Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line
Wednesday, November 25th, 2020 12:03PM CST
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While the initial preorders showed that the Studio Series 86 figures would come out grouped together, the latest case contents show that the 86 figures are part of the mainline and will be mixed into the rest of Studio Series. We see that with the voyagers. While wave 11 of voyagers, the next wave of Studio Series, only contains the Hot Rod and Scourge 86 figures, wave 12 will have a mix where 86 Hot Rod will be packaged with Cybertronian Starscream from the Bumblebee movie. The 86 figures being in continuing Studio Series waves means that they are part of the same assortment and not an actual subline. We have the case contents below, which seem to ensure that Hot Rod will be very easy to find, unlike Scourge who you may want to troop build. Scourge may be repacked later, that is to be seen. We also have the case contents for the deluxe case that includes Kup, Jazz and Blurr.
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Voyager Wave 11 Case contains 3 individually packaged figures:
2x Hot Rod (1986 Movie)
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 SCOURGE
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Voyager Wave 12 Case contains 3 individually packaged figures:
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 HOT ROD
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY TF6 STARSCREAM
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Deluxe Case contains 8 individually packaged figures:
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 JAZZ
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 KUP
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 BLURR
All case details are found on Entertainment Earth.
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Voyager Wave 11 Case contains 3 individually packaged figures:
2x Hot Rod (1986 Movie)
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 SCOURGE
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Voyager Wave 12 Case contains 3 individually packaged figures:
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 HOT ROD
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY TF6 STARSCREAM
This Transformers Studio Series Premier Deluxe Case contains 8 individually packaged figures:
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 JAZZ
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 KUP
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX 86 BLURR
All case details are found on Entertainment Earth.
Credit(s): EE
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Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087887)
Posted by Betenoire on November 25th, 2020 @ 12:12pm CST
Posted by Betenoire on November 25th, 2020 @ 12:12pm CST
They are really counting on Hot Rod to be a seller if he has got 3 figs over 2 assortments compared to Starscream's 2 and Scourge's 1.
Wonder if that will work out as I seem to recall the Power of the Primes Rodimus was a bit of a shelf warmer around where I live.
Wonder if that will work out as I seem to recall the Power of the Primes Rodimus was a bit of a shelf warmer around where I live.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087890)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 25th, 2020 @ 1:39pm CST
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 25th, 2020 @ 1:39pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:It's about as good as it gets so far. Everything can be improved upon.King Kuuga wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SS 1986 Devastator anyone? Especially if they go the SS ROTF Devastator route, making something clearly superior from the substandard CW/UW versions.
According to the leaker Pixelmaster over on TFW, Hasbro considered an SS86 Devastator at one point, but shelved it and decided to reissue the CW one instead.
That's lazy.
Still, never say never. A "High quality" G1 Devastator will come sooner or later. One that have proper articulation points, is at the proper scale, dosen't feel like it's made out of margarine countainers, and is not full of hollow spots everywhere.
The CW/UW Devastator is about as good as it gets. The Studio Series Constructicons most definitely are not all that and a bag of chips. Their articulation is limited, they're full of hollow parts, there's paint bleed, and an awful lot of visible robot part syndrome. They lack features that the original ROTF molds had, and the combined mode can't balance and pose at the same time. At least UW can do that much. As I've said, my only gripe with the UW is the lack of solid ratchets on the shoulders and elbows. I don't need Hasbro to reinvent the wheel at twice the price for marginal improvements.
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087894)
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 2:40pm CST
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 2:40pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087900)
Posted by bacem on November 25th, 2020 @ 5:03pm CST
That doesn't look reversed to me
Posted by bacem on November 25th, 2020 @ 5:03pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
That doesn't look reversed to me
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087905)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 25th, 2020 @ 5:55pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 25th, 2020 @ 5:55pm CST
bacem wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
That doesn't look reversed to me
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087906)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 25th, 2020 @ 6:17pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 25th, 2020 @ 6:17pm CST
I didnt even know that was a thing with CW mixmaster, despite the fronts paint being placed on the rear of the vehicle I would never have had it facing that way around. Makes me even more glad I picked up the UW version.
As for case breakdown and Scourge being 1 per case it might not be a big deal if stores have the ability to order solid cases of one figure like they seem to have with other lines.
As for case breakdown and Scourge being 1 per case it might not be a big deal if stores have the ability to order solid cases of one figure like they seem to have with other lines.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087908)
Posted by Tuned Agent on November 25th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CST
It will be interesting to see. Hot Rod's Cyberverse toys stick around the shelves for a while in my area, so maybe his character isn't as popular with kids as Hasbro seems to think he is. Plus, Cliffjumper has been the shelfwarmer of ER in my area, whatever that says about figures especially small for their size class.
Posted by Tuned Agent on November 25th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CST
Betenoire wrote:They are really counting on Hot Rod to be a seller if he has got 3 figs over 2 assortments compared to Starscream's 2 and Scourge's 1.
Wonder if that will work out as I seem to recall the Power of the Primes Rodimus was a bit of a shelf warmer around where I live.
It will be interesting to see. Hot Rod's Cyberverse toys stick around the shelves for a while in my area, so maybe his character isn't as popular with kids as Hasbro seems to think he is. Plus, Cliffjumper has been the shelfwarmer of ER in my area, whatever that says about figures especially small for their size class.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087911)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on November 25th, 2020 @ 7:30pm CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on November 25th, 2020 @ 7:30pm CST
With a pretty substantial break until the next live action Studio Series figures, I thought it’d be fun to go through everyone’s top 3 figures from each size class for Studio Series so far. Pictures aren’t required but I figured I’d throw them in to spice things up.
Deluxe:
1. SS-49 Bumblebee (07 Concept Camaro)
2. DOTM Ratchet
3. DOTM Sideswipe
Voyager:
1. Ironhide
2. Starscream (07)
3. Sentinel Prime
Leader:
1. DOTM Optimus Prime
2. Blackout
3. Jetfire
Deluxe:
1. SS-49 Bumblebee (07 Concept Camaro)
2. DOTM Ratchet
3. DOTM Sideswipe
Voyager:
1. Ironhide
2. Starscream (07)
3. Sentinel Prime
Leader:
1. DOTM Optimus Prime
2. Blackout
3. Jetfire
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087914)
Posted by bacem on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:15pm CST
If we gonna count that one, then even CW version is already reversed then, since it does has paint on that area to make it look like windows.
I do not see that as reversed. It still don't look like driver area to me. Unless they remold that area to actually look like truck cab, it doesn't count.
Posted by bacem on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:15pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:bacem wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
That doesn't look reversed to me
If we gonna count that one, then even CW version is already reversed then, since it does has paint on that area to make it look like windows.
I do not see that as reversed. It still don't look like driver area to me. Unless they remold that area to actually look like truck cab, it doesn't count.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087918)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:43pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:43pm CST
some will likely be replaced by ss86 but going by what I have/would want in the case of voyager/leader.
Deluxe:
Bee Bumblebee bug
Cogman (if that's kinda cheating then sideswipe instead)
World War Bee
Voyager:
Nitro Zeus
Skywarp
Bee Prime
Leader:
Blackout
SS figure I've liked the least is Ratchet due to his ambulance mode being smaller than other SS car modes, felt like it was only displayable in bot mode.
Deluxe:
Bee Bumblebee bug
Cogman (if that's kinda cheating then sideswipe instead)
World War Bee
Voyager:
Nitro Zeus
Skywarp
Bee Prime
Leader:
Blackout
SS figure I've liked the least is Ratchet due to his ambulance mode being smaller than other SS car modes, felt like it was only displayable in bot mode.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087920)
Posted by Spider5800 on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:58pm CST
I like this game.
Deluxe:
1. Cogman. Love the Aston Martin he's based on, but never got a chance to purchase the original, so was excited to get this version. Plus, I think the new paint job is a big improvement.
2. Soundwave (Mercedes). Just gorgeous. Would probably be my number one if he had his gun.
3. Shatter (Harrier). The back kibble is a little much, but she looks great in both modes, and is a MASSIVE improvement on the first version of her.
Voyager:
1. Optimus Prime (Bumblebee). The perfect on-screen version of the character. Just a great mix of G1 and live-action sensibilities.
2. Blitzwing. Was not expecting to like this guy as much as I do, and yeah, it sucks that the jet mode isn't really an F4. But it's a fun figure regardless, and his bot mode is amazing.
3. Rampage. This was a huge improvement on the original, and they managed to make him screen accurate, even with his ridiculous pogo-stick body, and still sneak in stuff like his hand guns as part of his pistons.
Leader:
1. Grimlock (AoE). This thing was brilliant. They somehow managed to make him screen accurate in bot mode (they hid a SECOND t-rex head for his shoulders?) while still being properly imposing and fun to play with, in both modes.
2. Blackout. He's a bit of a pain to transform with all the panels, but he looks great in both modes, and still gets his proper weapon and a bonus Scorponok. Just a sweet looking toy.
3. Optimus Prime (DotM). Kind of a cheat on Hasbro's part here, since this is really a voyager figure with a bunch of accessories, but it's easily the best looking of the different versions of this mold, and he looks even better with his trailer in vehicle mode or his jetpack in bot mode. Probably would have been higher if they had used more of that paint on the accessories too, which is my only real gripe with him.
Posted by Spider5800 on November 25th, 2020 @ 8:58pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With a pretty substantial break until the next live action Studio Series figures, I thought it’d be fun to go through everyone’s top 3 figures from each size class for Studio Series so far.
I like this game.
Deluxe:
1. Cogman. Love the Aston Martin he's based on, but never got a chance to purchase the original, so was excited to get this version. Plus, I think the new paint job is a big improvement.
2. Soundwave (Mercedes). Just gorgeous. Would probably be my number one if he had his gun.
3. Shatter (Harrier). The back kibble is a little much, but she looks great in both modes, and is a MASSIVE improvement on the first version of her.
Voyager:
1. Optimus Prime (Bumblebee). The perfect on-screen version of the character. Just a great mix of G1 and live-action sensibilities.
2. Blitzwing. Was not expecting to like this guy as much as I do, and yeah, it sucks that the jet mode isn't really an F4. But it's a fun figure regardless, and his bot mode is amazing.
3. Rampage. This was a huge improvement on the original, and they managed to make him screen accurate, even with his ridiculous pogo-stick body, and still sneak in stuff like his hand guns as part of his pistons.
Leader:
1. Grimlock (AoE). This thing was brilliant. They somehow managed to make him screen accurate in bot mode (they hid a SECOND t-rex head for his shoulders?) while still being properly imposing and fun to play with, in both modes.
2. Blackout. He's a bit of a pain to transform with all the panels, but he looks great in both modes, and still gets his proper weapon and a bonus Scorponok. Just a sweet looking toy.
3. Optimus Prime (DotM). Kind of a cheat on Hasbro's part here, since this is really a voyager figure with a bunch of accessories, but it's easily the best looking of the different versions of this mold, and he looks even better with his trailer in vehicle mode or his jetpack in bot mode. Probably would have been higher if they had used more of that paint on the accessories too, which is my only real gripe with him.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087932)
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:01pm CST
Do you know of any solid case available in the Studio Series line? Because there doesn't seem to have been any in the 2 years of the line's existence.
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:01pm CST
blackeyedprime wrote:As for case breakdown and Scourge being 1 per case it might not be a big deal if stores have the ability to order solid cases of one figure like they seem to have with other lines.
Do you know of any solid case available in the Studio Series line? Because there doesn't seem to have been any in the 2 years of the line's existence.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087933)
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:16pm CST
It's got a grill, windows and exhaust pipes, looks like a barebones truck cab as any.
The point is Takara took a part that part and painted it to look like a truck cab. With the paint apps, it certainly looks more like a truck cab than the back of a cement mixer.
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:16pm CST
bacem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:bacem wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
The UW version already reversed Mixmaster so that's taken care of.
That doesn't look reversed to me
If we gonna count that one, then even CW version is already reversed then, since it does has paint on that area to make it look like windows.
I do not see that as reversed. It still don't look like driver area to me. Unless they remold that area to actually look like truck cab, it doesn't count.
It's got a grill, windows and exhaust pipes, looks like a barebones truck cab as any.
The point is Takara took a part that part and painted it to look like a truck cab. With the paint apps, it certainly looks more like a truck cab than the back of a cement mixer.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087934)
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:25pm CST
Great idea!
For deluxes, I would go with Car Dropkick, Ratchet (I just really like playing with the mold) and Soundwave.
For voyagers it goes to Sentinel Prime, Starscream and Movie 1 Megatron (But Ironhide, Scrapper and Blitzwing are all great too, voyagers are easily the standouts in this whole series).
For leaders it would be Grimlock, DOTM Megatron and mmm... Shockwave. I just really love that robot mode that so many flaws get drowned out.
Posted by william-james88 on November 25th, 2020 @ 11:25pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With a pretty substantial break until the next live action Studio Series figures, I thought it’d be fun to go through everyone’s top 3 figures from each size class for Studio Series so far. Pictures aren’t required but I figured I’d throw them in to spice things up.
Great idea!
For deluxes, I would go with Car Dropkick, Ratchet (I just really like playing with the mold) and Soundwave.
For voyagers it goes to Sentinel Prime, Starscream and Movie 1 Megatron (But Ironhide, Scrapper and Blitzwing are all great too, voyagers are easily the standouts in this whole series).
For leaders it would be Grimlock, DOTM Megatron and mmm... Shockwave. I just really love that robot mode that so many flaws get drowned out.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087945)
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on November 26th, 2020 @ 5:46am CST
I like this idea too,so here goes:
Deluxe:
1) Leadfoot, has grown on me so much since purchase, really fun design.
2) 07 Bumblebee, looks great and glad to finally have a deluxe Bee in camero form.
3) Lockdown, one of my favourite characters and love this toy.
Voyager:
1) Blitzwing, this is one of the few figures I keep coming back to and messing with, so fun and just looks imposing.
2) Scrapper, fell in love with this as soon as I transformed him, such a fun conversion.
3) Bonecrusher, not much to say other than I adore this guy.
Leader:
1) Jetfire, again one of my favourite characters and the Blackbird is one of my favourite aircraft, just adore this figure looks incredible.
2) Blackout, my first SS purchase and originally was meant to be the only one before I got roped in, definitely looks the part and a good first impression (clearly).
3) Scavenger, I like all the leaders in this line but Scavenger just feels so big and imposing, and forms part of my favourite SS figure, but on his own just looks great in my opinion.
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on November 26th, 2020 @ 5:46am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With a pretty substantial break until the next live action Studio Series figures, I thought it’d be fun to go through everyone’s top 3 figures from each size class for Studio Series so far.
I like this idea too,so here goes:
Deluxe:
1) Leadfoot, has grown on me so much since purchase, really fun design.
2) 07 Bumblebee, looks great and glad to finally have a deluxe Bee in camero form.
3) Lockdown, one of my favourite characters and love this toy.
Voyager:
1) Blitzwing, this is one of the few figures I keep coming back to and messing with, so fun and just looks imposing.
2) Scrapper, fell in love with this as soon as I transformed him, such a fun conversion.
3) Bonecrusher, not much to say other than I adore this guy.
Leader:
1) Jetfire, again one of my favourite characters and the Blackbird is one of my favourite aircraft, just adore this figure looks incredible.
2) Blackout, my first SS purchase and originally was meant to be the only one before I got roped in, definitely looks the part and a good first impression (clearly).
3) Scavenger, I like all the leaders in this line but Scavenger just feels so big and imposing, and forms part of my favourite SS figure, but on his own just looks great in my opinion.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087946)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 26th, 2020 @ 6:41am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 26th, 2020 @ 6:41am CST
I barely bought any SS figures so far so my list will only be one of each:
Deluxe: '07 Jazz. He's tiny, yes. But the car is perfect, the transformation is stellar and clever, and only the MPM have a more accurate robot mode. Very impressive.
Voyager: I was about to say '07 Starscream. But then I remembered that he needed massive amount of floor polish in his crotch plate joint. Plus these two chest panels that keep popping off in transformation. So, Bee Optimus is the champ. The bot is awesome and the only flaw of the truck mode is the back of the cab is a wee bit too thick. Regardless, this is one superbly designed bot.
Leader: AoE Grimlock. Simple yet imaginative transformation. Intimidating Zombie T-Rex mode. Breathtaking Death Knight mode. And a sick paint job rarely seen on retail figures. One of the very few leader class figures I bought at full price without any regrets!
Deluxe: '07 Jazz. He's tiny, yes. But the car is perfect, the transformation is stellar and clever, and only the MPM have a more accurate robot mode. Very impressive.
Voyager: I was about to say '07 Starscream. But then I remembered that he needed massive amount of floor polish in his crotch plate joint. Plus these two chest panels that keep popping off in transformation. So, Bee Optimus is the champ. The bot is awesome and the only flaw of the truck mode is the back of the cab is a wee bit too thick. Regardless, this is one superbly designed bot.
Leader: AoE Grimlock. Simple yet imaginative transformation. Intimidating Zombie T-Rex mode. Breathtaking Death Knight mode. And a sick paint job rarely seen on retail figures. One of the very few leader class figures I bought at full price without any regrets!
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087951)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 26th, 2020 @ 10:02am CST
If they can really do some magic with Mixmaster then great, but the UW version is perfect as is. Personally, I'd like to see them redo the figures they added joints to so the added bits don't stick out so much. Oh, and definitely tighten up the combined mode joints, I found that when posed for more than a day, the forearms got loose.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 26th, 2020 @ 10:02am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:It's about as good as it gets so far. Everything can be improved upon.King Kuuga wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SS 1986 Devastator anyone? Especially if they go the SS ROTF Devastator route, making something clearly superior from the substandard CW/UW versions.
According to the leaker Pixelmaster over on TFW, Hasbro considered an SS86 Devastator at one point, but shelved it and decided to reissue the CW one instead.
That's lazy.
Still, never say never. A "High quality" G1 Devastator will come sooner or later. One that have proper articulation points, is at the proper scale, dosen't feel like it's made out of margarine countainers, and is not full of hollow spots everywhere.
The CW/UW Devastator is about as good as it gets. The Studio Series Constructicons most definitely are not all that and a bag of chips. Their articulation is limited, they're full of hollow parts, there's paint bleed, and an awful lot of visible robot part syndrome. They lack features that the original ROTF molds had, and the combined mode can't balance and pose at the same time. At least UW can do that much. As I've said, my only gripe with the UW is the lack of solid ratchets on the shoulders and elbows. I don't need Hasbro to reinvent the wheel at twice the price for marginal improvements.
Like reversing Mixmaster and redoing Long Haul?
If they can really do some magic with Mixmaster then great, but the UW version is perfect as is. Personally, I'd like to see them redo the figures they added joints to so the added bits don't stick out so much. Oh, and definitely tighten up the combined mode joints, I found that when posed for more than a day, the forearms got loose.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087962)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on November 26th, 2020 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on November 26th, 2020 @ 4:11pm CST
Thanksgiving seems like a good time to list favorites. I’m at work so I don’t have time to find and use images - don’t want my doggy day camp to get out of hand.
Deluxe:
-1- Dropkick car version
-2- Offroad Bumblebee
-3- Shatter jet version
These three are the ones I have the most fun transforming repeatedly and I love the designs. Dropkick especially is one of my favorite Transformers just because I like the design so much and both modes look so clean. I actually bought an extra Dropkick just to keep on my desk to mess with.
Voyager:
-1- ‘07/RotF Starscream
-2- Blitzwing
-3- Long Haul
It’s so hard to choose 3 voyagers so a few others right there at the top for me are Ironhide, Thundercracker, and Scrapper. Studio Series voyagers are almost always great but these are my favorites to mess with and just how they look. Starscream is a neat flawless toy at the scale I always wanted (and finally with rotating hands!), Ironhide is essentially perfect and way too fun to transform, Blitzwing is crazy fun and was worth the long wait, Scrapper is just fun and cool, Long Haul I’ve been waiting to get a new toy of for a decade and Thundercracker was surprisingly great - the quality of the Nitro Zeus mold with much better colors and a great head sculpt.
Leader:
-1- Blackout
-2- Grimlock
-3- Shockwave
Panels or not, Blackout is nearly everything I wanted after buying the terrible old voyager off eBay. Huge, imposing, just awesome all around. Grimlock is more fun to mess with and transform, and was such a relief to open after not being a fan of any of the AoE and TLK toys. Also appropriately huge and intimidating but I was more excited to get Blackout in general. Shockwave just looks amazing and I don’t even care he has a dull alt mode, very cool.
I’ve gone 100% all in on Studio Series since the start (outside of Japan/con exclusives and unnecessary repaints like Camaro Bee with Charlie), only TF line I’ve ever done that with. Hope it can keep up a bit longer but if it does fade out more after SS86 and Dino/Cybertronian Bee (which I really want both of) I’ll be pretty satisfied
Deluxe:
-1- Dropkick car version
-2- Offroad Bumblebee
-3- Shatter jet version
These three are the ones I have the most fun transforming repeatedly and I love the designs. Dropkick especially is one of my favorite Transformers just because I like the design so much and both modes look so clean. I actually bought an extra Dropkick just to keep on my desk to mess with.
Voyager:
-1- ‘07/RotF Starscream
-2- Blitzwing
-3- Long Haul
It’s so hard to choose 3 voyagers so a few others right there at the top for me are Ironhide, Thundercracker, and Scrapper. Studio Series voyagers are almost always great but these are my favorites to mess with and just how they look. Starscream is a neat flawless toy at the scale I always wanted (and finally with rotating hands!), Ironhide is essentially perfect and way too fun to transform, Blitzwing is crazy fun and was worth the long wait, Scrapper is just fun and cool, Long Haul I’ve been waiting to get a new toy of for a decade and Thundercracker was surprisingly great - the quality of the Nitro Zeus mold with much better colors and a great head sculpt.
Leader:
-1- Blackout
-2- Grimlock
-3- Shockwave
Panels or not, Blackout is nearly everything I wanted after buying the terrible old voyager off eBay. Huge, imposing, just awesome all around. Grimlock is more fun to mess with and transform, and was such a relief to open after not being a fan of any of the AoE and TLK toys. Also appropriately huge and intimidating but I was more excited to get Blackout in general. Shockwave just looks amazing and I don’t even care he has a dull alt mode, very cool.
I’ve gone 100% all in on Studio Series since the start (outside of Japan/con exclusives and unnecessary repaints like Camaro Bee with Charlie), only TF line I’ve ever done that with. Hope it can keep up a bit longer but if it does fade out more after SS86 and Dino/Cybertronian Bee (which I really want both of) I’ll be pretty satisfied
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2087979)
Posted by Emerje on November 26th, 2020 @ 10:54pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 26th, 2020 @ 10:54pm CST
Well, Target cancelled my Skipjack due to unforeseen circumstances. Guess I'm paying extra to get one in store.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088016)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 27th, 2020 @ 5:23pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 27th, 2020 @ 5:23pm CST
Tonton is a early bird again with a video review if SS Bee Starscream!
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088022)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 27th, 2020 @ 5:47pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 27th, 2020 @ 5:47pm CST
Toe balls...he should be more carefull of getting his foot trapped if that is where he keeps them
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088035)
Posted by Dominus Prime on November 28th, 2020 @ 12:03am CST
Posted by Dominus Prime on November 28th, 2020 @ 12:03am CST
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088036)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 28th, 2020 @ 12:04am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 28th, 2020 @ 12:04am CST
Two posts above yours.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088045)
Posted by william-james88 on November 28th, 2020 @ 7:30am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 28th, 2020 @ 7:30am CST
Many of you sent in that Tonton has a review of Transformers Studio Series 72 Voyager Transformers: Bumblebee Starscream. You can view it below along with the product description. This toy is not due out at retail until July next year.
This Studio Series 72 Voyager Class Transformers: Bumblebee-inspired Starscream figure converts from robot to tetrajet mode in 31 steps. Remove backdrop to showcase Starscream in the Cybertron Falls scene. In the Cybertron Falls scene from Transformers: Bumblebee, the Autobot resistance retreats to escape the planet as Cybertron falls under Decepticon control. Starscream and the seekers destroy the Autobot launchpad in an effort the prevent their escape. Pose the figure out with the included Null Ray accessories and imagine recreating this classic movie moment!
This Studio Series 72 Voyager Class Transformers: Bumblebee-inspired Starscream figure converts from robot to tetrajet mode in 31 steps. Remove backdrop to showcase Starscream in the Cybertron Falls scene. In the Cybertron Falls scene from Transformers: Bumblebee, the Autobot resistance retreats to escape the planet as Cybertron falls under Decepticon control. Starscream and the seekers destroy the Autobot launchpad in an effort the prevent their escape. Pose the figure out with the included Null Ray accessories and imagine recreating this classic movie moment!
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088069)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on November 28th, 2020 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on November 28th, 2020 @ 4:11pm CST
Just got back from break! I finally opened the Scavenger I bought months ago, and I thought I would talk about Scavenger first before trying combined mode. Then, of course, this happened.
Holy CRAP, this thing is insane - and this is only the top half! Still need Overload and Skipjack.
Holy CRAP, this thing is insane - and this is only the top half! Still need Overload and Skipjack.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088652)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2020 @ 9:20am CST
I'll bite, these are always fun.
Deluxe:
1) Jazz - little, fun, shiny, and just a joy to have
2) Jet Shatter - such a fun and accurate mold, and it feels good to play with.
3) Leadfoot - finally have a deluxe toy of him, he is super fun, well engineered, and I love armored NASCAR cars
Honorable mentions: Car Dropkick, 2007 Bumblebee, Stinger, Jeep Bee
Voyager:
1) Rampage - still a great figure, fun to play with, and nice and dense. Mean looking with great paint
2) 2007 Megatron - nice big voyager with a mace, awesome jet mode, and silver. Well done
3) Sentinel Prime - just solid, great use of panels, sculpting it perfect.
Honorable Mentions: RotF Starscream, Mixmaster, Scrapper Bonecrusher
Leader:
1) DotM Prime - this was a long time dream come true, I love that they got the jetpack and armament ring out of the trailer. Perfection.
2) Scavenger - always loved the design, and the toy is such a nice improvement. it's great, I love it.
3) AOE Grimlock - a big, chonky boy. the paint work and detail is to die for. Really fun to mess with.
Honorable mentions: Overload, DotM Megatron, Shockwave, Blackout
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2020 @ 9:20am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With a pretty substantial break until the next live action Studio Series figures, I thought it’d be fun to go through everyone’s top 3 figures from each size class for Studio Series so far. Pictures aren’t required but I figured I’d throw them in to spice things up.
I'll bite, these are always fun.
Deluxe:
1) Jazz - little, fun, shiny, and just a joy to have
2) Jet Shatter - such a fun and accurate mold, and it feels good to play with.
3) Leadfoot - finally have a deluxe toy of him, he is super fun, well engineered, and I love armored NASCAR cars
Honorable mentions: Car Dropkick, 2007 Bumblebee, Stinger, Jeep Bee
Voyager:
1) Rampage - still a great figure, fun to play with, and nice and dense. Mean looking with great paint
2) 2007 Megatron - nice big voyager with a mace, awesome jet mode, and silver. Well done
3) Sentinel Prime - just solid, great use of panels, sculpting it perfect.
Honorable Mentions: RotF Starscream, Mixmaster, Scrapper Bonecrusher
Leader:
1) DotM Prime - this was a long time dream come true, I love that they got the jetpack and armament ring out of the trailer. Perfection.
2) Scavenger - always loved the design, and the toy is such a nice improvement. it's great, I love it.
3) AOE Grimlock - a big, chonky boy. the paint work and detail is to die for. Really fun to mess with.
Honorable mentions: Overload, DotM Megatron, Shockwave, Blackout
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088907)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 5th, 2020 @ 7:26pm CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 5th, 2020 @ 7:26pm CST
What goes around comes around, Bee!
I gotta say, I can't believe I almost missed out on Stinger, thankfully Kroger had one on sale long after it had disappeared from retail. It's a really fun figure; it does lack a little in the accuracy department, but I really appreciate what they tried to do with the figure. Painting it up was really fun! (except where part of one of the shoulder pieces broke off. That's not good.)
I gotta say, I can't believe I almost missed out on Stinger, thankfully Kroger had one on sale long after it had disappeared from retail. It's a really fun figure; it does lack a little in the accuracy department, but I really appreciate what they tried to do with the figure. Painting it up was really fun! (except where part of one of the shoulder pieces broke off. That's not good.)
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088923)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 5th, 2020 @ 10:00pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 5th, 2020 @ 10:00pm CST
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088933)
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 6th, 2020 @ 8:03am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 6th, 2020 @ 8:03am CST
For all my complaints about the figure it's a nice version of him botmode wise. The things third party or a repaint couldn't fix is the shoulder joints and the alignment of the car hood/lights. Def not willing to pay more for it than my ko hotrod (£17 vs a £25 figure) that I'm still more than happy with as well as my Takara MP Rod/Rodimus.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088935)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2020 @ 9:06am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2020 @ 9:06am CST
I was gonna pass on this, because I already have plenty of Hot Rods but the screen accuracy makes it awful tempting.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088950)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 6th, 2020 @ 12:47pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 6th, 2020 @ 12:47pm CST
Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user and YouTube toy reviewer, Chuckdawg1999, has let us know he's posted a new review! This time, he's turned his focus to one of the highly anticipated releases in the Studio Series line next year; Transformers: The Movie Voyager Class Hot Rod!
In his informative review Chuck even points out a flaw within Hot Rod's instructions, ensuring you don't have any problems when you get your hands on this figure!
We have embedded the review below for your convenience:
Hot Rod is among the first figures revealed to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the Transformers animated movie next year. Unlike previous assumptions, the Studio Series 86 figures are not a subline and will be in mixed waves along with figures from the live action movies.
What do you think of this Hot Rod? Are you planning to get him? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
In his informative review Chuck even points out a flaw within Hot Rod's instructions, ensuring you don't have any problems when you get your hands on this figure!
We have embedded the review below for your convenience:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you're a fan of Hot Rod and/or The Transformers: The Movie, you need to have this figure. This is the best version of Hot Rod.
Hot Rod is among the first figures revealed to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the Transformers animated movie next year. Unlike previous assumptions, the Studio Series 86 figures are not a subline and will be in mixed waves along with figures from the live action movies.
What do you think of this Hot Rod? Are you planning to get him? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088959)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 6th, 2020 @ 3:09pm CST
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 6th, 2020 @ 3:09pm CST
I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088963)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:12pm CST
I really don't understand that decision either... Although imo, the yellow in the knees is worse because it's seen in the robot mode.
Nice review, Chuck!
I haven't been this excited for figures in a long time... Since UW Computron & Abominus, MP Megatron has been about the most recent "peak" for me. And I really appreciate the ER seekers and a couple others from that line.
But Grimlock, Scourge, Hot Rod, and hopefully Slag have me feeling an anticipation and kid-like excitement I haven't felt in what seems like way longer than the 3+ years it's been. I suppose I can throw Galvatron into this mix (assuming he's good), and probably Cyclonus as well.
I'm glad I have MP Starscream on preorder; that's definitely something to look forward to.
But now I've started wondering what it will take in the future to match the figures from this SS86 line.
The bar of expectations has been substantially raised. Especially considering it won't be long before a little deluxe figure costs $25+.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:12pm CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I really don't understand that decision either... Although imo, the yellow in the knees is worse because it's seen in the robot mode.
Nice review, Chuck!
I haven't been this excited for figures in a long time... Since UW Computron & Abominus, MP Megatron has been about the most recent "peak" for me. And I really appreciate the ER seekers and a couple others from that line.
But Grimlock, Scourge, Hot Rod, and hopefully Slag have me feeling an anticipation and kid-like excitement I haven't felt in what seems like way longer than the 3+ years it's been. I suppose I can throw Galvatron into this mix (assuming he's good), and probably Cyclonus as well.
I'm glad I have MP Starscream on preorder; that's definitely something to look forward to.
But now I've started wondering what it will take in the future to match the figures from this SS86 line.
The bar of expectations has been substantially raised. Especially considering it won't be long before a little deluxe figure costs $25+.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088966)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:42pm CST
"Improper" mold planning here, at least the parts gang-molded with the spoiler are small and mostly joints.
I still like my Classics molds, but... can I say that the SS looks too much like the cartoon for me?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:42pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I really don't understand that decision either... Although imo, the yellow in the knees is worse because it's seen in the robot mode.
"Improper" mold planning here, at least the parts gang-molded with the spoiler are small and mostly joints.
I still like my Classics molds, but... can I say that the SS looks too much like the cartoon for me?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088967)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:49pm CST
Too much like the cartoon? 
Intriguing is it because you think the deco is bland or other reasons?
Intriguing is it because you think the deco is bland or other reasons?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088968)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:49pm CST
I'm still really disappointed about the faux-parts chest. We've seen from Animated and Titans Return/Legends that Hot Rod's design can easily be done without resorting to that...
I was super-hyped for him right up until I realized they'd phoned it in like that, and now I just don't know.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:49pm CST
The explanation for the use of yellow plastic for that hinge is the same as it usually is for odd color placements like that: Our old "friend" mold layout. Sometimes the sprue with the color that would blend runs out of room, so a part gets kicked to a different sprue.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I'm still really disappointed about the faux-parts chest. We've seen from Animated and Titans Return/Legends that Hot Rod's design can easily be done without resorting to that...
I was super-hyped for him right up until I realized they'd phoned it in like that, and now I just don't know.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088969)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:53pm CST
Yeah the “mis-colored” parts aren’t really any big deal.
I also still really appreciate the Classics mold, & will never get rid of my Henkel Hot Rod!
Of course you can say that... It’s just an interesting opinion; is the Classics mold your ideal?
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:53pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I really don't understand that decision either... Although imo, the yellow in the knees is worse because it's seen in the robot mode.
"Improper" mold planning here, at least the parts gang-molded with the spoiler are small and mostly joints.
I still like my Classics molds, but... can I say that the SS looks too much like the cartoon for me?
Yeah the “mis-colored” parts aren’t really any big deal.
I also still really appreciate the Classics mold, & will never get rid of my Henkel Hot Rod!
Of course you can say that... It’s just an interesting opinion; is the Classics mold your ideal?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088970)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:54pm CST
It's the figure itself, odd as it sounds. It simply looks too perfect.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 4:54pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Too much like the cartoon?
It's the figure itself, odd as it sounds. It simply looks too perfect.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088976)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 6th, 2020 @ 5:43pm CST
Does that bring it down enough to help?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 6th, 2020 @ 5:43pm CST
Well, here's a mark against its appearance: It's not magenta.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Too much like the cartoon?
It's the figure itself, odd as it sounds. It simply looks too perfect.
Does that bring it down enough to help?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088981)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 6th, 2020 @ 6:13pm CST
Animated is a different look that isn't meant to represent the G1 toy/design. TR/Legends has two different chest transformations that will give you a solid torso, or the chest you want with gaps in the torso. I think MP-09 was the only one to be able to pull off a proper hood/chest transformation.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 6th, 2020 @ 6:13pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The explanation for the use of yellow plastic for that hinge is the same as it usually is for odd color placements like that: Our old "friend" mold layout. Sometimes the sprue with the color that would blend runs out of room, so a part gets kicked to a different sprue.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I'm still really disappointed about the faux-parts chest. We've seen from Animated and Titans Return/Legends that Hot Rod's design can easily be done without resorting to that...
Animated is a different look that isn't meant to represent the G1 toy/design. TR/Legends has two different chest transformations that will give you a solid torso, or the chest you want with gaps in the torso. I think MP-09 was the only one to be able to pull off a proper hood/chest transformation.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088987)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 6th, 2020 @ 7:38pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 6th, 2020 @ 7:38pm CST
Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088990)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2020 @ 7:54pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2020 @ 7:54pm CST
He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2088997)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 8:53pm CST
And be big enough to house Titan Devastator!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 6th, 2020 @ 8:53pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
And be big enough to house Titan Devastator!
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089000)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 6th, 2020 @ 9:26pm CST
Neither of those examples prove that you can do specifically the cartoon-style transformation of his hood without faux parts, because neither of those are particularly styled like the cartoon version. As is, cartoon Hot Rod's actual hood in vehicle mode and chest hood in robot mode are genuinely different shapes (robot mode has an angled bend about half-way through that the vehicle mode's doesn't have, as well as different shaping to the edge), so it's kind of impossible to pull it off as accurate in both modes as this figure does without faux parts.
Absolutely the most he might possibly get is a clean redeco of the Siege/Earthrise figure. There's no way they're doing a second brand new Leader-class design in 2 years for Astrotrain of all characters.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 6th, 2020 @ 9:26pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The explanation for the use of yellow plastic for that hinge is the same as it usually is for odd color placements like that: Our old "friend" mold layout. Sometimes the sprue with the color that would blend runs out of room, so a part gets kicked to a different sprue.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I have every official mold of G1 Hot Rod (that transforms) and am VERY excited to add this guy to my collection.
My only complaint is the baffling use of yellow plastic in car mode. Hopefully it's something reprolabels can fix. But it's not bad enough for me to take a pass on, that's for sure. But he looks incredible regardless.
I'm still really disappointed about the faux-parts chest. We've seen from Animated and Titans Return/Legends that Hot Rod's design can easily be done without resorting to that...
Neither of those examples prove that you can do specifically the cartoon-style transformation of his hood without faux parts, because neither of those are particularly styled like the cartoon version. As is, cartoon Hot Rod's actual hood in vehicle mode and chest hood in robot mode are genuinely different shapes (robot mode has an angled bend about half-way through that the vehicle mode's doesn't have, as well as different shaping to the edge), so it's kind of impossible to pull it off as accurate in both modes as this figure does without faux parts.
Rodimus Prime wrote:He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Absolutely the most he might possibly get is a clean redeco of the Siege/Earthrise figure. There's no way they're doing a second brand new Leader-class design in 2 years for Astrotrain of all characters.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089004)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 11:11pm CST
This. This is pretty spot-on.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 6th, 2020 @ 11:11pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Neither of those examples prove that you can do specifically the cartoon-style transformation of his hood without faux parts, because neither of those are particularly styled like the cartoon version. As is, cartoon Hot Rod's actual hood in vehicle mode and chest hood in robot mode are genuinely different shapes (robot mode has an angled bend about half-way through that the vehicle mode's doesn't have, as well as different shaping to the edge), so it's kind of impossible to pull it off as accurate in both modes as this figure does without faux parts.
This. This is pretty spot-on.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089005)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 6th, 2020 @ 11:44pm CST
Impossible for just a redeco in the SS line. It WILL be a new mold. Same thing for Arcee.
And as we all saw since years, the SS line is not and was never about rushing things. It may still be some years before we see a SS Astrotrain, Arcee, or even maybe Optimus and (gasp!) Megatron. But they WILL happen. And all in brand new molds.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 6th, 2020 @ 11:44pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Absolutely the most he might possibly get is a clean redeco of the Siege/Earthrise figure. There's no way they're doing a second brand new Leader-class design in 2 years for Astrotrain of all characters.
Impossible for just a redeco in the SS line. It WILL be a new mold. Same thing for Arcee.
And as we all saw since years, the SS line is not and was never about rushing things. It may still be some years before we see a SS Astrotrain, Arcee, or even maybe Optimus and (gasp!) Megatron. But they WILL happen. And all in brand new molds.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089006)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 7th, 2020 @ 12:02am CST
I think a lot of y'all are SERIOUSLY overestimating the breadth Studio Series 86 will have. It's only supposed to essentially be overflow to make the 86 Movie characters they wanted to make for the 35th Anniversary of the Movie, while making room for Beast Wars characters (for its 25th Anniversary) in Kingdom, while padding Studio Series out until the next movie comes. The fact they're repacking Earthrise Arcee, Wheeljack, and Optimus in Kingdom the same time they're starting Studio Series 86, and releasing other 86 Movie characters in Kingdom, should tell you they feel those molds are probably good enough to represent those versions of the characters at those price points for now.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 7th, 2020 @ 12:02am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Absolutely the most he might possibly get is a clean redeco of the Siege/Earthrise figure. There's no way they're doing a second brand new Leader-class design in 2 years for Astrotrain of all characters.
Impossible for just a redeco in the SS line. It WILL be a new mold. Same thing for Arcee.
And as we all saw since years, the SS line is not and was never about rushing things. It may still be some years before we see a SS Astrotrain, Arcee, or even maybe Optimus and (gasp!) Megatron. But they WILL happen. And all in brand new molds.
I think a lot of y'all are SERIOUSLY overestimating the breadth Studio Series 86 will have. It's only supposed to essentially be overflow to make the 86 Movie characters they wanted to make for the 35th Anniversary of the Movie, while making room for Beast Wars characters (for its 25th Anniversary) in Kingdom, while padding Studio Series out until the next movie comes. The fact they're repacking Earthrise Arcee, Wheeljack, and Optimus in Kingdom the same time they're starting Studio Series 86, and releasing other 86 Movie characters in Kingdom, should tell you they feel those molds are probably good enough to represent those versions of the characters at those price points for now.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089012)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 7th, 2020 @ 3:20am CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 7th, 2020 @ 3:20am CST
Kanrabat, if we ever get another rehash of Astrotrain it'll be in whatever the regular Generations line is at the time. And I mean, looking at Hot Rod... I wouldn't bank on a mold made for Studio Series giving you any improvement but the non-C.O.M.B.A.T. feet.
TR/Legends Roddy meanwhile is heavily designed to resemble the cartoon - that's why the canopy is hidden away in robot mode, that's why the rear wheels fold behind the legs to give a clean appearance, that's why he has 3 pipes to a side instead of the Classics version's two, that's why he has the cuffs, why the hood forms his chest just like in the cartoon and original toy, and why on the Legends version the exposed engine block flips around to be replaced by his chest panel. If he's not designed or styled like the cartoon version, then neither is the Classics Seeker mold.
The angled bend in robot mode is nothing but a warped version of the hood's curvature in altmode, and can be safely discarded in favor just using the actual, curved hood. The pointed edge in altmode can be likewise thrown out or it can be accommodated by tucking the pointy part in (via the same mechanism as Titans Return, just cut differently). Ta-da! Hot Rod chest that looks plenty like the cartoon, without the transformation unnecessarily jumping through hoops or using faux-parts.
Mm.. The look, no. But as for the design, his transformation layout owes a lot to G1 Hot Rod: The hood becomes the chest while the sides of the car become his arms, with the park lights ending up in his shoulders. And he has the engine flip away to reveal a chest panel, proving that that's not a valid reason for faux-parts. That's the main reason I brought him up, really.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Animated is a different look that isn't meant to represent the G1 toy/design.
The ideal is a hybridization of the two flavors of the chest transformation: The solid sides and tabs - and, if necessary, an altered version of the bumper tuck - of the TR version, combined with the no-cutout front and flip-away engine of the Legends version. Boom, perfectly good Hot Rod chest.chuckdawg1999 wrote:TR/Legends has two different chest transformations that will give you a solid torso, or the chest you want with gaps in the torso. I think MP-09 was the only one to be able to pull off a proper hood/chest transformation.
Animated Rodimus may not be styled like the cartoon version, no, but he's still strongly influenced by G1 Hot Rod's cartoon parts layout. Including hiding the engine, which was why I brought him up.Jeddostotle7 wrote:Neither of those examples prove that you can do specifically the cartoon-style transformation of his hood without faux parts, because neither of those are particularly styled like the cartoon version.
TR/Legends Roddy meanwhile is heavily designed to resemble the cartoon - that's why the canopy is hidden away in robot mode, that's why the rear wheels fold behind the legs to give a clean appearance, that's why he has 3 pipes to a side instead of the Classics version's two, that's why he has the cuffs, why the hood forms his chest just like in the cartoon and original toy, and why on the Legends version the exposed engine block flips around to be replaced by his chest panel. If he's not designed or styled like the cartoon version, then neither is the Classics Seeker mold.
"The animation model doesn't draw the part consistently between modes" is not generally a good reason for using faux-parts - it falls under what I call "Cartoon accuracy to the point of stupidity". In cases like that, the designers should call the animation on its sheer nonsense and just use the actual part for the job it's obviously supposed to do rather than sacrifice the transformation quality for a questionable visual gain.Jeddostotle7 wrote:As is, cartoon Hot Rod's actual hood in vehicle mode and chest hood in robot mode are genuinely different shapes (robot mode has an angled bend about half-way through that the vehicle mode's doesn't have, as well as different shaping to the edge), so it's kind of impossible to pull it off as accurate in both modes as this figure does without faux parts.
The angled bend in robot mode is nothing but a warped version of the hood's curvature in altmode, and can be safely discarded in favor just using the actual, curved hood. The pointed edge in altmode can be likewise thrown out or it can be accommodated by tucking the pointy part in (via the same mechanism as Titans Return, just cut differently). Ta-da! Hot Rod chest that looks plenty like the cartoon, without the transformation unnecessarily jumping through hoops or using faux-parts.
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089014)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 7th, 2020 @ 3:29am CST
Very well put, I feel they've reached the apex of what can be done with g1 prime for the moment, and megatron will be another tank if they do him again so don't be surprised if you never see him in the line. Same reason you won't see Cyclonus in Studio Series
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 7th, 2020 @ 3:29am CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He was in the movie, in a short but important role. He should get a figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege/Earthrise Astrotrain is a nice toy, but it's severily undermined by the line's gimmicks.
So any chances of a new Leader '86 Astrotrain that is a proper "mini MP" with no superflous extra bits for the SS line?
Absolutely the most he might possibly get is a clean redeco of the Siege/Earthrise figure. There's no way they're doing a second brand new Leader-class design in 2 years for Astrotrain of all characters.
Impossible for just a redeco in the SS line. It WILL be a new mold. Same thing for Arcee.
And as we all saw since years, the SS line is not and was never about rushing things. It may still be some years before we see a SS Astrotrain, Arcee, or even maybe Optimus and (gasp!) Megatron. But they WILL happen. And all in brand new molds.
I think a lot of y'all are SERIOUSLY overestimating the breadth Studio Series 86 will have. It's only supposed to essentially be overflow to make the 86 Movie characters they wanted to make for the 35th Anniversary of the Movie, while making room for Beast Wars characters (for its 25th Anniversary) in Kingdom, while padding Studio Series out until the next movie comes. The fact they're repacking Earthrise Arcee, Wheeljack, and Optimus in Kingdom the same time they're starting Studio Series 86, and releasing other 86 Movie characters in Kingdom, should tell you they feel those molds are probably good enough to represent those versions of the characters at those price points for now.
Very well put, I feel they've reached the apex of what can be done with g1 prime for the moment, and megatron will be another tank if they do him again so don't be surprised if you never see him in the line. Same reason you won't see Cyclonus in Studio Series
Re: Case Contents Confirm that Studio Series 86 figures are Not a Subline but part of the Main Line (2089020)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 7th, 2020 @ 5:05am CST
I'm just gonna say: I prefer how Studio Series 86 Hot Rod looks a lot more than any of the Masterpiece Hot Rods, or even just about any other Hot Rod/Rodimus figure ever, including the TR and Animated molds you mention, and a good part of that is the use of the faux part for the chest to actually get his chest looking the way it does in the cartoon. Hot Rod is one of those few characters where the cartoon-style warping is really, really, really important to the look of the robot mode IMO, and unless they can figure out a hood that can change shape to mimic both forms, I think the faux parts are just the better option; same situation as Optimus' abdominal section. Maybe I would be more mixed or negative on it if the use of the faux part resulted in an obvious hood backpack or something, but he also cleans up so nicely that it's hard to care in this instance.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 7th, 2020 @ 5:05am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Kanrabat, if we ever get another rehash of Astrotrain it'll be in whatever the regular Generations line is at the time. And I mean, looking at Hot Rod... I wouldn't bank on a mold made for Studio Series giving you any improvement but the non-C.O.M.B.A.T. feet.Mm.. The look, no. But as for the design, his transformation layout owes a lot to G1 Hot Rod: The hood becomes the chest while the sides of the car become his arms, with the park lights ending up in his shoulders. And he has the engine flip away to reveal a chest panel, proving that that's not a valid reason for faux-parts. That's the main reason I brought him up, really.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Animated is a different look that isn't meant to represent the G1 toy/design.The ideal is a hybridization of the two flavors of the chest transformation: The solid sides and tabs - and, if necessary, an altered version of the bumper tuck - of the TR version, combined with the no-cutout front and flip-away engine of the Legends version. Boom, perfectly good Hot Rod chest.chuckdawg1999 wrote:TR/Legends has two different chest transformations that will give you a solid torso, or the chest you want with gaps in the torso. I think MP-09 was the only one to be able to pull off a proper hood/chest transformation.Animated Rodimus may not be styled like the cartoon version, no, but he's still strongly influenced by G1 Hot Rod's cartoon parts layout. Including hiding the engine, which was why I brought him up.Jeddostotle7 wrote:Neither of those examples prove that you can do specifically the cartoon-style transformation of his hood without faux parts, because neither of those are particularly styled like the cartoon version.
TR/Legends Roddy meanwhile is heavily designed to resemble the cartoon - that's why the canopy is hidden away in robot mode, that's why the rear wheels fold behind the legs to give a clean appearance, that's why he has 3 pipes to a side instead of the Classics version's two, that's why he has the cuffs, why the hood forms his chest just like in the cartoon and original toy, and why on the Legends version the exposed engine block flips around to be replaced by his chest panel. If he's not designed or styled like the cartoon version, then neither is the Classics Seeker mold."The animation model doesn't draw the part consistently between modes" is not generally a good reason for using faux-parts - it falls under what I call "Cartoon accuracy to the point of stupidity". In cases like that, the designers should call the animation on its sheer nonsense and just use the actual part for the job it's obviously supposed to do rather than sacrifice the transformation quality for a questionable visual gain.Jeddostotle7 wrote:As is, cartoon Hot Rod's actual hood in vehicle mode and chest hood in robot mode are genuinely different shapes (robot mode has an angled bend about half-way through that the vehicle mode's doesn't have, as well as different shaping to the edge), so it's kind of impossible to pull it off as accurate in both modes as this figure does without faux parts.
The angled bend in robot mode is nothing but a warped version of the hood's curvature in altmode, and can be safely discarded in favor just using the actual, curved hood. The pointed edge in altmode can be likewise thrown out or it can be accommodated by tucking the pointy part in (via the same mechanism as Titans Return, just cut differently). Ta-da! Hot Rod chest that looks plenty like the cartoon, without the transformation unnecessarily jumping through hoops or using faux-parts.
I'm just gonna say: I prefer how Studio Series 86 Hot Rod looks a lot more than any of the Masterpiece Hot Rods, or even just about any other Hot Rod/Rodimus figure ever, including the TR and Animated molds you mention, and a good part of that is the use of the faux part for the chest to actually get his chest looking the way it does in the cartoon. Hot Rod is one of those few characters where the cartoon-style warping is really, really, really important to the look of the robot mode IMO, and unless they can figure out a hood that can change shape to mimic both forms, I think the faux parts are just the better option; same situation as Optimus' abdominal section. Maybe I would be more mixed or negative on it if the use of the faux part resulted in an obvious hood backpack or something, but he also cleans up so nicely that it's hard to care in this instance.
