Hasbro PulseCon 2020 Reveals with Voyager Optimus Primal, RED Cheetor, Prime Anniversary and More!

Loving primal, loving dino megs.

Cheetor is o.k.

Cylonus is terribly mis transformed in Jet mode for some reason. Hands sticking out the back when they clearly fold into his forearms, and apparently the biceps should collapse into the shoulder to bring the jet mode together.

Definitely must get Paleotrex if only to complete Primal’s weapons.

Nothing on SS 86?

That is not a velociraptor.

Slight correction. Vertebreak turns into a fossilized dracorex, not a velociraptor. Im really loving all of these Kingdom reveals, even though I am probably only getting the predacons. I do wonder, though, if that flap is supposed to sit on Primals crotch like that. it just looks, out of place...

Okay so maybe I missed something along this Kingdom Leak and reveal journey, but why are they giving a CORE class spot to Optimus Prime? Up until now, they've religiously followed a scale chart to making each character as true-to-scale as realistically feasible (although some nit-pickers will argue this with figures like astrotrain, etc), but now they're just randomly giving us a mini Optimus. I feel like there's got to be some sort of reasoning within the beast wars universe that would explain this, but I wouldn't know because, truth be told, I know Jack Squat about Beast Wars.

I'm excited for all the rioting Beast Wars fans who have been waiting for this line, but with a little self control I'll be passing on most of these since almost none of these aesthetics appeal to me. However I can't help but think the idea of having a shelf space dedicated to organic animalistic transformers is fun. But at the end of the day, I'm just really holding out hopes for the new Studio Series 86 Line reveals, they look pretty fantastic so far.

Also, the packaging for this Kingdom line is a nice refresh from Siege and Earthrise. Didn't expect them to make such a jump is design change. Looks fantastic though. Pretty sneaky how Hasbro is slowly minimizing the plastic window on the packaging to transition to no-plastic packaging in a couple years.

jtanimator wrote:Okay so maybe I missed something along this Kingdom Leak and reveal journey, but why are they giving a CORE class spot to Optimus Prime? Up until now, they've religiously followed a scale chart to making each character as true-to-scale as realistically feasible (although some nit-pickers will argue this with figures like astrotrain, etc), but now they're just randomly giving us a mini Optimus. I feel like there's got to be some sort of reasoning within the beast wars universe that would explain this, but I wouldn't know because, truth be told, I know Jack Squat about Beast Wars.

I'm excited for all the rioting Beast Wars fans who have been waiting for this line, but with a little self control I'll be passing on most of these since almost none of these aesthetics appeal to me. However I can't help but think the idea of having a shelf space dedicated to organic animalistic transformers is fun. But at the end of the day, I'm just really holding out hopes for the new Studio Series 86 Line reveals, they look pretty fantastic so far.

Also, the packaging for this Kingdom line is a nice refresh from Siege and Earthrise. Didn't expect them to make such a jump is design change. Looks fantastic though. Pretty sneaky how Hasbro is slowly minimizing the plastic window on the packaging to transition to no-plastic packaging in a couple years.

A core prime may have something to do with the Titan Class for next year, a certain Transforming Ark

I wonder why they chose Hades Megatron.

RED Arcee and Cheetor look cool.

Kingdom is looking great.

jtanimator wrote:Okay so maybe I missed something along this Kingdom Leak and reveal journey, but why are they giving a CORE class spot to Optimus Prime? Up until now, they've religiously followed a scale chart to making each character as true-to-scale as realistically feasible (although some nit-pickers will argue this with figures like astrotrain, etc), but now they're just randomly giving us a mini Optimus. I feel like there's got to be some sort of reasoning within the beast wars universe that would explain this, but I wouldn't know because, truth be told, I know Jack Squat about Beast Wars.

It could be a reference to the story in the Transformers Legends compilation novel from the early 2000's where in the last story a bunch of Optimuses? Optimi? Optimus? 4-ish OPs get together at Maccadam's to throw back some energon and destress about the conflict, and in this story the sizes for the G1 OP, Beast Wars OP, Beast Machines OP and the other version that I can't remember right now are based on the toys at the time with the original Beast Wars Optimus Primal being huge compared to G1 OP.

While he looks good overall, I continue to be unimpressed with Optimus Primal as a Voyager class figure. I don't care if it's more in-scale with Megatron. He should be a leader. I'll stick with my original 90s Primal, thanks.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:While he looks good overall, I continue to be unimpressed with Optimus Primal as a Voyager class figure. I don't care if it's more in-scale with Megatron. He should be a leader. I'll stick with my original 90s Primal, thanks.

I'm unimpressed by that gorilla mode.

Dr. Caelus wrote:That is not a velociraptor.

I agree: he's similar to the Stygimoloch, or a juvenile Pachycephalosaurus. Not like it matters really, only the Jurassic Park toy lines seem to care (even if they got some genera wrong).

There isn’t a single thing here that isn’t completely awesome! I’m happy that we can finally get some modern/screen accurate Beast Wars that isn’t aren’t insanely high MP prices.

My only thing is Optimus Prime? Wondering why he’s a core class figure? I fully expected yet another retool of his Siege body but not this, especially since everyone else (the Bots and Cons), are in scale?

My theory is that (fiction wise), something bad happened to OP so he had to transfer himself to a smaller Maximal form? That would be sorta inline with how things happened in the show, albeit some weird reversal.

I think the core Optimus is more to do with the Titan Class Ark Transformer

I'll be refreshing the Galactic Odyssey hub on Amazon in another half hour or so. I don't have the Autobot clones so I'd like to get ahold of the Biosfera pack.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the core Optimus is more to do with the Titan Class Ark Transformer

So do you think we'll be getting a core class Megatron to match?

And yeah I don't care for that gorilla mode either on Primal. Robot mode looks great though. Will that Hades Megatron be deluxe or voyager?

BW Megatron is tempting, but at $53, may still be a pass...
Cyclonus looks so good overall, can’t wait to get him!!!
And surprisingly, I like the look of the Autobot Clone 2pack.
I’m hoping BW fans are happy. Most of those figs look good.
Personally, I’m looking forward to more SS86 figures.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the core Optimus is more to do with the Titan Class Ark Transformer

So do you think we'll be getting a core class Megatron to match?

And yeah I don't care for that gorilla mode either on Primal. Robot mode looks great though. Will that Hades Megatron be deluxe or voyager?

We were supposed to be getting a core Megatron

In addition to official product images and other reveals from Hasbro PulseCon 2020, we took the liberty of making screen captures of the video panels to share with all of you in case you missed watching the actual video earlier today. The panel offers different official product looks of the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom products (as well as others) in addition to the products in-hand. During the Entertainment panel, the first War for Cybertron Earthrise trailer was shown which showed Bug-bite, Doubledealer, and the Conehead Seekers amongst others. Check out the highlights from the panel below and click on any of the images to view the full galleries. Admittedly, there's an excessive amount of images but there's a lot to see, especially with the in-hand shots. Enjoy!

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m hoping BW fans are happy. Most of those figs look good.

Most do, but not all. That Primal's gorilla mode has some major issues.

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m hoping BW fans are happy. Most of those figs look good.

Most do, but not all. That Primal's gorilla mode has some major issues.

I can't tell if Primal is wearing a gorilla fur kilt or his great ape butt is spun around to the wrong side a la Transmetal Megatron.

. . .

Also, has it been reported for the preorders on Hasbro's web page being up and active yet or have I scored another news credit. I just finished ordering the Prime Breakdown Jet Steve box.

I'm still anxiously waiting to see voyager Tigatron and Dinobot

Thoughts on the day/event:

Kingdom reveals were awesome. Beasts all rule, G1 guys interest me none.

Titan ark looks pretty neat in that artwork, I like what we're seeing so far!

The fact that Polar claw isn't happening despite being in that artwork is so sad, i got really hyped for him when I saw the art!

Clones re-release. Good for those that missed, but another I can pass on. Wonder why they had to skip planet #2.

Prime stuff was really neat. I pre-ordered both sets, those are steal prices! I already have breakdown, but it's worth getting a 2nd and getting the air vehicon to go with my car one. I really want a final battle Megatron, but if I could get a dark star saber with a 5mm handle, I would give it to this one and probably be happy honestly.

RED stuff is much cooler this time around. Cheetor is entirely redundant, his Kingdom release looks better and can transform. Arcee will be my first RED, that is how you do it right there!

Glad Knockout got into the hall of fame, he is so worth it, he deserves the love he gets.

Lynx is a great toy, I voted for him. He deserved it.

SS was a let down with no reveals, but those will come.

With all the orders and stuff, my Pulsecon haul includes: Pit of Judgement, Breakdown/Vehicon, Hades Megatron, Marvel Legends Silk, Black Series Armorer, and a set of 3 stands. i think this was a productive weekend.

Preorders for all that was revealed at PulseCon 2020 are up at your favourite online retailers for the mainline toys. The exclusives are also up but of course it's from specific retailers so we wanted to let you know and share those links just in case.

Both the Prime 10th Anniversary packs are available here: https://hasbropulse.com/collections/has ... exclusives

RED Prime Arcee can be preordered here: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Only-At-Walm ... /654239852?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff

RED Cheetor can be preordered here: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Only-At-Walm ... /674026372?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff

Got Breakdown and Vehicon preordered. Don't carw about Megatron Darkness, er, "Hades Megatron".

Of all the Takara-only Prime Megatrons to choose from, they had to go and pick the ugliest, most gaudy one of them all.

Final Battle Megatron would have been more ideal.

Sabrblade wrote:Final Battle Megatron would have been more ideal.

Agreed. that's the one I most want

So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

Rodimus Knight wrote:So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

Nope, that's "Silas Breakdown", this is normal Breakdown.

Rodimus Knight wrote:So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

That is a good question, but we might not know until somebody has this release to check the chest.

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

That is a good question, but we might not know until somebody has this release to check the chest.

We do know. This is a straight rerelease of the original AM Brakdown toy so there won't be a Silas. Also, I gave you a news credit on this news since you asked in the other thread

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Final Battle Megatron would have been more ideal.

Agreed. that's the one I most want

This would have been an AMAZING opportunity to give us something we never got: an actual accurate Megatron figure. Somethng we never got. This AM 31 is really not good (the pics make his face seem bearable, but it isn't people buying it not knowing more about this toy will be dissapointed, it does not fit well within a collection). I only own it because I got it for that price at the time and that was a deal too good to pass up (at the time). The Hasbro version was a totally wrong pale deco and while the Final Battle one has the best deco for the voyager size, it does have that differently coloured arm which only fits with a specific part of the show.

william-james88 wrote:We do know. This is a straight rerelease of the original AM Brakdown toy so there won't be a Silas. Also, I gave you a news credit on this news since you asked in the other thread

Thank you!
My internet has been acting very weird on posting and commenting the last few days, sometimes things don't go through.

This redeco make no sense.

In general,i find his epaulettes too high,the sharkticon version don't help.

Sabrblade wrote:Got Breakdown and Vehicon preordered. Don't carw about Megatron Darkness, er, "Hades Megatron".

Of all the Takara-only Prime Megatrons to choose from, they had to go and pick the ugliest, most gaudy one of them all.

Final Battle Megatron would have been more ideal.

Surprised to see you post this, Sabrblade. Personally, I'm very excited about Hades Megatron, even though I have the Arms Micron version. It's been long enough that an excusse to buy that amazing toy again is AOK with me. It's one of the best TFP Megatron toys ever ... and much better than the final battle version that has the replaced right arm (if I'm remembering correctly).

I'm also aware of the fragility of the bat Micron, so hoping Hasbro gets the translucent plastic right with their version so that it's not so fragile. Hasbro Transformers products seem to have a better track record with translucent plastic than Takara Tomy's do.

When they revealed the Autobot Clones for Part 3 of the Space Odyssey subline, I thought they said it was an "all new" deco, as opposed to the Takara Legends release (and ostensibly the original Hasbro release in Titans Return). However, these decoes seem to be exactly the same as the first Hasbro releases. Am I wrong?

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m hoping BW fans are happy. Most of those figs look good.

Most do, but not all. That Primal's gorilla mode has some major issues.

Been saying for ages it's going to take a lot to top the originals.

I don't see that happening this time.

Polarclaw!
Airrazor!
Waspinator!
Tracks!
Huffer!
Rhinox!
BIG A$$ ARK!!!!

Did you see that Optimus Primal?
So sweet!!!

But who us that turquoise and Aqua guy in the left-hand corner?
Joyride?

I'm so frikkin excited!
(I think I leaked a little transmission fluid)

Polar claw isn't happening apparently.
Oh the guy in the corner appears to be Gears, however he's also rumoured to have been cut.

For me the most important reveal is that Peter Cullen has on his wall a picture of himself pulling his shirt open to reveal the chest of Optimus Prime, done in the style of a Clark Kent to Superman costume change. I've been seeing that image on the internet for years, always wondering what he thought of it. Now we know, and knowing is half the battle - or so I'm told.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Got Breakdown and Vehicon preordered. Don't care about Megatron Darkness, er, "Hades Megatron".

Of all the Takara-only Prime Megatrons to choose from, they had to go and pick the ugliest, most gaudy one of them all.

Final Battle Megatron would have been more ideal.

Surprised to see you post this, Sabrblade. Personally, I'm very excited about Hades Megatron, even though I have the Arms Micron version. It's been long enough that an excusse to buy that amazing toy again is AOK with me. It's one of the best TFP Megatron toys ever ... and much better than the final battle version that has the replaced right arm (if I'm remembering correctly).

The First Edition Deluxe was the better mold. Just needed to be sized up a la Energon Megatron/Galvatron vs. Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.

But instead, Hasbro made an all new mold as a Voyager and gave it a very not-silver pale deco, while Takara then made it even tackier by giving it a dark gray that Prime Megatron does not have at all and covering its body and face with mirrors.

Final Battle Megatron had the best deco of any Prime Megatron toy, minus the pink-painted arm but which was the point of that figure representing Megatron wearing the dead Prime arm he wore in the latter half of Season 2.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

Nope, that's "Silas Breakdown", this is normal Breakdown.

We;;, that makes me less likely to order it then, honestly. I want the flying vehicon, but that's about it in the set now.

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:So is this the version of Breakdown that has Silas's head inside of it?

Nope, that's "Silas Breakdown", this is normal Breakdown.

We;;, that makes me less likely to order it then, honestly. I want the flying vehicon, but that's about it in the set now.

You could try Mandarake, I saw a "Silas Breakdown" on there right before the anniversary pack was announced for ~$83 USD + shipping. The English on their site is pretty decent, there is color pictures for each item, and a rudimentary knowledge in katakana can get you very far on the order process.

Sabrblade wrote:Final Battle Megatron had the best deco of any Prime Megatron toy, minus the pink-painted arm but which was the point of that figure representing Megatron wearing the dead Prime arm he wore in the latter half of Season 2.

this is the reason I want that one so badly. I feel that represents Prime Megatron at his most evil in the show: revived by dark energon, the arm of a dead prime robbed from it's grave attached in place of his own so he could access the power of the Primes, wielding a dark form of the star saber forged from dark energon.

You cannot get more hardcore than Megatron was at this point. This is a reason Prime Megatron is one of the best Megatron's ever created.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:You cannot get more hardcore than Megatron was at this point.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:You cannot get more hardcore than Megatron was at this point.

Pretty sure he was referring to interpretations of G1 Megatron, which I agree.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:You cannot get more hardcore than Megatron was at this point.

Pretty sure he was referring to interpretations of G1 Megatron, which I agree.

No, I was referring to any Megatron. I do not count Prime as G1 in the slightest.

And while Beast Megs killing history is definitely high up there, I think the instance of Prime Megatron in Season 2 was more hardcore.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:And while Beast Megs killing history is definitely high up there, I think the instance of Prime Megatron in Season 2 was more hardcore.

Another, far less known, instance of BW Megatron's hardcore-ness: Blackmailing a demigod by directly threatening his existence.



And later, the two come face-to-face and share this little exchange:

Shokaract: "I'd rather not kill you, Megatron. There are benefits to your continued existence I shall reap in the years to come. You know how it is."

Megatron:"Ah, but I don't. And the knowledge you posses of my future is the very price I demand for not scattering your future across the aeons"

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:You cannot get more hardcore than Megatron was at this point.

I still remember being shocked when I first saw that. Like, he was going to assassinate Optimus Prime! I thought that was gonna change Transformers forever. (And Beast Wars did.)

I wonder if the Titan after the Ark will be the Nemesis. Is it inevitable now?

I think a Nemesis titan would only work if it fit into whatever toyline came in 2022

Put my orders in for the war breakdown pack and royal cobra commander. Looks like UK isnt getting Drizzt, sparkly pink ranger or the foil retro marvels and looking at prices of £90 on the quint pit.

At least the exclusives varied in price so it's not as bad as paying hundreds for a Bot con box set and only star wars fans are taking a huge dent to their wallets exclusive wise. The prime war breakdown set was really decently priced, cheaper and more value for money than a netflix voyager with battlemasters.

looking forward to that ARK !



if they've got ANY sense its third form has to be a playset/base mode to pose other figs on with a prominent teletran one screen

but its a real out of the blue figure. i woulda sworn a titan class overlord woulda been next as he's pretty much the only city former left from the original G1 period (euro/jap exclusive or not) .so its nice to get a brand new character.

the head looks very "last autobot"-ty too.

and hey ya just KNOW theres an animated omega supreme homage coming down the road too as i cant see em just wasting the opertunity to maximise the mold.

The Ark is a great choice. And the Nemesis is the next logical one, although Black Zarak is more likely in my book, assuming they elect not to go the exclusive route for him.