd have the next trilogy start with an adaptation of The Transformers: The Movie. Y'know, introduce Unicron, kill off Optimus, (at least don't bring him back from the dead in the same damn movie!) hand the reigns off to Magnus to have Hot Rod become the new Prime... you know the story. This all takes place in the 80's by the way.

Blozor wrote:Seriously? He has movies with Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, The Fallen, Sentinel Prime, Shockwave, and he waits to introduce the Dinobots -- basically giant robot morons to promise no goofiness? Has he SEEN Transformers: The Movie from 1986?

RhA wrote:'No more goofyness'.

I distinctly remember a giant robot riding a giant robot dinosaur.

Sabrblade wrote:I'm not one to regularly defend the movies, but the following posts caught my eye:

Blozor wrote:Seriously? He has movies with Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, The Fallen, Sentinel Prime, Shockwave, and he waits to introduce the Dinobots -- basically giant robot morons to promise no goofiness? Has he SEEN Transformers: The Movie from 1986?

You do realize that, in like 75% of G1 fiction, the Dinobots are intelligent, right? Grimlock was even the LEADER of the Autobots (twice!) after Optimus died (twice!). The big dumb oaf from the cartoon is far from Grimlock's only persona.

Blozor wrote:Seriously? He has movies with Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, The Fallen, Sentinel Prime, Shockwave, and he waits to introduce the Dinobots -- basically giant robot morons to promise no goofiness? Has he SEEN Transformers: The Movie from 1986?

Ah well, serious Dinobot barbarians are cool, too, which is basically what the Dinobots are. The main reason, I think, Shockwave is depicted as Grimlock's main nemesis, because if there was ever a Decepticon you could call a wizard, Shockwave would be it.

If Michael Bay could actually write situational humor that wasn't embarrassing to everybody watching it, I wouldn't mind a little goofiness. He should take cues from the likes of Joss Whedon or James Roberts or A Lee Matinez or Simon Pegg if he wants to add some humor to his scripts, not whatever junior high school he's apparently going to.

EunuchRon wrote:Any time you see text in brackets, it's not a direct quote but implied and interpreted by the author. The [on the last one] was added by IGN; Those are not words from Bay himself.

It is a drag talking to reporters on sets. Why? Because often times they take your words and skew things to their liking. Then the crazy, lazy game of reporting on what other writers story’s reported me saying and suddenly it becomes skewed Internet truth. So I waste my time to restate exactly what I did say, again.


No I did not ‘apologize’ for any Transformers movies. I did not say I shot the last three movies “less cool” than the new fourth installment. I was talking specifically about camera style and tone, of the first movie compared to how I shot the new installment with a very big scale, cinematic style. I was very specific in saying the first Transformers was shot in a ‘generic suburbia’ area, not trying to be cool with any cinematic flashes. I wanted it to feel like this could happen in any backyard in the United States.


So that brings me to letting Transformers fans know that we have completed our five and half month shoot. We got back from a month long shoot in China. My crew and I had a fantastic time shooting in Hong Kong and Mainland China. It was an amazing experience, and I love the country. My cast was absolutely fantastic, and a very fun group to work with. We are working hard cutting the movie right now. I think the first piece comes out for the Super Bowl and a teaser right after that.


And yes, I’m very excited about this new movie.

Muscle Man wrote:I refuse to believe this film will not include a dog humping a mailbox or testicles on robots. I refuse, bro's.

TurboMMaster wrote:IMO Impossible, it is hard to create any mobie about Bayformers Optimus that isn't a bad comedy. He's appearance is the worst kind of goofiness at all!!!!

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Regardless of what Bay said or didn't say, I really think AOE will be at least as serious in tone as DOTM. Meaning, there will still be a couple of ass-clown characters like Jerry and Brazos, but overall the other characters will act like normal people...or generic Hollywood action movie characters. It'll also be more "TF'ish" in tone and actually tell a story with the TF's at the center stage instead of just obligatory eye candy as we've seen in ROTF.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Besides, we also have Wahlberg as the new lead actor instead of Shia. While he may be cast as a "wacky inventor", at least we won't be seeing any more neurotic teens running around, screaming, "Nononono-nooooo!!!!"

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Regardless of what Bay said or didn't say, I really think AOE will be at least as serious in tone as DOTM. Meaning, there will still be a couple of ass-clown characters like Jerry and Brazos, but overall the other characters will act like normal people...or generic Hollywood action movie characters. It'll also be more "TF'ish" in tone and actually tell a story with the TF's at the center stage instead of just obligatory eye candy as we've seen in ROTF.

Besides, we also have Wahlberg as the new lead actor instead of Shia. While he may be cast as a "wacky inventor", at least we won't be seeing any more neurotic teens running around, screaming, "Nononono-nooooo!!!!"

Sabrblade wrote:By this point, I think any TF taking center stange over any of the lead human actors is a pipe dream. This will undoubtedly "The Wahlberg/Peltz/Reynor Movie featuring the Tranformers" just like how the first three were "The Adventures of Sam Witwicky featuring the Transformers".

Sabrblade wrote:Nicola Peltz and Jack Reynor are the lead teenage roles.

SlyTF1 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Regardless of what Bay said or didn't say, I really think AOE will be at least as serious in tone as DOTM. Meaning, there will still be a couple of ass-clown characters like Jerry and Brazos, but overall the other characters will act like normal people...or generic Hollywood action movie characters. It'll also be more "TF'ish" in tone and actually tell a story with the TF's at the center stage instead of just obligatory eye candy as we've seen in ROTF.

Besides, we also have Wahlberg as the new lead actor instead of Shia. While he may be cast as a "wacky inventor", at least we won't be seeing any more neurotic teens running around, screaming, "Nononono-nooooo!!!!"

Sam hadn't said "nonono" since that one time in ROTF after he had that freakout in the class room.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Regardless of what Bay said or didn't say, I really think AOE will be at least as serious in tone as DOTM. Meaning, there will still be a couple of ass-clown characters like Jerry and Brazos, but overall the other characters will act like normal people...or generic Hollywood action movie characters. It'll also be more "TF'ish" in tone and actually tell a story with the TF's at the center stage instead of just obligatory eye candy as we've seen in ROTF.

Besides, we also have Wahlberg as the new lead actor instead of Shia. While he may be cast as a "wacky inventor", at least we won't be seeing any more neurotic teens running around, screaming, "Nononono-nooooo!!!!"

Sam hadn't said "nonono" since that one time in ROTF after he had that freakout in the class room.

You're forgetting the scene in the first movie when OP stepped on the fountain in his garden.

Either way, I don't like how he runs around screaming his head off. It's a matter of personal tastes, period.

And yes, I realize that's how people might act when they're in a panicky situation; I just don't like how he does it on screen. I repeat: a matter of personal tastes.

SlyTF1 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Regardless of what Bay said or didn't say, I really think AOE will be at least as serious in tone as DOTM. Meaning, there will still be a couple of ass-clown characters like Jerry and Brazos, but overall the other characters will act like normal people...or generic Hollywood action movie characters. It'll also be more "TF'ish" in tone and actually tell a story with the TF's at the center stage instead of just obligatory eye candy as we've seen in ROTF.

Besides, we also have Wahlberg as the new lead actor instead of Shia. While he may be cast as a "wacky inventor", at least we won't be seeing any more neurotic teens running around, screaming, "Nononono-nooooo!!!!"

Sam hadn't said "nonono" since that one time in ROTF after he had that freakout in the class room.

You're forgetting the scene in the first movie when OP stepped on the fountain in his garden.

Either way, I don't like how he runs around screaming his head off. It's a matter of personal tastes, period.

And yes, I realize that's how people might act when they're in a panicky situation; I just don't like how he does it on screen. I repeat: a matter of personal tastes.

I meant since the first movie. He said it a lot there, just once in ROTF, and not at all in DOTM. He did, however say, "No, no."

datguy86 wrote:If it's anything like the first three movies, then it will be the Armed Forces as the lead characters, the humans second in line, and the Transformers dead last. One of the things which makes the movies really not that enjoyable is the large amount of military masturbation Bay places in the films. If this was GI Joe - fantastic! But really, I paid to see giant robots fighting and being interesting and most times the movies barely deliver.

Quite frankly, less goofiness equals more military waxing. Yay.

MINDVVIPE wrote:A lot of posters here agree that more TFs on screen is what we all want. Some might argue that DOTM was a step in this direction, but I would like to add another dimension to this. More robot screen time is great, for sure. But I also wanted to see some real threat from the Decepticons. Just one example: Soundwave being taken out by Bumblebee. Imagine Prime soundwave fighting BB. I somehow doubt BB could have won, and I definitely doubt BB could have single handedly killed Soundwave. It really defeats the build up of any villain, especially one that we know to be quite strong and essentially one of Megatron's closest soldiers, to be ousted by an autobot scout (unless written to show he really spent the time planning and strategizing an attack). The fight between a wrecker and Soundwave would have been much more palatable.

Anyway, point is this. Make the villains less 'show' and more 'threat', and I don't mean 'taking hostages' threat. I mean, laying a trail of death in their wake threat.
I fear I yet again desire too much from a mainstream movie.

MINDVVIPE wrote:A lot of posters here agree that more TFs on screen is what we all want. Some might argue that DOTM was a step in this direction

Anyway, point is this. Make the villains less 'show' and more 'threat', and I don't mean 'taking hostages' threat. I mean, laying a trail of death in their wake threat.

Rodimus Prime wrote:The way Megatron, Shockwave and Starscream were handled and killed in the 1st trilogy is just disgraceful. Megatron had his moments, but in the end he was dispatched without much build-up in DoTM. I didn't expect much from him considering his condition, but then Bay dangled a carrot by having Megatron just totally demolish Sentinel after Sentinel pretty much bitch-slapped Optimus. Then Optimus comes back, one-armed, and dispatches Megatron like it was nothing. And Shockwave? If there was a showdown to be had, it should have been Prime vs. Shockwave on that street. Instead what do we get? 1 of the most ruthless and fearsome Decepticons gets disabled by some humans, who, if any of this was real, would have been squashed like bugs in an instant, and then Prime just hits him and rips his eye out and that's it. Ugh. I never cared for Starscream, but once again, getting killed by 2 humans? Please. He should have died at the hands of Ironhide. That was another opportunity for a great showdown that was missed. As for Soundwave, I thought it wasn't as bad as the others, though the fight could have lasted longer. Bumblebee in Bayverse isn't some punk-ass scout, he's actually a pretty good fighter.

OptimusPrime273 wrote::CON: Of course there's going to be some goofyness....its been like that since movie 1, now were stepping into 4 and the masses haven't realized that this is director Bays style? I'm facepalming at the fact that I can never come onto these pages and be able to DISCUSS anything like a fan.....why? Because everyone has a short fuse and can't seem to respect an opinion or news that has the smallest percentage of difference from what they think. I love the movies, but I can't come onto a single film thread w/o bitching and more bitching....anddddd more bitching...about a movie like spoiled kid brats. The sad thing is the majority are grown adults. Complain complain complain about how much one doesn't something... then go and see it in theaters anyway when u supposedly know its gonna suck and call Michael Bay an idiot. Now tell me, whos the idiot again?.....

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Seriously, no one is stopping you from saying what you like about the movies. I'll go first. Movies = more money for generations figures. This thread has no flaming so far, I don't see the reason for any hostility just because the majority of posters are voicing their opinions that happen not to agree with your own.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Seriously, no one is stopping you from saying what you like about the movies. I'll go first. Movies = more money for generations figures. This thread has no flaming so far, I don't see the reason for any hostility just because the majority of posters are voicing their opinions that happen not to agree with your own.

At this point everyone should know what to expect from the movies. The time to express your opinion has passed. You didn't like the last 3 thats's fine. You've already said that 6 years ago, and 4 years ago, and 2 years ago. Can you at least wait till the movie comes out before you assault us with more of your tired old complaining? Now every time I come to the movie forum I feel like I'm stuck in a car with a whiny kid. It's a constant barrage of the same complaint over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Everyone has their right to an opinion, but shouldn't we also have the right to not have the same damn bitchfest shoved down our throats every day.

MINDVVIPE wrote:I got some good advice from a moderator here once, a mod named Burn. He said if you don't really like reading it, don't. Pretty simple. No one is forcing you to read each post in these threads.