First Look at Warpath and Gears G1 Reissues

Cobotron wrote:Oooooooooh!*BLAM* Warpath. *POW*
Sweet! *ZOWEE*

Burn wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Oooooooooh!*BLAM* Warpath. *POW*
Sweet! *ZOWEE*

Fixed that for ya.

Amelie wrote: A lot of kids these days don't always see Optimus Prime and expect a trailer.[/color]

Ironhidensh wrote:

Amelie wrote: A lot of kids these days don't always see Optimus Prime and expect a trailer.

We have failed an entire generation.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Amelie wrote: A lot of kids these days don't always see Optimus Prime and expect a trailer.[/color]

We have failed an entire generation.

william-james88 wrote:Wow, these getting reissued next is really surprising

leokearon wrote:Good to see Warpath, though he looks a bit awkward in the packaging. Hopefully with Soundwave (and Buzzsaw) being released we will seeing the other cassettes being reissued

Emerje wrote:

leokearon wrote:Good to see Warpath, though he looks a bit awkward in the packaging. Hopefully with Soundwave (and Buzzsaw) being released we will seeing the other cassettes being reissued

Somebody said that somebody said that single cassettes are coming, maybe that's why we've only seen Warpath and Gears so far. If we only got two then who would people pick? I'm thinking Ravage and Laserbeak since I wouldn't want them to split up Frenzy and Rumble and can't see them releasing both if we only got two slots.

As far as the mini-vehicles go, the only two I really "need" are Warpath, Powerglide, and Pipes to complete my childhood collection, but of course I want all of them.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

leokearon wrote:Good to see Warpath, though he looks a bit awkward in the packaging. Hopefully with Soundwave (and Buzzsaw) being released we will seeing the other cassettes being reissued

Somebody said that somebody said that single cassettes are coming, maybe that's why we've only seen Warpath and Gears so far. If we only got two then who would people pick? I'm thinking Ravage and Laserbeak since I wouldn't want them to split up Frenzy and Rumble and can't see them releasing both if we only got two slots.

As far as the mini-vehicles go, the only two I really "need" are Warpath, Powerglide, and Pipes to complete my childhood collection, but of course I want all of them.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:

Emerje wrote:

leokearon wrote:Good to see Warpath, though he looks a bit awkward in the packaging. Hopefully with Soundwave (and Buzzsaw) being released we will seeing the other cassettes being reissued

Somebody said that somebody said that single cassettes are coming, maybe that's why we've only seen Warpath and Gears so far. If we only got two then who would people pick? I'm thinking Ravage and Laserbeak since I wouldn't want them to split up Frenzy and Rumble and can't see them releasing both if we only got two slots.

As far as the mini-vehicles go, the only two I really "need" are Warpath, Powerglide, and Pipes to complete my childhood collection, but of course I want all of them.

Emerje

Wouldn't that be three you need then?

leokearon wrote:Being the most famous it would be likely that Ravage and Laserbeak would be done first. Though I would love to see Ratbat done

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:

leokearon wrote:Being the most famous it would be likely that Ravage and Laserbeak would be done first. Though I would love to see Ratbat done

Same here. Ratbat is one of the cassettes I'm missing, and I don't want to pay the prices I've seen for an authentic one. Still hope to get a G1 Soundwave, but just have to see what the reissue looks like in person and what the price is at the time.

JasonM32 wrote:Same size box as Hotrod, no trailer, and they want $50 for it. Come on son.

Rainmaker wrote:$50 USD for that? And no trailer?

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:$50 with no trailer or roller, but with TWO guns ...

-Kanrabat- wrote:At that price, might as well double the amount and BAPE.
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Dan14thPrime wrote:50 bucks?!?! One word - rollback. No way that sells through at $50. I'll wait until it's $30.

william-james88 wrote:The 25th Anniversary was $69.99, 10 years ago. That's $85 USD today. Would people prefer paying that if they included the trailer?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The 25th Anniversary was $69.99, 10 years ago. That's $85 USD today. Would people prefer paying that if they included the trailer?

So the trailer and Roller would cost another $35, even though they make up 2/3 of the whole thing? Prime by himself should be $35, and the $50 difference should come with the trailer and Roller.

william-james88 wrote:I am not a fan of the price either but the outrage here is kinda nuts, especially when it seems people forgot how much Prime with a Trailer actually cost last time it was released in the US.

The 25th Anniversary was $69.99, 10 years ago. That's $85 USD today. Would people preffer paying that if they included the trailer?

Here is our original Seibertron new story from back in the day:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... iew/14301/

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The 25th Anniversary was $69.99, 10 years ago. That's $85 USD today. Would people prefer paying that if they included the trailer?

So the trailer and Roller would cost another $35, even though they make up 2/3 of the whole thing? Prime by himself should be $35, and the $50 difference should come with the trailer and Roller.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The 25th Anniversary was $69.99, 10 years ago. That's $85 USD today. Would people prefer paying that if they included the trailer?

So the trailer and Roller would cost another $35, even though they make up 2/3 of the whole thing? Prime by himself should be $35, and the $50 difference should come with the trailer and Roller.

Why are you ignoring the material used or density?
The trailer is a big empty box made of plastic, that being $50 would be the bigger outrage, no?

But thats not the point, the idea is that people are expecting to pay $50 for a complete Prime when that wasnt even the case in the previous reissue. I think people would bitch and moan about a complete prime being $85 just as much as they are right now, based on what I am seeing online.

cruizerdave wrote:No, nope, not gonna do it, not for $50. That's ridiculous. You can find examples as complete as that of the original for that on Ebay.

william-james88 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:No, nope, not gonna do it, not for $50. That's ridiculous. You can find examples as complete as that of the original for that on Ebay.

Doesnt that mean that this is priced at the right market value?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:No, nope, not gonna do it, not for $50. That's ridiculous. You can find examples as complete as that of the original for that on Ebay.

Doesnt that mean that this is priced at the right market value?

To some, the vintage matters too, like a fine wine. Therefore, younger vintage should be priced lower, like this reissue right here.

We so need a monocle emote on the boards.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:No, nope, not gonna do it, not for $50. That's ridiculous. You can find examples as complete as that of the original for that on Ebay.

Doesnt that mean that this is priced at the right market value?

To some, the vintage matters too, like a fine wine. Therefore, younger vintage should be priced lower, like this reissue right here.

We so need a monocle emote on the boards.

But the vintage is not mint while this new one is. Does that not cancel out the vintage aspect? I totally get the added value on it being original for a complete toy, but incomplete used G1 toys that have reissues are not that high in demand. And we have numbers backing that up. All loose G1 toy prices dropped heavily once reissues were available (best example being Fort Max).

william-james88 wrote: All loose G1 toy prices dropped heavily once reissues were available (best example being Fort Max).

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:A couple of stores I buy TFs from admit, and will label with a reduced price, that if they have an authentic G1 that they picked up in pieces they have used reissue parts to reassemble the original.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote: All loose G1 toy prices dropped heavily once reissues were available (best example being Fort Max).

I'm not really seeing any price drops in original Fort Max...the least expensive loose/complete ones from 1987 are still selling for as much or more than MISB encore ones.

o.supreme wrote:I understand the resistance to the price. In fact, I'd say it's more the incompleteness of the product & price combination.

Burn wrote:

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:A couple of stores I buy TFs from admit, and will label with a reduced price, that if they have an authentic G1 that they picked up in pieces they have used reissue parts to reassemble the original.

Do they make potential buyers aware of that?

Because if I'm going for an original, I'd want original parts.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Getting back to individual cassette releases, all I really want to see right now is Rumble and Frenzy. I've got the SDCC 2009 "25th Anniversary" G1 Soundwave giftset, which game with Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, Ravage, and Ratbat. All that's missing is "Red Tape Guy" and "Blue Tape Guy" in my collection. (Yes, I'll probably be passing on this new Soundwave reissue with Buzzsaw. It's redundant for me.) My fear, though, is that we won't get individual releases of Rumble and Frenzy, or even a two pack of them. Soundwave was packaged with Buzzsaw originally in G1, and I bet Hasbro will follow suit with the rest of the tape buddies, meaning we'll get original styled 2-packs like Rumble & Ravage and Frenzy & Laserbeak.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I understand the resistance to the price. In fact, I'd say it's more the incompleteness of the product & price combination.

Yeah, I get all this. Makes sense. When releasing the whole thing, we dont really distribute the cost among accesories in our heads, we just see a complete package. And now Hasbro has told us that the cab is priced at $50 and while its less than what a complete package would cost, its not less enough for something considered incomplete.
I feel Hasbro was trying to release a more affordable version of G1 Prime but it bit them in the behind. Especially when the market they are aiming is fans who have money to spend on this.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Getting back to individual cassette releases, all I really want to see right now is Rumble and Frenzy. I've got the SDCC 2009 "25th Anniversary" G1 Soundwave giftset, which game with Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, Ravage, and Ratbat. All that's missing is "Red Tape Guy" and "Blue Tape Guy" in my collection. (Yes, I'll probably be passing on this new Soundwave reissue with Buzzsaw. It's redundant for me.) My fear, though, is that we won't get individual releases of Rumble and Frenzy, or even a two pack of them. Soundwave was packaged with Buzzsaw originally in G1, and I bet Hasbro will follow suit with the rest of the tape buddies, meaning we'll get original styled 2-packs like Rumble & Ravage and Frenzy & Laserbeak.

leokearon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I understand the resistance to the price. In fact, I'd say it's more the incompleteness of the product & price combination.

Yeah, I get all this. Makes sense. When releasing the whole thing, we dont really distribute the cost among accesories in our heads, we just see a complete package. And now Hasbro has told us that the cab is priced at $50 and while its less than what a complete package would cost, its not less enough for something considered incomplete.
I feel Hasbro was trying to release a more affordable version of G1 Prime but it bit them in the behind. Especially when the market they are aiming is fans who have money to spend on this.

That's for me is the biggest problem. When I think Original G1 Optimus Prime toy , I think Robot, Trailer and Roller, not just the Robot. If everyone else is being released complete why not Optimus? I would hate for Hasbro to do something similar with Rodiums Prime

Burn wrote:Because if I'm going for an original, I'd want original parts.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

leokearon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I understand the resistance to the price. In fact, I'd say it's more the incompleteness of the product & price combination.

Yeah, I get all this. Makes sense. When releasing the whole thing, we dont really distribute the cost among accesories in our heads, we just see a complete package. And now Hasbro has told us that the cab is priced at $50 and while its less than what a complete package would cost, its not less enough for something considered incomplete.
I feel Hasbro was trying to release a more affordable version of G1 Prime but it bit them in the behind. Especially when the market they are aiming is fans who have money to spend on this.

That's for me is the biggest problem. When I think Original G1 Optimus Prime toy , I think Robot, Trailer and Roller, not just the Robot. If everyone else is being released complete why not Optimus? I would hate for Hasbro to do something similar with Rodiums Prime

If they did that with Rodimus Prime that would be inexcusable. I mean, he's not even a complete vehicle without the camper shell!

I don't think they would with him though, his trailer parts are likely on the same sprues as his main body.

leokearon wrote:Rodimus does have wheels on his legs, so they could class it as a complete vehicle

Unlike Optimus, however - he is barely recognizable as anything without his trailer and it would be a severe stretch to try and argue it is a "complete vehicle". Optimus has the benefit of being a complete vehicle in his own right, without the trailer. They actually sell trucks without trailers.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

firefox91 wrote:He is about the same size as Starscream which was $35, yet he is $50. Why? I think it's just because of the name. He is the ultimate Transformer.

He's also a lost art.

And don't forget, he has rubber tires too. Pretty sure Hot Rod didn't have those. That second gun might also be a factor