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Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

ILL-Star wrote:Has anyone else realized that Chromia is a massive retooling of PRID Arcee?

I think it might be one of those similar designs with separate molds things, like how Energon Starscream is similar to G2 Smokescreen but they don't share any actual tooling.

Speaking of retools (and Starscream), they couldn't save either Nacelle or G2 Starscream for next year's FSS?

Hideous every one of them, was really interested to see new versions of Prime and Megs, also the bonus of a proper CHUG Powerglide, but Hasbro have really screwed these up, over simplified transformations with blocky miss proportioned bot modes. Good thing the 3rd party firms are knocking stuff out of the park these days.

Those TFSS figures are some fantastically bizarre homages.

I loved the TFSS 2 but this feels very Meh, to me, I am interested in finding out what the "free" figure is.

Arcee taking nods from delicate warrior? Either way she and Chromia rock!

Don't hear anyone complaining about Arcee's butt flaps btw.

At this point I wish they would just stop using that stupid Classic Seeker mold. We've since gotten the newer and better FOC Seeker for them to use. Of course that's just my opinion. I know that G2 Starscream was just a repaint of the G1 figure so it makes sense for FP to use it. But would it really hurt to change the physical appearance of the character to better fit today's style? The Classics Seeker is clumsy, blocky, and old.

Aside from G2 Screamer and Nacelle, I'm pretty happy with the reveals as long as Tarantulas has his colors adjusted.

Well it seems as though the tfss creative well is drying a bit. Oh well, at least i won't be missing out on anything important like these last two.

I want all 6 (7). I will be so in on this set.

Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

How?

I thought you had to buy the whole set...

All I want is Krok

YoungPrime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

How?

I thought you had to buy the whole set...

All I want is Krok

If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.

Mindmaster wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

How?

I thought you had to buy the whole set...

All I want is Krok

If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.

Alternate alternatively, you can sometimes find someone to split a set with. I'm actually already in on 1/6th of a sub for Nacelle.

Prime' design reminds me of the big animatronic Powermaster in the old TF G1 videos with the Tommy Kennedy kid.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Puppetpmprime.jpg

G2 Starscream !!! Yes !!!!

Weird blue seeker ? Why not ? Who is she anyways ?

Taruantlas...maybe...

The others totally suck.

Midnight_Fox wrote:Alternate alternatively, you can sometimes find someone to split a set with.

That too!

fenrir72 wrote:Prime' design reminds me of the big animatronic Powermaster in the old TF G1 videos with the Tommy Kennedy kid.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Puppetpmprime.jpg

Y'know, as I was looking at this thing, I was getting a Powermaster/Godmaster vibe from it for whatever reason. If this gets a third party Powermaster converting trailer/armor, I'd be game for it.

But besides that, I'm perfectly happy with my Classics Voyager. Had this been revealed exactly a year ago, I would've pounced on it, no questions asked.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well it seems as though the tfss creative well is drying a bit. Oh well, at least i won't be missing out on anything important like these last two.

I think another part of the issue is that they've come up with plenty of things for their comics that are based on pre-existing toys and could easily be used for things like the FSS, and then not gone ahead and produced them. The "Beast Wars: Uprising" designs, in particular, are a very visible case of this, but it goes back way further. To say nothing of they fact that I'm not sure what's stopping them from doing pre-existing designs like Ser-Ket or Flatline that are already based on a pre-existing toy mold.

ILL-Star wrote:At this point I wish they would just stop using that stupid Classic Seeker mold. We've since gotten the newer and better FOC Seeker for them to use. Of course that's just my opinion. I know that G2 Starscream was just a repaint of the G1 figure so it makes sense for FP to use it. But would it really hurt to change the physical appearance of the character to better fit today's style? The Classics Seeker is clumsy, blocky, and old.

Aside from G2 Screamer and Nacelle, I'm pretty happy with the reveals as long as Tarantulas has his colors adjusted.

I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...

Mindmaster wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

How?

I thought you had to buy the whole set...

All I want is Krok

If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.

Oh, what's the average rate for just one?

Rated X wrote:Weird blue seeker ? Why not ? Who is she anyways ?

Nacelle is a new Club original character. The deco is based on this proto-Thrust:





Source: http://www.tf-1.com/articles/eurous/ear ... plate.html

YoungPrime wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:Definitely getting Nacelle and Krok.

How?

I thought you had to buy the whole set...

All I want is Krok

If there's any leftover stock after shipping the figures out, the Club usually sticks the individuals on the Club Store. Alternatively, one can go to online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store or TFSource and get specific individuals from there.

Oh, what's the average rate for just one?

There's really no average. It depends on the popularity of the character. If it's someone like Circuit, probably dirt cheap for a TFCC exclusive (thirty-ish bucks). If it's someone like Slipstream or Robots in Disguise Scourge, could go up to or more than $100.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well it seems as though the tfss creative well is drying a bit. Oh well, at least i won't be missing out on anything important like these last two.

I think another part of the issue is that they've come up with plenty of things for their comics that are based on pre-existing toys and could easily be used for things like the FSS, and then not gone ahead and produced them. The "Beast Wars: Uprising" designs, in particular, are a very visible case of this, but it goes back way further. To say nothing of they fact that I'm not sure what's stopping them from doing pre-existing designs like Ser-Ket or Flatline that are already based on a pre-existing toy mold.

If they did something like that, then sure I'd sign up. But as it stands, g2 Starscreams the only one I'm tempted by, but its mostly because im trying to build a neo g2 collection. I say next years going to be one of the cheapest tfss aftermarkets

Man im torn on arcee & chromia, they are obviously shellformers but the detailing is awesome. The one step chopper drift looks interesting as does slag the rest not so much, way to many repaints going on with those. Depending on price ill probably get that 3 pack with prime, crankcase & rollbar, i wanted skids but never saw him and that prime looks so much better than the main release. As for the rest of the generations they look good but ill be picking & choosing with those once again cause of the over pricing. I am a bit disappointed that they have 2 versions of the same figure at the same time, both megs look awesome but should've either just picked one version or waited a while for the other. Also upset that the simplification is leeching into generations, not as bad as AOE but its there. But still nothing there that id consider a must have, closest thing would be brainstorm only for the head master gimmick.

Fan pub did not create Nacelle Exodus did along with Hotlink and Bitstream


http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nacelle

Wow, I am one and done for subscription service. I may hit up ebay for Krok, but that's about it.

Hope this means more generations headmasters. Want a new Chromedome. Brainstorm looks awesome.

Arcee is a "must get" from these images...and I'll be up for Powerglide if I see him (although I'm still pretty content with my cyberverse update) and Bombshell...wait a sec...where are his hands??!?

I... REALLY don't know what to think of that OP. I'm guessing it's another Simplified Voyager? It looks very stylized for younger audiences. Megatron looks great aside from the skinny legs, but I'll reserve judgement on those for when I can see it in hand. I want a few of the legends figures, probably will get the TFSS figures, definitely getting Chromedome, and Arcee and Chromia will be great. Kind of wondering if they plan to retool Chromia into Ariel/Elita-1 at some point. It definitely looks like a heavy retool of Arcee, or at least they have the same transformation scheme... does tarantulas look like he's pulling twinsies with thrustinator a bit?

Chromia and Brainstorm.....best in show. Arcee is awesome but too much kibble. Still good to see it though.

Pete said at a panel its dawn of the futures past tarantulas, at least according to tfw.

Any idea where this exclusive is gonna be available at? I would love to pick these all up at once without having to search multiple Target's and TRU's in my area, lol.

Spider5800 wrote:

Any idea where this exclusive is gonna be available at? I would love to pick these all up at once without having to search multiple Target's and TRU's in my area, lol.

It's a Platinum Edition set. All of those are exclusive to Toy "R" Us.

Rated X wrote:I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...

Yeah, I'm surprised Red Wing *giggle* didn't make it on this list. But he could still be the 7th figure, next year's free sub figure, the companion sell figure, or even in next year's BotCon set. But seeing how we've got seeker mold representing here, I'm hoping he's the 7th figure.

Of course I'm getting the Seekers for I am a true Starscream collector. I'm thinking of getting everyone except for Zap and maybe Tarantulas. I think Junkheap's neon repaint into Tarantulas is just urging me to vomit.

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There's even a direct reference to "Farmageddon"!

necr0blivion wrote:

Rated X wrote:I love the seeker mold cant get enough of it. Hope we get that red seeker for the free figure. I would love that. The FOC seeker mold is just ok. Too video gamish for me...

Yeah, I'm surprised Red Wing *giggle* didn't make it on this list. But he could still be the 7th figure, next year's free sub figure, the companion sell figure, or even in next year's BotCon set. But seeing how we've got seeker mold representing here, I'm hoping he's the 7th figure.

As the child of a podiatrist, I fervently hope Red Wing gets made some day. I want a Seeker named after a shoe company.

And now for more up close and personal shots, this time of the Transformers: Age of Extinction Robots in Disguise line. We have uploaded our own spectacular showroom galleries for you to see as much as your optics can take in. These include the Power Battlers and One-Step Changers as seen in our Hasbro Display Gallery. Check out a small selection from below, or check out the full gallery.

Anyone have any idea why they changed which mold they were using for Nightbeat, BTW?

So, are these Platinum Editions supposed to be US released?

So I take it Tarantulus is yet another BW character that Hasbro has no plans on making a new figure for within the next two or three years.

So we have Rattrap, Waspinator and Rhinox but Depthcharge, Rampage, Tarantulas and possibly Silverbolt are exclusive retools. If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

Possibly for the SS after this one they're advertising for now or maybe even next years incentive figure but that might be too soon for a mold that's not even out yet.

I checked as many of the comments as I could however it seems that everyone is too busy calling that Optimus "ugly" but I see something interesting when I look at it's design. To me, it absolutely screams Machine Wars Optimus Prime/Thunderclash update. The alt modes are very reminiscent of each other and the parts layout and transformation are similar too. Just give it a new chest plate and head and it would be perfect as Thunderclash/MW Optimus.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /611/1/26/

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/37/

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /640/1/66/

Nemesis Primal wrote:Anyone have any idea why they changed which mold they were using for Nightbeat, BTW?

I've missed this in all the news, who is Nightbeat a repaint of now?

craggy wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Anyone have any idea why they changed which mold they were using for Nightbeat, BTW?

I've missed this in all the news, who is Nightbeat a repaint of now?

He was based on the "Reveal the Shield" Jazz mold, with a new head and speakers replaced by searchlights. Now they're using the Generations Bumblebee mold with a new head but no other retooling. I was wondering if they said anything at Botcon about the reason for the switch.

Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.

I hope they 'll pull a springer/sandstorm, tfp arcee/chromia and make slipstream from windblade. You can say they won't because of the club, but what else is there for femjets.

Agreed on slipstream. Been holding my breath for that

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:If those characters can't get new molds then I doubt Airazor will so I'll continue to expect her to be a retool of Windblade at some point.

I doubt Fun Pub will do Airazor either, since they already got her early on. And honestly, if someone does decide to do a retool or windblade, I think a more interesting idea would be to go back to the concept ideas that are out there which feature her as a knight or a Roman-style warrior. And if Funpub does a Knight Windblade, they could get reuse out of the knight insignia they designed for Botcon this year to boot.

I hope they 'll pull a springer/sandstorm, tfp arcee/chromia and make slipstream from windblade. You can say they won't because of the club, but what else is there for femjets.

You're right, I can't say they won't because of the club. The club doesn't really seem to have any influence on what Hasbro does except maybe indirectly.

I'm not sure how likely it is, but this sort of major retool would have to be doon by Hasbro/Takara themselves. And given the way they've got Generations set up currently, they'd probably want to have Slipstream in the IDW comics so they could have something to reprint with her toy (and let's be honest, there's other good reasons for this to happen too). So if it does happen, we'll probably see it coming.

Maybe if they make that Slipstream, they could also turn Chromia into Flamewar?

Nah to soon for flamewar unless someone at Hasbros in a massive pissing contest with someone at funpub.

You did a headmaster scorpinok, yeah thats cool we made an all new headmaster mold without having to Frankenstein an energon mold and a g1 headmaster. Also his head can turn, the little guy can actually fit in the vehicle mode cockpit, and we didnt missassemble our toy.

Ok Burn, I know you have my quote on you sig line about betting a Metroplex that Hasbro was going to screw us on Arcee... well, I am not going to consider THAT clunky Brickformer with more back-kibble than most of the TF4 figures to be a serious attempt by Hasbro at a decent Arcee. Half a dozen 3rd party companies have done FAR better than the #1 toy company in the entire Northern Hemisphere so I'm still saying we got screwed and I'm not touching that toy. Try Again Hasbro and keep trying until you get it right!!

Pretty cool to see some of the other Generations figures though although I'm a bit disappointed that they are still getting lazy and bringing in figures from different lines and repainting them and passing them off as our beloved "Classic" characters. I find that rather insulting.

Not sure what to make of that Voyager Prime but I can tell from the pics that I already like it better than the Evasion Mode Prime so I guess I'll be adding that one to my Prime collection. Disappoints that Megatrons guns are so puny but that's tolerable since I like the rest of the figure in both tank and robot modes. Haven't seen a decent Megs since Classics line first started (I'm not counting the recent Legends figure. It's very cool but too tiny to be lumped in with the others)

I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?

Come on be a man, burn called you out fair an square. Own up.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Nah to soon for flamewar unless someone at Hasbros in a massive pissing contest with someone at funpub.

It's the only female Decepticon I could think of who'd work with Chromia's mold. Really, I just think if they do Slipstream, they might as well do some gal-pals for her so she's not the only female Decepticon in the entire IDW universe.

knightsix wrote:I doubt we'll see a Slipstream anytime soon. They just had her in the TFSS last year. Plus Nautica was already designed to be a retool of Windblade, so that's likely the next variant we see out of her. But she'll be a general release. Nautica's a submersible, though, so can anyone be retooled or repainted from her?

Thunderblast, maybe?