Early Design Concept Sketches of Fan Built Bot Windblade
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Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 19th, 2014 @ 10:07pm CDT
Which one, the mohawk? Could just be her upper lip being a little too defined, but regardless, yeah that one just doesn't look right. That's a tough look for male bots to pull off too, unless you make it more of a head-fin or part of a helmet, which this clearly isn't since you can see too many fiddly workings in her outer cranium. The effect is just silly, because instead of making her look tough, it makes her head look too vulnerable to getting bashed in from the side.Sabrblade wrote:She has a mustache in one of these pics.
As interesting as those unused designs are, seeing them all laid out in sequence does make the geisha look the soundest choice. No complaints about the final result from me.
Posted by Lockdownhunter on October 19th, 2014 @ 11:03pm CDT
Posted by Heckfire on October 20th, 2014 @ 12:49am CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 20th, 2014 @ 1:08am CDT
Posted by Peridot on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:55am CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Posted by fenrir72 on October 20th, 2014 @ 3:42am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Posted by RhA on October 20th, 2014 @ 5:02am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on October 20th, 2014 @ 6:31am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2014 @ 7:33am CDT
Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:02am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Plus, anybody remember Season 3's The Face of the Nijika:
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:32am CDT
Posted by dragons on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:42am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Plus, anybody remember Season 3's The Face of the Nijika:
Its almost funny alien intelligent beings from another planet try to look more human than robotic pictures should clear up confusion of geisha kabuki style
Kabuki mask
Geisha mackeup
Posted by Peridot on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:43am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Don't blame that abomination on the fans. They voted for the attributes, not aesthetics.
Nobody was being blamed for Windblade's design, which you (and only you) feel the need to complain about as always. I just have a problem with so many gosh-darn people misidentifying the basic aesthetics behind it.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:45am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Why do people keep insisting that a damn alien robot could be A)a female or B) would even assimilate the look of something it has never even seen.
I know why. Because the publishers of Transformers comics assembled an all woman team to make her comic. And in doing so they have made themselves sexists, just to try to attract fem nazis to their book.
The whole concept of fembots is just ridiculous. Aliens robots have no genitals nor do they give birth. So, why would it have boobs or curves? Robots are not male or female. The idea of gender in Transformers is one of the stupidest subjects in fiction. And that is saying something, because there are some really odd ideologies in the realm of science fiction.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:47am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Don't blame that abomination on the fans. They voted for the attributes, not aesthetics.
Nobody was being blamed for Windblade's design, which you (and only you) feel the need to complain about as always. I just have a problem with so many gosh-darn people misidentifying the basic aesthetics behind it.
No, I don't think I am the only one. As a matter of fact, I think most people who like Transformers hate Windblade. Even its wiki page tries to apologize and discharge the fans from blame for its Japanese geisha look.
"Windblade is the first "officially fan-created" Transformer ever, the culmination of Hasbro's "Fan-Built Bot" initiative program. Two polls on Hasbro's official website allowed fans to determine her character and physical traits (well, most of her traits - her Japanese motifs weren't an option in the poll and seem to be the work of the design team)."
Posted by shajaki on October 20th, 2014 @ 8:49am CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 9:01am CDT
shajaki wrote:sweet! shockblast is back!
Thanks for the warm welcome(whether it be sarcastic or not )!
Seibertron is my go to on Transformers news. Mainly because I like the nice pics and I like the staff. And even though I do not see eye to eye with most of the regulars here, I do like to converse with them as well. I frequent the site quite regularly, I just don't comment most of the time.
With that said, back to the stories!
Posted by Agamemnon on October 20th, 2014 @ 9:02am CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 9:18am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Generalizations are, generally, not the best idea. It's fine to express one's own opinion. I would be careful to associate that opinion with "most people" without conducting some sort of poll or something...
Generalizations and what most people think of Windblade are two very different things. And I do not have to take a poll. I just read the comments on the site over the last few months. Most seem to hate Windblade. The only thing I don't like about it is the face. It and Drift from AOE share the same problem. But, at least Drift in AOE actually had contact with humanity, so it somewhat made sense. With Windblade, it is just stupid. And the whole fembot thing...well you already know what I think about that.
Posted by Peridot on October 20th, 2014 @ 9:33am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Why do people keep insisting that a damn alien robot could be A)a female or B) would even assimilate the look of something it has never even seen.
I know why. Because the publishers of Transformers comics assembled an all woman team to make her comic. And in doing so they have made themselves sexists, just to try to attract fem nazis to their book.
The whole concept of fembots is just ridiculous. Aliens robots have no genitals nor do they give birth. So, why would it have boobs or curves? Robots are not male or female. The idea of gender in Transformers is one of the stupidest subjects in fiction. And that is saying something, because there are some really odd ideologies in the realm of science fiction.
They have masculine builds, voices, pronouns, and (occasionally) facial hair. And fembots have been around since the second season of G1. Don't tell me they don't have genders.
And how are the people at IDW feminazis? Because they tried to write a decent female character who isn't Arcee?
Also, I'm a guy. Just so you know.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 20th, 2014 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2014 @ 10:00am CDT
I never for one moment wondered why the Transformers had sexes, why they had noses (do they breathe?), if Optimus has a mouth under that plate in the original cartoon, or even how they are living machines. They are a fun idea to sell the best kind of toys ever (2 toys for the price of one). I don't understand the need to add "logic" to certain things when the subject matter was never intended for that. Before wondering the assumptions of alien sentient robots taking on traits from human cultures, you have to wonder the assumptions of there being sentient transforming alien robots in the first place. Let's not fall into this infernal spyral and simply enjoy these great toys.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 10:44am CDT
Metro Prime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Why do people keep insisting that a damn alien robot could be A)a female or B) would even assimilate the look of something it has never even seen.
I know why. Because the publishers of Transformers comics assembled an all woman team to make her comic. And in doing so they have made themselves sexists, just to try to attract fem nazis to their book.
The whole concept of fembots is just ridiculous. Aliens robots have no genitals nor do they give birth. So, why would it have boobs or curves? Robots are not male or female. The idea of gender in Transformers is one of the stupidest subjects in fiction. And that is saying something, because there are some really odd ideologies in the realm of science fiction.
They have masculine builds, voices, pronouns, and (occasionally) facial hair. And fembots have been around since the second season of G1. Don't tell me they don't have genders.
And how are the people at IDW feminazis? Because they tried to write a decent female character who isn't Arcee?
Also, I'm a guy. Just so you know.
Yes, and I thought it was dumb then too. Giving a robot a feminine voice is fine. Giving a robot boobs and curves is stupid. They don't have genders. They do not reproduce via sexual intercourse, so why would they have a gender?
I didn't say the people at IDW are femnazis. I said that is the only type of people you would attract when you use the fact that they allowed only females to work on the Windblade story arc as a marketing tool.
Posted by Evil Eye on October 20th, 2014 @ 10:44am CDT
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
william-james88 wrote:The set of figures containing Wingblade has yet to be sighted in Canada and it's too bad because I am really looking forward to this figure. I think it looks great and I love the style and personality given to it. I am simply talking about the characteristics found on the toy (I have not read the comics) and the design which I find quite interesting. There have been several Samurai Transformers in the past (of which I have a collection http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/will88888888/20141012_204141.jpg) so it is fun to finally get a female embodiment of that traditional culture.
I never for one moment wondered why the Transformers had sexes, why they had noses (do they breathe?), if Optimus has a mouth under that plate in the original cartoon, or even how they are living machines. They are a fun idea to sell the best kind of toys ever (2 toys for the price of one). I don't understand the need to add "logic" to certain things when the subject matter was never intended for that. Before wondering the assumptions of alien sentient robots taking on traits from human cultures, you have to wonder the assumptions of there being sentient transforming alien robots in the first place. Let's not fall into this infernal spyral and simply enjoy these great toys.
The problem is Windblade has never been to earth. So, why would it take on the form of something that it has never seen? I never wondered why there were fembots. I know why. For the same reason that comic artists draw big boobs on their female characters. The artists do not get out much. Their sexual frustration is conveyed in their work.
In all seriousness, I always look at the logical side, even in fiction. Must be why I like Shockwave so much.
I actually like Arcee and I liked its design. But to call it a "fembot" is just silly. It is a transformer, no different than any other transformer.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 10:57am CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
It is not unique. AOE Drift has the same type of Japanese look.
Geisha or Kabuki? If you are into that kind of thing then I guess it is important. To me they are the same. As in I could care less. I just think having a transformer look like a human painting their face is kinda stupid. Especially when said transformer has never even seen a Kabuki/Geisha person.
Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, for Hasbro to say this thing represents the fans choices is depressing. I personally liked the name Wraith and it could have worked for a Transformer that uses invisibility, kinda like Mirage. Not some silly looking thing who brings a sword to a gun fight. I think one of the designers must have a Jaopanese Geisha girl fetish. I mean, why would you do that?
Posted by Evil Eye on October 20th, 2014 @ 11:12am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
It is not unique. AOE Drift has the same type of Japanese look.
...Who came after Windblade. In any case the point is moot as the 2 look totally different. Drift had a samurai look whilst Windblade has a kabuki performer style.
Geisha or Kabuki? If you are into that kind of thing then I guess it is important. To me they are the same. As in I could care less. I just think having a transformer look like a human painting their face is kinda stupid. Especially when said transformer has never even seen a Kabuki/Geisha person.
Kabuki and Geisha are completely different things. Kabuki is an ancient style of Japanese theatre known for energetic performance styles and dramatic costumes/makeup. Geisha are female entertainers who attend high-class events and sing songs, play music and make conversation.
And by your logic, Bumblebee can't be called that because the Transformers have never encountered bumblebees yet. For that matter, none of them should have humanoid faces- they should all just have Shockwave-style cameras.
Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, for Hasbro to say this thing represents the fans choices is depressing.
Hasbro gave out a multiple-choice survey on what the fans wanted in a new TF. Windblade incorporates all the elements the fans wanted. So yeah, it does incorporate the fan's choices.
I personally liked the name Wraith and it could have worked for a Transformer that uses invisibility, kinda like Mirage. Not some silly looking thing who brings a sword to a gun fight.
Well I guess Grimlock better retire seeing as he's best known for using a sword. I haven't read the comics, but IIRC Windblae's choice not to use a gun is actually a big part of her character.
I think one of the designers must have a Jaopanese Geisha girl fetish. I mean, why would you do that?
Because maybe they wanted to do a design that wasn't a generic robot? You don't have to have a "fetish" to incorporate something new into a design. Honestly you're bing kinda racist.
Posted by ScottyP on October 20th, 2014 @ 11:19am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't want to go over my opinion on gender and Transformers for the 80th time. So instead, I've gone the Occam's Razor route to point out that you've answered your worry, in the above quote, all on your own Don't overthink it and try to just have fun.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 11:22am CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
It is not unique. AOE Drift has the same type of Japanese look.
...Who came after Windblade. In any case the point is moot as the 2 look totally different. Drift had a samurai look whilst Windblade has a kabuki performer style.Geisha or Kabuki? If you are into that kind of thing then I guess it is important. To me they are the same. As in I could care less. I just think having a transformer look like a human painting their face is kinda stupid. Especially when said transformer has never even seen a Kabuki/Geisha person.
Kabuki and Geisha are completely different things. Kabuki is an ancient style of Japanese theatre known for energetic performance styles and dramatic costumes/makeup. Geisha are female entertainers who attend high-class events and sing songs, play music and make conversation.
And by your logic, Bumblebee can't be called that because the Transformers have never encountered bumblebees yet. For that matter, none of them should have humanoid faces- they should all just have Shockwave-style cameras.Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, for Hasbro to say this thing represents the fans choices is depressing.
Hasbro gave out a multiple-choice survey on what the fans wanted in a new TF. Windblade incorporates all the elements the fans wanted. So yeah, it does incorporate the fan's choices.I personally liked the name Wraith and it could have worked for a Transformer that uses invisibility, kinda like Mirage. Not some silly looking thing who brings a sword to a gun fight.
Well I guess Grimlock better retire seeing as he's best known for using a sword. I haven't read the comics, but IIRC Windblae's choice not to use a gun is actually a big part of her character.I think one of the designers must have a Jaopanese Geisha girl fetish. I mean, why would you do that?
Because maybe they wanted to do a design that wasn't a generic robot? You don't have to have a "fetish" to incorporate something new into a design. Honestly you're bing kinda racist.
LOL...where do start with you?
First of all, Bumblebee scanned his automobile when he came to earth. If you mean his name only, then that is silly. His name in his native language is something different. In our language it is Bumblebee. As for the look comment that is silly. I never said they should all look like Shockwave. You did.
I tell you that I could care less about the differences between Kabuki and Geisha, and then you drone on about the differences. I told you I don't care. I could find out just as simply as you did, but again, I didn't care. Its all Japanese culture stuff that I do not get into. If you do, that's cool. I just don't.
AOE Drift was designed at least a year before Windblade was thrown together back in May, so that is not true.
As far as your comment about Grimlock goes, Grimlock is a 45 ft dinosaur with razor sharp teeth and an a laser proof hide. Windblade is a fragile, rail thin robot that transforms into a plane. Now, which one do you think needs a gun and which do you think could make due with a sword, assuming it was not in dino form, stomping the life out of anything stupid enough to shoot it?
And to say I am being racist is just stupidity. But, this is the internet, so no surprise. There is always someone throwing the random race card. Congrats, today it is you!
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 11:29am CDT
ScottyP wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't want to go over my opinion on gender and Transformers for the 80th time. So instead, I've gone the Occam's Razor route to point out that you've answered your worry, in the above quote, all on your own Don't overthink it and try to just have fun.
Well, the gender thing is really simple. There are male and female transformers because without identity similar to ours, the transformers line would be doing as well as the MARS knockoffs right next to them at Walmart. When creating something to sell in the entertainment business you must get people to identify with your characters. Thus there are fembots because we have the female gender. It is simply to draw in female fans (and more importantly, their wallets) to an otherwise male dominated fanbase.
It doesn't take logic to understand the logic behind the decisions to do so. But, that does not mean I don't think it is silly.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2014 @ 12:22pm CDT
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Genders =/= sexes.
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
O.......k......
You want to explain the difference? I must have been ditching class the day they explained it in sex ed.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Genders =/= sexes.
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
O.......k......
You want to explain the difference? I must have been ditching class the day they explained it in sex ed.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:20pm CDT
As for me, I think this is one topic to just smile and accept, knowing this all started with a kids' cartoon. Trying to pick this one apart is like unmasking Vader to find a pubescent whiny kid. Best to leave this one to mystery.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:21pm CDT
I was more interested in Scandinavian and Native American culture. The only reason I see for the decision to make Windblade look like... THAT, is because it's Japanese-ish, and kids love Japanese things these days.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:28pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:I'm guessing he's getting at the notion these bots can visibly look like a girl/guy without actually having reproductive parts.
As for me, I think this is one topic to just smile and accept, knowing this all started with a kids' cartoon. Trying to pick this one apart is like unmasking Vader to find a pubescent whiny kid. Best to leave this one to mystery.
Unless it is Bay's Devastator, right?
Sure, ultimately the reason for "fembots" is what I said before. I just find it comical that a robot can be called a boy or girl. But of course our basis of comparison is what we know, and we as humans are either male or female.
Posted by Peridot on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So uh, yeah I don't know a thing about Japanese culture. So saying that I'm ignorant because of that, well it's mostly true! I'm ignorant to the majority of Japanese culture so I have no idea what a Kabuki is. The only reason I know what a Gesha is is because my sister wouldn't shut up about Memoirs of a Geisha for about two years. The only other thing I know is some of the anime that has robots in it, and Akira.
I was more interested in Scandinavian and Native American culture. The only reason I see for the decision to make Windblade look like... THAT, is because it's Japanese-ish, and kids love Japanese things these days.
At least you're honest. And a Scandinavian Transformer would be THE BEST THING EVER.
The only plausible rationale I could find behind Windblade being Japanese is the whole "fan" thing she has going on. As the TFWiki puts it:
Her name works on many levels: "Wind Blade" is a real variety of industrial fan blade; she turns into a jet with VTOL turbofans; Hasbro designers had said they envisioned her coursing more energy into her sword blade through a spinning turbine fan in the hilt; She has a tessen, or iron fan; and, of course, she was the fans' choice character.
Posted by shockblast2 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:34pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So uh, yeah I don't know a thing about Japanese culture. So saying that I'm ignorant because of that, well it's mostly true! I'm ignorant to the majority of Japanese culture so I have no idea what a Kabuki is. The only reason I know what a Gesha is is because my sister wouldn't shut up about Memoirs of a Geisha for about two years. The only other thing I know is some of the anime that has robots in it, and Akira.
I was more interested in Scandinavian and Native American culture. The only reason I see for the decision to make Windblade look like... THAT, is because it's Japanese-ish, and kids love Japanese things these days.
I would say the designer is Japanese culture bias, because this option was never voted on and seems to be the reason why people do not like it. Honestly, if it had a different face I would think the figure was pretty cool. As far as children liking it, mine don't. They think it is weird. Because to them it is. They are not Japanese. Only Japanese people would appreciate it, which is why it seems out of place in our toy market. Conversely, the Ninja Turtles have a lot of Asian references in their shows, but I have yet to find a ninja turtle figure that dresses like a geisha girl.
As far as the differences between geisha and kabuki, they seem the same to me. Even by the other guy's description. The only difference is that it appears there are only female geisha's while kabuki's can be both.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:38pm CDT
Sex is a biological attribute, while gender is a cultural attribute. The two are related but are not 100% synonymous.shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Genders =/= sexes.
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
O.......k......
You want to explain the difference? I must have been ditching class the day they explained it in sex ed.
In the case of the Transformers, in the broadest, most generalizing manner speaking (as there are specifics that may very well contradict what I'm about to say, but I wish to point out that I'm not speaking of all cases and only of the most unspecific viewpoint there is), the Transformers do not have sexes, but do have genders.
Think of it this way, Barbie and Ken dolls are not biologically female and male (being artificially made inanimate objects), and thus have no sexes. BUT, they are culturally viewed as representing the female and male sexes, and thus are considered to have genders of their own (even in all their plastic glory).
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:38pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Genders =/= sexes.
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
O.......k......
You want to explain the difference? I must have been ditching class the day they explained it in sex ed.
I get it, he means that sex referrs specifically to the reroductive organs, while Gender is how one distinguishes themselves and identifies themselves as (just like there are men out there that see themselves as being of a different gender even if they don't have the same sex organs as that gender).
It's just like there are transformers who are sleeker or broader, or have more masculine traits or less.
And as for having sword, it's to each their own. Dinobot and Depthcharge preferred sword fighting, and Batman is known for not carrying a gun into battle. The Jedi always use their Light Sabres over laser guns. Windblade, Drift and Beast Machines Cheetor preffer swords over guns, fine, to each their own.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:42pm CDT
I hate that we know so little about other cultures, history...well, and current affairs, too. I have to redouble my efforts to get a decent look around.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:45pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Okay, one is a stage actor... one is a high-class escort girl.
I hate that we know so little about other cultures, history...well, and current affairs, too. I have to redouble my efforts to get a decent look around.
Eh, don't let it bother you. There's only so much information a human being can accumulate in their lifetime.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:45pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Okay, one is a stage actor... one is a high-class escort girl.
If you want to be really technical, Kabuki actors are almost exclusively male, and so were Geisha's way, way back in the day
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:47pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So uh, yeah I don't know a thing about Japanese culture. So saying that I'm ignorant because of that, well it's mostly true! I'm ignorant to the majority of Japanese culture so I have no idea what a Kabuki is. The only reason I know what a Gesha is is because my sister wouldn't shut up about Memoirs of a Geisha for about two years. The only other thing I know is some of the anime that has robots in it, and Akira.
I was more interested in Scandinavian and Native American culture. The only reason I see for the decision to make Windblade look like... THAT, is because it's Japanese-ish, and kids love Japanese things these days.
If you like Native American culture, I know a TF that is right up your alley:
Sabreback!
Posted by Evil Eye on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:49pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So uh, yeah I don't know a thing about Japanese culture. So saying that I'm ignorant because of that, well it's mostly true! I'm ignorant to the majority of Japanese culture so I have no idea what a Kabuki is. The only reason I know what a Gesha is is because my sister wouldn't shut up about Memoirs of a Geisha for about two years. The only other thing I know is some of the anime that has robots in it, and Akira.
I was more interested in Scandinavian and Native American culture. The only reason I see for the decision to make Windblade look like... THAT, is because it's Japanese-ish, and kids love Japanese things these days.
If you like Native American culture, I know a TF that is right up your alley:
Sabreback!
He's already been on my want list for a while! XD
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:54pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:Ah, Sabreback. Owner of the oh-so-wonderful Triffid Mode.
Care to illuminate the matter?
Posted by gothsaurus on October 20th, 2014 @ 2:54pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 20th, 2014 @ 3:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:Ah, Sabreback. Owner of the oh-so-wonderful Triffid Mode.
Care to illuminate the matter?
Plant monsters from a book called The Day of the Triffids.
This is the "Triffid mode"
and THIS is a Triffid