First Details on Upcoming TF7 Movie Toyline + More Legacy / SS Listings like Leader Blitzwing

Rodimus Prime wrote:I do wonder how that Blitzwing will be jacked up, he's a voyager at leader price, so I'm sure he will have some useless extra parts like Astrotrain did. Ironically, I believe Blitzwing should have been voyager without extra parts. Considering the advancements in engineering, it could be an amazing voyager triplechanger.

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I do wonder how that Blitzwing will be jacked up, he's a voyager at leader price, so I'm sure he will have some useless extra parts like Astrotrain did. Ironically, I believe Blitzwing should have been voyager without extra parts. Considering the advancements in engineering, it could be an amazing voyager triplechanger.

Personally I'd like him to be Voyager sized at Leader price with no added extras to pad the price. Put the entire price point into the figure itself, really do it justice with all the moving parts it takes to do him right.

Emerje

Overcracker wrote:Barcelona maybe Blackarachnia,

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Forgive me if this has been discussed already, but do we know if the new Menasor will be compatible with Combiner Wars figures? It kinda irks me that Energon can't mix with Power Core can't mix with Combiner Wars...

Granted, the combiner ports on deluxes are somewhat in the way, but Hasbro got better at hiding them (Swoop and Jazz as examples).

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Barcelona maybe Blackarachnia,

Is Blackarachnia in the movie?

Overcracker wrote:George is very clearly Primal, as he's in all size classes.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:George is very clearly Primal, as he's in all size classes.

More likely Optimus Prime or Bumblebee since those two are more likely to be in all classes than Primal.

Also, the codenames truly mean nothing. They are picked so that you can't infer anything from them.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:George is very clearly Primal, as he's in all size classes.

More likely Optimus Prime or Bumblebee since those two are more likely to be in all classes than Primal.

Also, the codenames truly mean nothing. They are picked so that you can't infer anything from them.

Why wouldn't Primal be in all the size classes? It's still likely he'll be leading his own BW movie one day.

Are Predacons even in this movie? Sounds like its all Autobots and Maximals vs. Scourge and his Terrorcons. I've only heard it talked about as an ancient battle between three factions.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:George is very clearly Primal, as he's in all size classes.

More likely Optimus Prime or Bumblebee since those two are more likely to be in all classes than Primal.

Also, the codenames truly mean nothing. They are picked so that you can't infer anything from them.

Why wouldn't Primal be in all the size classes? It's still likely he'll be leading his own BW movie one day.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Since we're still reading about Voyager-sized Leaders, Deluxe-sized Voyagers, and small Deluxes, I'm starting to think we need new size terminology entirely. So-called size classes are actually price classes. Insofar as they are still size classes, it's box size rather than product size, and most people don't care about that.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Since we're still reading about Voyager-sized Leaders, Deluxe-sized Voyagers, and small Deluxes, I'm starting to think we need new size terminology entirely. So-called size classes are actually price classes. Insofar as they are still size classes, it's box size rather than product size, and most people don't care about that.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Since we're still reading about Voyager-sized Leaders, Deluxe-sized Voyagers, and small Deluxes, I'm starting to think we need new size terminology entirely. So-called size classes are actually price classes. Insofar as they are still size classes, it's box size rather than product size, and most people don't care about that.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about Blitzwing. If his bot mode is on point, I can deal with a couple issues with alt modes, as well as the price.
I'm also very anxious to see all of these Stunticons; first, just for their appearances (especially Motormaster), but also to see if they are in-fact CW compatible.

I have zero interest in any of the movie figures... Such an easy pass for me.

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about Blitzwing. If his bot mode is on point, I can deal with a couple issues with alt modes, as well as the price.
I'm also very anxious to see all of these Stunticons; first, just for their appearances (especially Motormaster), but also to see if they are in-fact CW compatible.

I have zero interest in any of the movie figures... Such an easy pass for me.

I don't think they will be CW compatible. This is a new system.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about Blitzwing. If his bot mode is on point, I can deal with a couple issues with alt modes, as well as the price.
I'm also very anxious to see all of these Stunticons; first, just for their appearances (especially Motormaster), but also to see if they are in-fact CW compatible.

I have zero interest in any of the movie figures... Such an easy pass for me.

I don't think they will be CW compatible. This is a new system.

Blocks extending from Motormaster for the vehicle-mode Stunticons to be slapped on

ZeroWolf wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about Blitzwing. If his bot mode is on point, I can deal with a couple issues with alt modes, as well as the price.
I'm also very anxious to see all of these Stunticons; first, just for their appearances (especially Motormaster), but also to see if they are in-fact CW compatible.

I have zero interest in any of the movie figures... Such an easy pass for me.

I don't think they will be CW compatible. This is a new system.

Blocks extending from Motormaster for the vehicle-mode Stunticons to be slapped on

You joke but I think Hasbro are crazy enough to do it

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about Blitzwing. If his bot mode is on point, I can deal with a couple issues with alt modes, as well as the price.
I'm also very anxious to see all of these Stunticons; first, just for their appearances (especially Motormaster), but also to see if they are in-fact CW compatible.

I have zero interest in any of the movie figures... Such an easy pass for me.

I don't think they will be CW compatible. This is a new system.

Blocks extending from Motormaster for the vehicle-mode Stunticons to be slapped on

You joke but I think Hasbro are crazy enough to do it

Who says I'm joking? Putting it out as an actual possibility

Till-all-R1 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Since we're still reading about Voyager-sized Leaders, Deluxe-sized Voyagers, and small Deluxes, I'm starting to think we need new size terminology entirely. So-called size classes are actually price classes. Insofar as they are still size classes, it's box size rather than product size, and most people don't care about that.

This. Ever since Legends Class ended there's no place for those cheaper/smaller bots so they put them in "Deluxe" Class where they don't really belong and certainly aren't worth the price in some cases. Such as with Buzzworthy Origins Bee, that's not a $23 bot. IMO

Also the fact that the oversized boxes are there simply to sell you on the item appearing to be worth the price, could you imagine if they cut those deluxe boxes by half and still charged $23? In cases like Red Alert, Wheeljack etc. it works but not on Bots like BB and CJ.IMO it's just wasted packaging materials in an era where they're seemingly trying to go green.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Since we're still reading about Voyager-sized Leaders, Deluxe-sized Voyagers, and small Deluxes, I'm starting to think we need new size terminology entirely. So-called size classes are actually price classes. Insofar as they are still size classes, it's box size rather than product size, and most people don't care about that.

This. Ever since Legends Class ended there's no place for those cheaper/smaller bots so they put them in "Deluxe" Class where they don't really belong and certainly aren't worth the price in some cases. Such as with Buzzworthy Origins Bee, that's not a $23 bot. IMO

Also the fact that the oversized boxes are there simply to sell you on the item appearing to be worth the price, could you imagine if they cut those deluxe boxes by half and still charged $23? In cases like Red Alert, Wheeljack etc. it works but not on Bots like BB and CJ.IMO it's just wasted packaging materials in an era where they're seemingly trying to go green.

The engineering in that bee would be too much for the Legends price tag, there's more parts there then say Power of the Prime Cindersaur or Titans Returns Kickback or Gnaw. As stated, we need to move past the size of the bot and look at other factors like parts count and engineering. Much like people do when they buy Masterpiece

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't really know how well he's selling either but I did see where he's going for double on ebay. lol Luckily I got him very early at the closest Target I have or I'd probably never have found him much like every other Exclusive. I had to pay $40 for Thrust.

AcademyofDrX wrote:"The people who aren't buying this figure think it's overpriced, and it sells on eBay for even more" is not a problem, I don't know why it's being presented like one.

The problem I'm trying to figure out is how we should talk about different figures when historically it's had an emphasis on class and now that's not as meaningful. Or at least, we need to represent that Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mean different things pre- and post-WfC.

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:"The people who aren't buying this figure think it's overpriced, and it sells on eBay for even more" is not a problem, I don't know why it's being presented like one.

The problem I'm trying to figure out is how we should talk about different figures when historically it's had an emphasis on class and now that's not as meaningful. Or at least, we need to represent that Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mean different things pre- and post-WfC.

I still think deluxe and Voyager ect work. We just have to know that those classes refer to price points now and not height.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:"The people who aren't buying this figure think it's overpriced, and it sells on eBay for even more" is not a problem, I don't know why it's being presented like one.

The problem I'm trying to figure out is how we should talk about different figures when historically it's had an emphasis on class and now that's not as meaningful. Or at least, we need to represent that Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mean different things pre- and post-WfC.

I still think deluxe and Voyager ect work. We just have to know that those classes refer to price points now and not height.

In a sense, they always have: we just put too much value in them as a measure for size as well over the years. True, that worked, but with the emphasis on scale in the WFC line and others it no longer does.