Gallery for SDCC 2017 Transformers Power of the Primes Reveals at Hasbro Breakfast Press Event #HasbroSDCC
Thursday, July 20th, 2017 12:17PM CDT
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The Power of the Primes gimmick features Prime Master mini-figures who embody power literally from the original 12 Primes - or 13, if you're a believer. The Skullgrin figure we saw in the Breakfast Press event sports the holofoil symbol of Liege Maximo, who recently returned in IDW's Transformers: Till All Are One, and include Decoy Suits, the new version of Pretender Shells, but in diminutive size (similar to the Titan Master vehicle drones).
Deluxes will also be able to house the Prime Masters, and Voyagers will be able to hold up to two each, with a 'special armour' of sorts that will fit on the figure, or the arms for the Voyager. The 13th Prime's spark is, as expected, the Matrix of Leadership - which each Leader class figure will have, each to their own style - giving a narrative support to Hot Rod becoming Rodimus Prime in the new fiction too and toyline too. And Optimus Primal, the winner of the fan poll, will have the same gimmick and transformation from Deluxe to Leader
Here is a list of what you will find in the gallery.
Prime Master Skullgrin where a small Prime Master can be hidden in a small transforming pretender shell (Decoy Suit).
Legends Beachcomber
Deluxe Dreadwing and Darkwind which can combine the same way they did in G1 (see image below) and Jazz
Voyager Starscream whose design is a combination of his G1 Pretender self and IDW's design by Sara Pitre Durocher
Leader Rodimus Prime with a removable Matrix of Leadership which has a Titan master port (so yes, you can now give you toys a Six of Twelve head). The trailer becomes a big suit for a deluxe Hot Rod to go inside and turn into Rodimus Prime.
Titans Return Overlord and Slugslinger were also present
Transformers G1 1988 Dreadwing (Darkwings) Gallery
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT
The Pretender thing is nice but far too small for what I was hoping the gimmick to return as... Very disappointing.
Can't stop smirking at Darkwing's head. I know it looked a bit funny before but it just looks ridiculous now. Looked better in the comics.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
Ingenous!
Posted by bodrock on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
MadProject wrote:can we also take a moment to discuss about the fact that you can use the Matrix as Titan Master?
I love it!
Posted by breacher on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT
Posted by leokearon on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Skullgrin is odd,
Jazz, I prefer the RTS version,
Beachcomber looks really good
Starscream has gone to the gym of drank monster juice
Rodimus looks great but I don't need another Deluxe Hot Rod
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Rodimus looks great but I don't need another Deluxe Hot Rod
So use him as Voyager Rodimus Prime?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by shocksound96 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
breacher wrote:Also, does it look like Beachcomber's chest does something to anyone else?
No. It looks to me like his chest is the bottom of the Titan Master cockpit. The arms look like the slide down to give better sheep clearance. His waist might have the same collapsible thing going on that Wheelie had to elongate the vehicle mode. But I ask not. Seeing an actual gimmick. Just mechanics for transformation
Posted by Flashwave on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:30pm CDT
But in the category of super obscure and unlikely, you know who I WANT? RID Daytonus.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT
shocksound96 wrote:Still have my fingers crossed for Star Saber
given rodimus primes example here, I can see star saber as a distinct possibility
Posted by Overcracker on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:You and me both. Dang itOvercracker wrote:Roddy's looking pretty cool. Now you know I have to have it for the ever growing Rod display.
LOL!
Looks like Rodimus is in fact 2 figures in one. Hot Rod, and the trailer / armor to turn him into Rodimus. which also appears to grant him a larger head. And the Hot Rod portion has to be part of the package otherwise you would just be getting a leader sized trailer.
Seems like the TR Hot rod just became a tad superfluous though.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:breacher wrote:Also, does it look like Beachcomber's chest does something to anyone else?
No. It looks to me like his chest is the bottom of the Titan Master cockpit. The arms look like the slide down to give better sheep clearance. His waist might have the same collapsible thing going on that Wheelie had to elongate the vehicle mode. But I ask not. Seeing an actual gimmick. Just mechanics for transformation
Oh dear God in heaven, please don't let Beachcomber be a floppy mess like Wheelie
Posted by galvatron00 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CDT
HYPE!!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:42pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Seems like the TR Hot rod just became a tad superfluous though.
Well, true in that's why I've decided to pretty much skip Legends Hot Rod, but I'm keeping my custom TR Hot Rod anyways cos he's my Marvel Hot Rod and anyways if you have both TR Hot Rod and PotP ROdimus you can have both displayed at same time as before/after Matrix? I dunno.
Posted by william-james88 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:The Pretender thing is nice but far too small for what I was hoping the gimmick to return as... Very disappointing.
it returned as more than that, did you see that Rodimus. Its a mega pretender like Thunderwing. You have two transforming bots that combine together in vehicle mode and then in one mode (the robot mode) the smaller robot fits into the larger robot. thats the tru return of pretenders, with characters that werent pretenders before. it will be like that for all leader size class figures including Optimus Primal
Which must mean that Optimus Primal will be a deluxe gorilla and turn into leader Optimal Optimus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carnivius_Prime wrote:leokearon wrote:Rodimus looks great but I don't need another Deluxe Hot Rod
So use him as Voyager Rodimus Prime?
He's a leader. if anyone still wants a great voyager Rodimus, just get the MP, he scales perfectly.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hope Dreadwind and Darkwing combine better than that, bad enough they're using CW molds again. I really hope something is up with Starscream because as it is, it looks terrible. Do we know if the deluxe Hot Rod comes with the armor or is it a separate figure?
The Prime masters fit into his arms to power him up. It will happen on all voyagers.
Leader Rodimus comes with the smaller deluxe hot rod, yes. And the two jets wont combine better than that.
Posted by Overcracker on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Overcracker wrote:Seems like the TR Hot rod just became a tad superfluous though.
Well, true in that's why I've decided to pretty much skip Legends Hot Rod, but I'm keeping my custom TR Hot Rod anyways cos he's my Marvel Hot Rod and anyways if you have both TR Hot Rod and PotP ROdimus you can have both displayed at same time as before/after Matrix? I dunno.
I like that idea.
william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:The Pretender thing is nice but far too small for what I was hoping the gimmick to return as... Very disappointing.
it returned as more than that, did you see that Rodimus. Its a mega pretender like Thunderwing. You have two transforming bots that combine together in vehicle mode and then in one mode (the robot mode) the smaller robot fits into the larger robot. thats the tru return of pretenders, with characters that werent pretenders before. it will be like that for all leader size class figures including Optimus Primal
Which must mean that Optimus Primal will be a deluxe gorilla and turn into leader Optimal Optimus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ohh, my!!!!.
Posted by galvatron00 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CDT
Or make dioramas like The Return of Optimus Prime and the first couple episodes of Headmasters where he goes from Hot Rot to Rodimus to Hot Rod to Rodimus to "I'm leaving the Autobots for you to command, Fortress!"Overcracker wrote:I like that idea.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Well, true in that's why I've decided to pretty much skip Legends Hot Rod, but I'm keeping my custom TR Hot Rod anyways cos he's my Marvel Hot Rod and anyways if you have both TR Hot Rod and PotP ROdimus you can have both displayed at same time as before/after Matrix? I dunno.Overcracker wrote:Seems like the TR Hot rod just became a tad superfluous though.
Posted by Ravage XK on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:52pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Big Grim wrote:Man, for a second there I was sooooooo excited for Dreadwind and Darkwing. Two of my favorite toys as a kid. Hard to get now for a decent price. New ones would work! But....they're kinda crap.
Its for all the people who wanted CW molds redone as every single character.
Hey that's me!
Posted by galvatron00 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Which must mean that Optimus Primal will be a deluxe gorilla and turn into leader Optimal Optimus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:He's a leader. if anyone still wants a great voyager Rodimus, just get the MP, he scales perfectly.
Oh frick. That Rodimus is a Leader? Godammit Hasbro... I may as well take it off my damn list now. I so thought he was a voyager and was so ready to throw money at Hasbro for it.
And no the MP does NOT fit in well with regular line voyagers. He's far too simple and smooth like I mentioned earlier. And he's a bit too large to stand with Springer who should be bigger.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
Rodimus looks impressive. Too big for my main collection, but nice. I'll put it in my Hot Rod display, which now doesn't have room for all my Hot Rods. I guess I don't need to track down that box set exclusive Rodimus head!
Posted by mordhelm on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:58pm CDT
Also, people keep mentioning Jazz has combiner ports, but I don't see it at all. The neck piece I think people are referencing doesn't necessarily show that. Can someone give definitive proof that he has a combiner port?
Posted by Big Grim on July 20th, 2017 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by bodrock on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:william-james88 wrote:Which must mean that Optimus Primal will be a deluxe gorilla and turn into leader Optimal Optimus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO WANT
Posted by Nexus Knight on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by Stormtalon on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:13pm CDT
Starscream too. Though I prefer the legends/cyberverse sized one. This one doesn't look bad, just like the little guy I already have.
I hope Jazz can combine with the CW line. With him and Sideswipe that will be all my G1 Autobots bucket list.
Does this mean we will get a full accounting of all the Primes. We know a lot about Solus or Onyx Prime, but Liege Maximo or Nexus Prime, little to nothing.
Posted by Nexus Knight on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT
Stormtalon wrote:Does this mean we will get a full accounting of all the Primes. We know a lot about Solus or Onyx Prime, but Liege Maximo or Nexus Prime, little to nothing.
Well Nexus will probably be a special condition as he's a combiner and thus will probably be a gift set. Unless they decide to release a Voyager class that combines with Combiner Wars deluxes.
And if you're referring to the G1 versions, yeah, we don't know much about them. The Aligned continuity, however, has a lot of info on them.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT
Jazz has a combiner port. He could be a pre-tool, pre-paint, whatever of one of guys that forms Road Caesar.
That would be freakin' sweet!
Posted by bluecatcinema on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by Palo_zfogs on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:27pm CDT
Rodimus Prime looks pretty cool too but I find the parts that connects that shoulders looks similar Energon Rodimus "Shirt Mode" which is the one thing that I really don't like about.
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Posted by Evil Eye on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by mordhelm on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:30pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Just a thought.
Jazz has a combiner port. He could be a pre-tool, pre-paint, whatever of one of guys that forms Road Caesar.
That would be freakin' sweet!
I am still lost, can you show me where said combiner port is? I don't see it.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:32pm CDT
mordhelm wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Just a thought.
Jazz has a combiner port. He could be a pre-tool, pre-paint, whatever of one of guys that forms Road Caesar.
That would be freakin' sweet!
I am still lost, can you show me where said combiner port is? I don't see it.
Here:
Posted by Microraptor on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:36pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Here:
Yeah that's a port no maybes or coincidences that is unmistakably a combiner port.
Posted by galvatron00 on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:41pm CDT
So now the question is, leg or arm?! He is the "right hand man" after allDeadput wrote:Yeah that's a port no maybes or coincidences that is unmistakably a combiner port.RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Here:
Posted by Deadput on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:42pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:So now the question is, leg or arm?! He is the "right hand man" after all
Posted by galvatron00 on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:43pm CDT
Deadput wrote:itscramtastic wrote:So now the question is, leg or arm?! He is the "right hand man" after all
Posted by william-james88 on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:47pm CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:oh crap, thats right, roddy is a leader class, which means he cant go head to head with my voyager galvatron! dangit hasbro!
there is alreayd a perfect option for that
Nexus Knight wrote:Oooooooookay, so this may be my mind scrambled from this hellish heat around these parts, but what exactly is the gimmick for this line I need to be excited for?
Tiny titan masters that can plug into the chest of deluxes, arms of voyagers and matrices of leaders to give them power. They are the new power masters to show the power of the 12 primes.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:i feel really stupid for having thought that rodimus was the voyager i'd been so wanting for ages. Just gone from such an excited high to a crushing low. meh...
Or you could be like me and live the dream everyday
And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.
Posted by Flashwave on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Just a thought.
Jazz has a combiner port. He could be a pre-tool, pre-paint, whatever of one of guys that forms Road Caesar.
That would be freakin' sweet!
My rely on the last page theorizes he's meant to be the CW Sideswipe we never got.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Or you could be like me and live the dream everyday
No, I already stated I don't find MP Hot Rod to go at all well with 30th Springer because the styles don't mesh at all. Springer's got a lot more detail and edges and MP Hot Rod is too slick, plain (cartoon accurate) and slightly too large and that Arcee is far too tiny for either one of them.
See I own KO MP Hot Rod, real 30th Springer and upscaled KO Arcee. Springer and Hot Rod together don't work for me. Arcee is oddly somewhere in between in terms of detail and cartoon accuracy so she's in the middle like a buffer of styles.
I also own Titans Return Galvatron and he reeeeally doesn't work with MP Hot Rod in the slightest even in your excellent photographs. Besides, Hot Rod shouldn't be the size of Galvatron. He's meant to be smaller. And Rodimus Prime would be Galvatron's size only now HE'S TOO FRICKIN' BIG!!! argh...
Posted by Tyrannacon on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Immortal Starscream wrote:oh crap, thats right, roddy is a leader class, which means he cant go head to head with my voyager galvatron! dangit hasbro!
there is alreayd a perfect option for thatNexus Knight wrote:Oooooooookay, so this may be my mind scrambled from this hellish heat around these parts, but what exactly is the gimmick for this line I need to be excited for?
Tiny titan masters that can plug into the chest of deluxes, arms of voyagers and matrices of leaders to give them power. They are the new power masters to show the power of the 12 primes.Carnivius_Prime wrote:i feel really stupid for having thought that rodimus was the voyager i'd been so wanting for ages. Just gone from such an excited high to a crushing low. meh...
Or you could be like me and live the dream everyday
And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.
Sorry, but there's something about the Masterpieces that don't work for me I tried Grimlock, and I almost tried MP10. The Size is right, but the detailing? Finish? Plastic quality? Something is different enough I can tell the difference. It doesnt work for me (and a lot of others, it seems)
Posted by o.supreme on July 20th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:My rely on the last page theorizes he's meant to be the CW Sideswipe we never got.
Jazz and Sideswipe were the only 1984 basic Autobots not released in either CW or UW. Well we have Jazz now, and hopefully a Sideswipe at some point to complete the series.
Also if some (or hopefully all ) the deluxes have CW functionality, I wonder if they will come with HFG's. I only ask because I know being combiners is not their primary function, or at least if Hasbro would offer HFG's (or Computorn styled hands and feet) for purchase separately on their website...