Differences Between Earthrise and Legacy Evolution Dirge
Monday, July 10th, 2023 9:42AM CDT
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The most notable difference is found with the wings, though it may be noted that a quick internet search shows there was some awareness of this change already. The Earthrise release, seen below on the left, features painted plastic wings whereas the Legacy Evolution release, on the right, is molded as tan plastic. This creates a matte versus gloss finish difference that immediately jumps out when putting the two toys side-by-side.
The "knee" paint is also noticeably different in the newer release. Earthrise Dirge features very purple knees (or perhaps kneepads if you prefer), as seen on the left once again in the image below. Meanwhile, the Legacy Evolution version sports a much redder shade of paint, landing somewhere between purple and lilac.
And those two small changes are really it, at least as far as this Transformers toy collector can tell. For most collectors these are not practical differences and add no reason to keep two extremely similar Dirge toys on the shelf, but it's always fun to see some variation when the same toy gets released years after its first outing.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 10th, 2023 @ 10:32am CDT
So for the hardcore collector, that's a good thing.
Posted by Overcracker on July 10th, 2023 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2023 @ 12:13pm CDT
Make Glitch from the Studio Series Gamer Edition Bumblebee/Cliffjumper mold.
https://twitter.com/markerguru/status/1678078904605474817
Glitch pencil commission done for @tfconofficial
#Transformers #Hasbro #MTMTE #Tarn #commission #TFcon
https://twitter.com/markerguru/status/822606066752036864
well if you go back to see Glitch's body in Shadowplay you might notice it's based on WFC bee's body
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 10th, 2023 @ 2:34pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2023 @ 3:17pm CDT
Yeah I already got the tracking email, says Wednesday. Neato!AcademyofDrX wrote:Pulse just charged for (the) Nemesis. Hopefully I'll have it in-hand in just a few days.
Posted by Emerje on July 10th, 2023 @ 7:13pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:This won't remove any value of the original.
So for the hardcore collector, that's a good thing.
On the contrary, this sucks for hardcore collectors because now we have to buy a second Dirge to get all of the mold variations...
ScottyP wrote:Yeah I already got the tracking email, says Wednesday. Neato!AcademyofDrX wrote:Pulse just charged for (the) Nemesis. Hopefully I'll have it in-hand in just a few days.
I wonder if Amazon will bump up their release date then, it currently says next week.
Emerje
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 10th, 2023 @ 7:18pm CDT
Emerje wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:This won't remove any value of the original.
So for the hardcore collector, that's a good thing.
On the contrary, this sucks for hardcore collectors because now we have to buy a second Dirge to get all of the mold variations...ScottyP wrote:Yeah I already got the tracking email, says Wednesday. Neato!AcademyofDrX wrote:Pulse just charged for (the) Nemesis. Hopefully I'll have it in-hand in just a few days.
I wonder if Amazon will bump up their release date then, it currently says next week.
Emerje
BBTS already got theirs in, too
Posted by Munkky on July 11th, 2023 @ 1:20pm CDT
I remember there was a leaked product listing a while ago for "ROBO WILD RIDE" that some speculated was X-Brawn because "Wild Ride" is his Japanese name, but until we know more I still suspect that listing is just a Wildrider repaint, maybe his G2 colours for the Toxitron Collection.
Posted by Overcracker on July 11th, 2023 @ 2:57pm CDT
Munkky wrote:While I was re-arranging my Transformer shelves today I started thinking about the upcoming Shadow Striker and her (probable if not very, very likely) repaint/retool into Side Burn. If Prowl and X-Brawn get new toys, if they're not original moulds (obviously it would be better if they were, but if that's not an option), which existing figures would work as retools?
I remember there was a leaked product listing a while ago for "ROBO WILD RIDE" that some speculated was X-Brawn because "Wild Ride" is his Japanese name, but until we know more I still suspect that listing is just a Wildrider repaint, maybe his G2 colours for the Toxitron Collection.
While Prowl could potentially be a Sunstreaker or Sideswipe retool, I just don't see how any other figure can be used for X-Brawn.
That big massive, Mercedes SUV front end for a forearm can't be done from an existing mold.
I'd expect all 3 to be new molds, since they have some repaints pretty much built in. I'm sure the Shadow Striker pre-tool was just them tying to avoid the Super side Burn repaint in Hot Rod red and flames.
But for the other 2, the repaints are easy and right there.
There are of course also, these 2 color schemes for them, that would work nicely in their Walmart G2 line.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 11th, 2023 @ 3:05pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:While Prowl could potentially be a Sunstreaker or Sideswipe retool, I just don't see how any other figure can be used for X-Brawn.
I think I see Clampdown weeping in the corner...
Posted by Overcracker on July 11th, 2023 @ 3:45pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Overcracker wrote:While Prowl could potentially be a Sunstreaker or Sideswipe retool, I just don't see how any other figure can be used for X-Brawn.
I think I see Clampdown weeping in the corner...
Well, Clampdown is already a retool of Sideswipe. So a retool of a retool I guess.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 11th, 2023 @ 3:47pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Overcracker wrote:While Prowl could potentially be a Sunstreaker or Sideswipe retool, I just don't see how any other figure can be used for X-Brawn.
I think I see Clampdown weeping in the corner...
Well, Clampdown is already a retool of Sideswipe. So a retool of a retool I guess.
And a Police Car to boot.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2023 @ 3:59pm CDT
It was "ROBO WLD RDR", indicating "Rider" rather than "Ride".Munkky wrote:I remember there was a leaked product listing a while ago for "ROBO WILD RIDE"
Posted by Overcracker on July 11th, 2023 @ 5:54pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Overcracker wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Overcracker wrote:While Prowl could potentially be a Sunstreaker or Sideswipe retool, I just don't see how any other figure can be used for X-Brawn.
I think I see Clampdown weeping in the corner...
Well, Clampdown is already a retool of Sideswipe. So a retool of a retool I guess.
And a Police Car to boot.
Yup.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on July 11th, 2023 @ 6:08pm CDT
That said, the second they announce a Gen Selects Overcharge, I'm grabbing that
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2023 @ 7:36pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:That said, the second they announce a Gen Selects Overcharge, I'm grabbing that
I am truly surprised that that isn't even rumored yet.
Have some Axlegrease
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2023 @ 7:54pm CDT
Check out the notes and images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Ah yes, Legacy Evolution Voyager Bludgeon, what a fierce decepticon to add to your collection. I don’t think I’ve ever actually encountered anyone that doesn’t have some kind of love for this character.
I’m honored to have had the pleasure of trying to live up to Alex Milne’s design featured in the IDW comic series. As you may already know this is a redeco of Tarn, but he comes with a new head, new sword, and a new delicious colorway!
Huge shout out to Yuya san over at Takara, his design aesthetic is just amazing!
I had to take some time to draw up a wicked head sculpt for this maniac, slide on through the pics for some other treats and deets. He has a sick weapon load out and the sword sculpt details look pretty vicious. I’m not sure if some people noticed on Tarn but the front tank guns are not only blast effect compatible, they are perfectly sized to be used as a set of hit sticks. With this great range of articulation, you can really get wild with the posing.
Had alot of fun with this mold as you can see, somtimes figures just seem like they have a mind of their own as you play with them. Happy Transformers Tuesday yall!
Posted by sol magnus on July 11th, 2023 @ 7:57pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 11th, 2023 @ 8:16pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:The only thing I wish they did was retool the chest. The paint apps help, but I still see Tarn's chest plate. It's not a dealbreaker, just a wish.
I agree, he really only needed the new chest to truly stand apart
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 11th, 2023 @ 8:52pm CDT
Seriously.
Now, if only Super 7 would release their damn figures already!
Posted by Emerje on July 11th, 2023 @ 10:11pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Destron on July 12th, 2023 @ 5:36am CDT
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
Posted by Emerje on July 12th, 2023 @ 9:18am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
I've never seen him in stores, I'm still waiting for Entertainment Earth to ship mine which they've delayed several times already (now expected in August). He was single packed with Leo Prime so if you've seen him in stores you've missed Tarn. His artificial rarity plus high demand are what's leading to those high aftermarket prices.
Emerje
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 12th, 2023 @ 10:29am CDT
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
I've never seen him in stores, I'm still waiting for Entertainment Earth to ship mine which they've delayed several times already (now expected in August). He was single packed with Leo Prime so if you've seen him in stores you've missed Tarn. His artificial rarity plus high demand are what's leading to those high aftermarket prices.
Emerje
Got Tarn on Amazon and it's been delayed as well
Posted by Cyber Bishop on July 12th, 2023 @ 10:52am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
I found mine in Target months back.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on July 12th, 2023 @ 6:20pm CDT
Cyber Bishop wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
I found mine in Target months back.
Really? And if what Emerje said is a fact on the count per box that hits shelves I may try to hunt for a great deal unless another wave of Tarn figures is released....then quickly sell out of course.
Posted by sol magnus on July 12th, 2023 @ 7:04pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?
For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!
I got mine in store and have seen him a few times. He's not sticking around, but it's not unheard of to see him.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 12th, 2023 @ 7:35pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 12th, 2023 @ 8:12pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 12th, 2023 @ 8:20pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 12th, 2023 @ 10:05pm CDT
And that was the only time I've seen Tarn.
Originally he was one I was willing to wait to get if/when he went on a sale.
Really glad I bought him.
Even though I still think Jhiaxus is a better figure overall, Tarn is a welcomed, fresh and unexpected addition to the collection.
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2023 @ 12:07am CDT
sol magnus wrote:I got mine in store and have seen him a few times. He's not sticking around, but it's not unheard of to see him.
Same. I've seen plenty of all the voyagers at Target. Though strangely I've seen Armada Starscream and BW Inferno AFTER the first two waves of Legacy Evolution. But while Tarn and Twincast being shrtpacked sell quicker, even when Ive seen some stores with 4 Leo's or 4 Metalhawks. They are moving and not shelf warming.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 13th, 2023 @ 4:17pm CDT
Emerje wrote:For those of you playing along at home, Amazon finally swapped the images and descriptions on their exclusive listings for the two packs. Guess they got tired of all the returns. Pretty sure they reset the reviews, too.
Emerje
My Orion Pax and Senator Shockwave set should be delivered today. I hope it actually is the right set this time! I’ll let you all know either way.
Update! Yes, I got the right set this time.
Posted by Overcracker on July 14th, 2023 @ 12:16pm CDT
While it does do some things better than the original, I can't help but miss the original's size, heft and gimmicks.
The Jet mode is good, If a bit odd to get the legs in position, at least they hold up correctly.
The original had a bad tendency of not allowing the legs to clip on to the underside of the plane, so they'd just dangle below it.
Surprisingly enough I don't miss the sounds. They got annoying really fast, but I would have liked at least a couple of missiles to plug into the shoulder cannons.
The folding cannons are great improvement.
The Wing Sword never worked well in my copy, it was super floppy, so I appreciate the solid one this one has. The tiny Star Saber on the other hand is just silly. I think it goes better with Hot Shot. Which is not half bad all things considered.
Weirdly I have a stress mark on Starscrem's right foot.
Picked up Bulkhead for 15 bucks too, but have not yet opened him.
Posted by o.supreme on July 14th, 2023 @ 3:32pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 14th, 2023 @ 4:35pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Amazon has charged me for The Nemesis, so I imagine it will be shipping soon.
Mine hasn't shipped yet, but supposedly will arrive Monday.
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Primal on July 15th, 2023 @ 4:09pm CDT
Target: Core Waves 1-3, Animated Prowl, Crosscut, Leo Prime, Metalhawk, Twincast, Blitzwing, Armada Megatron (supplemented by last year's Deluxe Wave 3, Voyager Wave 3, and Galvatron)
Walmart: Crosscut, Metalhawk (supplemented by last year's Core Wave 1, Deluxe Wave 3, Jhiaxus, Galvatron, and Blitzwing)
Gamestop: Scarr, Beachcomber, Blitzwing
Local comic store: Slug, Bomb-Burst, Grimlock, Scraphook, Needlenose, Armada Hot Shot, Deluxe Wave 2, Axlegrease, Voyager Wave 2, Nemesis Leo, Prime Skyquake (supplemented by last year's Deluxe Wave 2, Crankcase, Skullgrin, Pointblank, Voyager Wave 3, and Blitzwing)
So far I've bought Metalhawk at Walmart (and Dead End because I never saw him last year), the comic store provided me with Needlenose and Shrapnel, and then I got Bomb-Burst, Scarr, Crashbar, Animated Prowl, Leo Prime, Tarn, Twincast, and Prime Skyquake all online because either they were available online before they were at brick-and-mortar, I never saw them at brick-and-mortar (Tarn), or it was cheaper to get them online than it was at the comic store. Everything else I'm planning to get this year either isn't out yet (all of Wave 4 sans Snarl, exclusives) and/or I'm intending to get on sale if possible (Nemesis).
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 15th, 2023 @ 8:26pm CDT
Full disclosure on Copy Convoy: i was not going to get him, because I do not like the Legacy Lio Convoy mold. But with the colors and some pictures a buddy took, I decided to get him anyways. He's not bad. I like lion mode, and the colors are very nice. It's just the robot mode that I do not like. So he will likely remain in beast mode.
Armada Megatron is interesting. I was excited for him, and I do like him, but I feel the whole "he's too vanilla" thing. He needed the blade in the left arm, the face plate for alt mode to slide instead of flip, and I feel like he needed some of his compartments jointed. He's just a bit too bland really. i like him, don't get me wrong, but this may be the first case where i miss the gimmicks compared to the articulation. Which, I hate that he has Legacy Laser Prime shoulders. Bah.
Armada Optimus Prime, however, obliterates everything in Legacy this year. This isn't just figure of the year; this is the figure of Legacy so far. He is incredible. The alt mode is chunky, strong, and just looks mean. Robot mode is really nice, and very posable. And the super mode is perfect. He puts Motormaster/Menasor to shame in every capacity. He's well painted, beautiful colors, and so so playable. He is amazing, plain and simple. And he is purposely compatible with the old overload toy, which adds to the fun.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 15th, 2023 @ 8:30pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 16th, 2023 @ 1:17pm CDT
First and foremost, something that is never shown in any reviews. When you open the box, you notice right away that the thing must obviously be assembled.
These tiny planes are as small as a 10 cents coin. Luckily, they peg in solidly.
Assembling everything is just a matter of minutes and is easily done. The ship is huge and magnificent.
The transformation isn't harder than the Ark. Once again, you'll have to deal with 2 panels that pop off too easily. There's even stress marks on it.
The bot mode is imposing and is decently articulated. She's pretty bad-ass looking. I know her face is supposed to be a , but that's not the face of a fembot. Especially not whit that small chin beard. I mean, come on now.
Despite the face mishaps, I fin her adorable with her sailgun and her little cheerleader flag.
She pair perfectly well with the Ark.
Overall, she's well worth it. And surprisingly, with minimum hollows. Appart for the obvious articulated hands, I wonder what a D.N.A. de sign upgrade kit would offer to improves her? A new face? A big-ass flight stand?
TlDr; get Nemesis. She's awesome.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 16th, 2023 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 16th, 2023 @ 3:05pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.
... .... Anyway....
Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 16th, 2023 @ 3:08pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.
... .... Anyway....
Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.
You'll enjoy your big Madame and her manly goat patch!
Posted by sol magnus on July 16th, 2023 @ 5:55pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 16th, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:I definitely want one, but with Haslabs and all that I'm going to wait until it goes on sale. I'm glad you guys can take the plunge, though!
Do you mean the Nemesis?
Oh, it will be on sale sooner or later. Just wait.
It's just that for me, I wanted it ASAP and my local geek store will give store credits for used Transformers. The store credit is good at around 50% of the value, PLUS TAXES. I didn't paid any cash and I got rid of some fluff while getting Nemesis early. I got so many things from that store in this way!
Posted by Emerje on July 16th, 2023 @ 6:52pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.
... .... Anyway....
Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.
Mine was supposed to ship Friday and arrive Monday, but instead it shipped Sunday afternoon and now due Tuesday. At least the price came down by $10 since my order so I saved some more that way.
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Destron on July 16th, 2023 @ 7:01pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.
First and foremost, something that is never shown in any reviews. When you open the box, you notice right away that the thing must obviously be assembled.
What...some assembly required??? Damnation!!!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 16th, 2023 @ 8:10pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:
What...some assembly required??? Damnation!!!
The ark too required some assembly. But the Nemesis have a few more parts to assemble. Plus, the guns and ships on a sprue tickled my hobbyist bone.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 17th, 2023 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by Big Grim on July 17th, 2023 @ 10:01am CDT
ScottyP wrote::checks emails: I do see that, but someone else did several hours beforehand, thus the new credit went to them. Sorry! I know it can be hard to know when it takes awhile for stuff to go up, but if you're interested in helping us be better at that we pretty much always need new volunteers for news staff. Anyway, the submission is much appreciated regardless, so thank you
Ah, it's fine. I'd had a bad night and was salty about something unrelated and it spilled out here a little. I was News Staff many years ago and (should!) know better. Unfortunately I'm still busy with too many other things in life, the reason I stepped down all those years ago. It was good fun being part of the team though.
~ Grim