Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000
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We love you 3,000.
Today, August 24, 2019, we are officially 3,000 backers into the Haslab Unicron project. Which is a good sign considering the large price point! But sadly, that means that we are only 37.5% of the way to Unicron, and we only have 7 days left of the fundraising period. So while 3,000 is a good number, we are still a long ways away from the goal.
Now mind you, we will tell you that the 3,000 number is solely Hasbro Pulse pre-orders, so we are definitely a lot closer once we take into account all other sources from international markets and other sellers such as BigBadToyStore and TFSource. But we are also not safe either.
So with 1 week left, this is the time. If you have been on the fence about this project, now is the time to make the decision and jump in. If Unicron is to happen, we need to rally and show our support for the project. If we don't, Unicron goes away and 18 months of hard work is erased, and we lose the opportunity to own this one of a kind figure.
So this is the time! Help us make Unicron happen! Visit HasbroPulse.com in order to order your very own Unicron.
Today, August 24, 2019, we are officially 3,000 backers into the Haslab Unicron project. Which is a good sign considering the large price point! But sadly, that means that we are only 37.5% of the way to Unicron, and we only have 7 days left of the fundraising period. So while 3,000 is a good number, we are still a long ways away from the goal.
Now mind you, we will tell you that the 3,000 number is solely Hasbro Pulse pre-orders, so we are definitely a lot closer once we take into account all other sources from international markets and other sellers such as BigBadToyStore and TFSource. But we are also not safe either.
So with 1 week left, this is the time. If you have been on the fence about this project, now is the time to make the decision and jump in. If Unicron is to happen, we need to rally and show our support for the project. If we don't, Unicron goes away and 18 months of hard work is erased, and we lose the opportunity to own this one of a kind figure.
So this is the time! Help us make Unicron happen! Visit HasbroPulse.com in order to order your very own Unicron.
Credit(s): Hasbro Pulse
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Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035666)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:06pm CDT
I want to help, I really do but $575 US is way too much.
If Hasbro want to ensure it has enough backers they need to make Unicron a bit smaller (just under Fortress Maximus' height) to reduce the amount of materials used and declare it the titan class for WFC series 3 which will be the series of 2021, the year Unicron is supposed to be released. Making it available everywhere would help too.
If Hasbro want to ensure it has enough backers they need to make Unicron a bit smaller (just under Fortress Maximus' height) to reduce the amount of materials used and declare it the titan class for WFC series 3 which will be the series of 2021, the year Unicron is supposed to be released. Making it available everywhere would help too.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035667)
Posted by gothsaurus on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:19pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:19pm CDT
I think just extending the deadline or giving another try later in the year when people are not short on funds would do it. I wouldn’t want to see this thing shrunk any
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035668)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:34pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:34pm CDT
....I can’t. I want to, but I can’t. Too much money in such short notice. I still have to preorder Omega Supreme, and Lord knows I need to start saving.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035671)
Posted by Emerje on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:55pm CDT
It really doesn't. It is complex with lots of moving parts, but isn't "fiddly" like, say, MP-36 Megatron with lots of tiny parts. I think a lot of people are intimidated by transforming something that big on a stand, but it's a different type of challenge.
This was my belief as well. The only ones they can really get an idea from is the ones directly affiliated with them and that's still with a week remaining. If we can hope that Pulse will get a burst in its final days then those other sources should as well. Then factor in the third party orders which may or may not already be included depending on when they're placing their orders (if they can only place them in fives then there's no good reason to wait and do them all at the end). We're finally over the half way point, hopefully that'll finally motivate some people to get in.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:55pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that the transformation doesn't look too bad?
It really doesn't. It is complex with lots of moving parts, but isn't "fiddly" like, say, MP-36 Megatron with lots of tiny parts. I think a lot of people are intimidated by transforming something that big on a stand, but it's a different type of challenge.
Jeddostotle7 wrote:unicron1200 wrote:Apparently we’ve only gotten 1500 international buyers according to the Transformers Facebook page. It was attached to the post focusing on their Q&A
There are some people making note that they're specifically talking about "Hasbro-affiliated" retailers, postulating that there are even more orders from retailers that aren't directly partnering with Hasbro the way TakaraTomy Mall in Japan and EB Games and Zing in Australia are.
This was my belief as well. The only ones they can really get an idea from is the ones directly affiliated with them and that's still with a week remaining. If we can hope that Pulse will get a burst in its final days then those other sources should as well. Then factor in the third party orders which may or may not already be included depending on when they're placing their orders (if they can only place them in fives then there's no good reason to wait and do them all at the end). We're finally over the half way point, hopefully that'll finally motivate some people to get in.
Emerje
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035674)
Posted by NeonPrime on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by NeonPrime on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:11pm CDT
Wow...I would LOVE to help on this but it's just way too expensive 
If only Hasbro could scale it down to Titan scale.
If only Hasbro could scale it down to Titan scale.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035675)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:21pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:21pm CDT
The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035676)
Posted by Burn on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:40pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:40pm CDT
Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035677)
Posted by megatronus on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:56pm CDT
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
Posted by megatronus on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035678)
Posted by megatronus on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
Burn wrote:Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035679)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:02am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:02am CDT
It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035680)
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:08am CDT
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035682)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:18am CDT
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:18am CDT
Again, would if I could, but it's beyond me. I'm a highschooler only barely managing to budget in my collection. I won't be able to get together the money in time, and with my current situation saving up for over a year isn't a good alternative either.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035683)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:30am CDT
Meaning that if you cancel the order yourself, you won't get the deposit back.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:30am CDT
megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
Meaning that if you cancel the order yourself, you won't get the deposit back.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035685)
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:43am CDT
Thank you!!
They already made a smaller Unicron if you want one. Making Unicron a Titan would be a sleight against Titans.
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:43am CDT
Burn wrote:Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
Thank you!!
They already made a smaller Unicron if you want one. Making Unicron a Titan would be a sleight against Titans.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035688)
Posted by Randomhero on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:56am CDT
Pfft! I’d settle for Leader class. I don’t need something that big to appreciate it.
It’s too big and too expensive. I commend anyone contributing but I can’t justify it. You can’t play with something that big. Dust collector
Posted by Randomhero on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:56am CDT
Burn wrote:Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
Pfft! I’d settle for Leader class. I don’t need something that big to appreciate it.
It’s too big and too expensive. I commend anyone contributing but I can’t justify it. You can’t play with something that big. Dust collector
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035689)
Posted by transformers_va on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:58am CDT
Posted by transformers_va on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:58am CDT
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but I'm curious.. I put in an order for 2 Unicrons - does this mean that I am counted as 1 backer or 2 backers?
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035690)
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:01am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:01am CDT
Did the number of backers change when you ordered your second one?
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035691)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:11am CDT
I believe it counts as two from what I've heard. I may be wrong though.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:11am CDT
transformers_va wrote:Perhaps this is a stupid question, but I'm curious.. I put in an order for 2 Unicrons - does this mean that I am counted as 1 backer or 2 backers?
I believe it counts as two from what I've heard. I may be wrong though.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035693)
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:17am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:17am CDT
I was being facetious. I believe as it says on the page ‘number of backers’ they’re counting units as backers. I would categorize that as a laypersons understanding we’re all thinking 8,000 Unicrons.
Limit five per transaction, or units total, not five per backer.
They’re waiting for 8,000 Unicrons.
Limit five per transaction, or units total, not five per backer.
They’re waiting for 8,000 Unicrons.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035694)
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:18am CDT
I'm not asking the literal meaning. I'm noting that, contrary to Sabr's statement, TFsource does appear to in fact require a down payment.
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:18am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
Meaning that if you cancel the order yourself, you won't get the deposit back.
I'm not asking the literal meaning. I'm noting that, contrary to Sabr's statement, TFsource does appear to in fact require a down payment.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035697)
Posted by Dragologer on August 25th, 2019 @ 3:44am CDT
Posted by Dragologer on August 25th, 2019 @ 3:44am CDT
Re: Haslab Unicron At 3000 Backers, Needs Our Help to get the Final 5000 (2035682)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:18am CDT
Again, would if I could, but it's beyond me. I'm a highschooler only barely managing to budget in my collection. I won't be able to get together the money in time, and with my current situation saving up for over a year isn't a good alternative either.
Dragologer- Um...I'm a highschooler. I got the money together. all depends on your priorities.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:18am CDT
Again, would if I could, but it's beyond me. I'm a highschooler only barely managing to budget in my collection. I won't be able to get together the money in time, and with my current situation saving up for over a year isn't a good alternative either.
Dragologer- Um...I'm a highschooler. I got the money together. all depends on your priorities.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035698)
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:20am CDT
Pretty sure that was a late addition. There was a lot of talk about TFSource being the better option since they didn't require a deposit while BBTS did.
BTW, Unicron already added 29 orders since that last article went up overnight. That's a little promising way to start the week.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:20am CDT
megatronus wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
Meaning that if you cancel the order yourself, you won't get the deposit back.
I'm not asking the literal meaning. I'm noting that, contrary to Sabr's statement, TFsource does appear to in fact require a down payment.
Pretty sure that was a late addition. There was a lot of talk about TFSource being the better option since they didn't require a deposit while BBTS did.
BTW, Unicron already added 29 orders since that last article went up overnight. That's a little promising way to start the week.
Emerje
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035700)
Posted by DMSL on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:45am CDT
Posted by DMSL on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:45am CDT
I am not going to back this, it is too expensive. The transformation is basic, for this price there should not be all that kibble hanging from the botmode. Let your wallet speak and don't back it.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035701)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:47am CDT
It's like this: It doesn't matter if this Unicron is funded or not. There will always be another one. This one will simply end up alongside the G1 and BW Neo counterparts. The Mega Corporation will likely pay for the next one themselves too, like the rest of the line
I mentioned before, several pages back probably. A Unicron in the Titan Class would have made more sense than a crowd funding oddity. Titan Class represent the Big Boys. Those at the end of the spectrum, that scale doesn't really apply to. So far it has been 3/4 City Bots and maybe, the new SIEGE Omega Supreme (although I don't know the specifics on his new height offhand).
How I would justify it, are they bigger than a Gestalt? If Yes, they go in Titan Class. It would be asinine to make a further class beyond that as realistically it would only apply to one figure - Unicron, and potentially two retool/decos, in Primus/Cybertron and Atlas/Earth. That in itself would lead to the pricing issue that has emerged with this figure. As long as he is an inch or two taller than Fort Max he will look much bigger anyway, due to his Planet Mode. Trying to assign any kind of grander scale to him is really silly.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:47am CDT
NeonPrime wrote:Wow...I would LOVE to help on this but it's just way too expensive
It's like this: It doesn't matter if this Unicron is funded or not. There will always be another one. This one will simply end up alongside the G1 and BW Neo counterparts. The Mega Corporation will likely pay for the next one themselves too, like the rest of the line
I mentioned before, several pages back probably. A Unicron in the Titan Class would have made more sense than a crowd funding oddity. Titan Class represent the Big Boys. Those at the end of the spectrum, that scale doesn't really apply to. So far it has been 3/4 City Bots and maybe, the new SIEGE Omega Supreme (although I don't know the specifics on his new height offhand).
How I would justify it, are they bigger than a Gestalt? If Yes, they go in Titan Class. It would be asinine to make a further class beyond that as realistically it would only apply to one figure - Unicron, and potentially two retool/decos, in Primus/Cybertron and Atlas/Earth. That in itself would lead to the pricing issue that has emerged with this figure. As long as he is an inch or two taller than Fort Max he will look much bigger anyway, due to his Planet Mode. Trying to assign any kind of grander scale to him is really silly.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035703)
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:54am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:54am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:NeonPrime wrote:Wow...I would LOVE to help on this but it's just way too expensive
It's like this: It doesn't matter if this Unicron is funded or not. There will always be another one. This one will simply end up alongside the G1 and BW Neo counterparts. The Mega Corporation will likely pay for the next one themselves too, like the rest of the line
I mentioned before, several pages back probably. A Unicron in the Titan Class would have made more sense than a crowd funding oddity. Titan Class represent the Big Boys. Those at the end of the spectrum, that scale doesn't really apply to. So far it has been 3/4 City Bots and maybe, the new SIEGE Omega Supreme (although I don't know the specifics on his new height offhand).
How I would justify it, are they bigger than a Gestalt? If Yes, they go in Titan Class. It would be asinine to make a further class beyond that as realistically it would only apply to one figure - Unicron, and potentially two retool/decos, in Primus/Cybertron and Atlas/Earth. That in itself would lead to the pricing issue that has emerged with this figure. As long as he is an inch or two taller than Fort Max he will look much bigger anyway, due to his Planet Mode. Trying to assign any kind of grander scale to him is really silly.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035704)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:58am CDT
Unfortunately some people do have more money than sense. This crowdfunding, if successful, paves the way for exclusive figures-on-demand, which is a dangerous road to go down. Some still don't see it...
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 4:58am CDT
DMSL wrote:I am not going to back this, it is too expensive. The transformation is basic, for this price there should not be all that kibble hanging from the botmode. Let your wallet speak and don't back it.
Unfortunately some people do have more money than sense. This crowdfunding, if successful, paves the way for exclusive figures-on-demand, which is a dangerous road to go down. Some still don't see it...
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035705)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:04am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:04am CDT
I don't see why people are wishing ill on the project, it will either go forward or not. People have expressed their wish to own it and let that be that. You may not like it but no one is forcing you to buy this, so let those who want it go in peace. Not saying you can't state why you don't want it, just remember that it's only your prefence.
I think there would be worse compromises made to a titan unicron, especially to make it a perfect sphere alt and have it's robot mode be accurate.
I think there would be worse compromises made to a titan unicron, especially to make it a perfect sphere alt and have it's robot mode be accurate.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035706)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:14am CDT
How so? You make it sound like a perfect sphere is something previously impossible to shellforming, at a lower price point, which it isn't. Shellformers exist at every level of the line, albeit it to varying degrees of success.
Plus, other than the Armada Unicron, there still isn't an accurate Robot Mode, even with the HasLab one.
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^ That, still doesn't look like this:
You're doing a disservice to the already impressive updates that exist within the Titan Class line, especially Generations Trypticon, by somehow saying they aren't good enough. When all of them are superior in every way to the slabs of plastic they came from originally.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:14am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think there would be worse compromises made to a titan unicron, especially to make it a perfect sphere alt and have it's robot mode be accurate.
How so? You make it sound like a perfect sphere is something previously impossible to shellforming, at a lower price point, which it isn't. Shellformers exist at every level of the line, albeit it to varying degrees of success.
Plus, other than the Armada Unicron, there still isn't an accurate Robot Mode, even with the HasLab one.
^ That, still doesn't look like this:
You're doing a disservice to the already impressive updates that exist within the Titan Class line, especially Generations Trypticon, by somehow saying they aren't good enough. When all of them are superior in every way to the slabs of plastic they came from originally.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035708)
Posted by ThunderThruster on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:26am CDT
By this logic, we ought to be getting a 12 foot tall (at the minimum) Unicron.
Posted by ThunderThruster on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:26am CDT
Burn wrote:Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
By this logic, we ought to be getting a 12 foot tall (at the minimum) Unicron.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035709)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:40am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:40am CDT
I'm thinking more of the logic that the last perfect sphere tf we got was Primus in the supreme class, who got the benefit of being designed knowing that the planet pieces had to go somewhere, unlike the original unicron designs which just cheated from the get go. Armada unicron wasn't a full planet, cheated with those two shell pieces which was only accurate to the Armada cartoon itself. Just as you say I'm decrying the work of the titan class, I think you're decrying the work of these designers who made this unicron an unrivaled toy, something he should be, not to be outdone by the next years titan class.
I really don't get why you continue to rag on it, AllNew, I know you dislike the preordering system here but it makes perfect business sense and I think your fears are unfounded, especially since star wars toys are still doing fine after the barge. I think you're being a wee bit paranoid
I really don't get why you continue to rag on it, AllNew, I know you dislike the preordering system here but it makes perfect business sense and I think your fears are unfounded, especially since star wars toys are still doing fine after the barge. I think you're being a wee bit paranoid
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035711)
Posted by 1984forever on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:56am CDT
Posted by 1984forever on August 25th, 2019 @ 5:56am CDT
I remember saying back when the sail barge was announced that I just wanted a giant battle damaged Unicron head playset for my classics. I think Hasbro would have been better off going that route instead.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035712)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:29am CDT
Exactly. A perfect sphere figure does already exist, in Primus (back in 2006). So it isn't anything new or unprecedented.
It's not really 'unrivalled' either, when everything was shoved onto his back. I personally thought we were passed this, in 2019:
Especially since, (bearing in mind these are both cheaper and made to a Higher Spec) these exist:
MP-36: Zero kibble
MP-43: kibble effectively incorporated into the overall design
I have no doubt a future Unicron will lean more towards either MP Dinobot or the Megatrons and actively conceal the kibble for a better overall aesthetic.
Since when would it make sense for a Mega Corporation to need crowd funding? Would you be supportive if Microsoft did the same for Windows 12? or Sony with the Playstation 6??
Star Wars, again, is a different beast. The brand is larger, the fanbase equally so. The merchandise already exists at many price ranges. Casual fans (who are always the majority of every fanbase) wouldn't care if the Sail Barge existed as a playset or not.
Transformers is the bots themselves. My concerns are in light of the already rising prices HasTak have been forcing upon this line, lately. MP-44 and HasLab Unicron are just the latest two extremes, but everything else is equally rising. The fact that some so rabidly buy into them still, would give Hasbro no incentive to not keep raising those price tags, regardless.
Note, This is not the same with every toy maker. The rest of them, even the other collector specific ones, such as Storm Collectibles, only rise in value on the secondary market.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:29am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm thinking more of the logic that the last perfect sphere tf we got was Primus in the supreme class, who got the benefit of being designed knowing that the planet pieces had to go somewhere, unlike the original unicron designs which just cheated from the get go. Armada unicron wasn't a full planet, cheated with those two shell pieces which was only accurate to the Armada cartoon itself. Just as you say I'm decrying the work of the titan class, I think you're decrying the work of these designers who made this unicron an unrivaled toy, something he should be, not to be outdone by the next years titan class.
Exactly. A perfect sphere figure does already exist, in Primus (back in 2006). So it isn't anything new or unprecedented.
It's not really 'unrivalled' either, when everything was shoved onto his back. I personally thought we were passed this, in 2019:
Especially since, (bearing in mind these are both cheaper and made to a Higher Spec) these exist:
MP-36: Zero kibble
MP-43: kibble effectively incorporated into the overall design
I have no doubt a future Unicron will lean more towards either MP Dinobot or the Megatrons and actively conceal the kibble for a better overall aesthetic.
ZeroWolf wrote:I really don't get why you continue to rag on it, AllNew, I know you dislike the preordering system here but it makes perfect business sense and I think your fears are unfounded, especially since star wars toys are still doing fine after the barge. I think you're being a wee bit paranoid
Since when would it make sense for a Mega Corporation to need crowd funding? Would you be supportive if Microsoft did the same for Windows 12? or Sony with the Playstation 6??
Star Wars, again, is a different beast. The brand is larger, the fanbase equally so. The merchandise already exists at many price ranges. Casual fans (who are always the majority of every fanbase) wouldn't care if the Sail Barge existed as a playset or not.
Transformers is the bots themselves. My concerns are in light of the already rising prices HasTak have been forcing upon this line, lately. MP-44 and HasLab Unicron are just the latest two extremes, but everything else is equally rising. The fact that some so rabidly buy into them still, would give Hasbro no incentive to not keep raising those price tags, regardless.
Note, This is not the same with every toy maker. The rest of them, even the other collector specific ones, such as Storm Collectibles, only rise in value on the secondary market.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035713)
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:29am CDT
Takara Tomy had been using this model for years on the Takara Tomy Mall with their exclusives. They didn't have minimums like a crowdfund, but they did have a limited window that they would take orders and then put them into production for release nearly a year later. It's a popular model in Japan that a lot of companies use. Good Smile Company does it twice a year for their Wonder Festival exclusives, first they produce a limited run for sale at the event and then take a limited time online pre-order for a second batch six months later. None go into their store or made again later just like Takara Tomy Mall, the online orders are entirely on demand.
Personally I think it's a great system, it ensures that everyone that orders will get the figure, no fear of something selling out or not being sold in certain stores. Your order guarantees you're getting an exclusive that may have been under supplied if the company simply guesses how many they need. Now, granted, TTM hasn't sold a $600 figure using this method, but that's not really the point. They only stopped because of brand unification and shared exclusives with Hasbro, the model worked. Thinking about it they might actually still be doing a version of this since even the Pulse TTM releases have a short window to order during.
Let's face it, Hasbro has had one success in Jaba's Barge and one failure in Cookie Monster which sends a message to them that they can't just make anything they want and think there's an audience willing to pay for it. And really, if Unicron does succeed then what? Who else can they make that would be a fitting follow up? Primus? That would be an even harder sell than Unicron since Cybertron didn't transform in the cartoon eliminating the all important nostalgia factor. There's no reason to worry about any kind of floodgates opening just because one giant character's giant figure sold well.
Also, who says they wont make a Titan Unicron regardless? Their Titan options are dwindling fast. After Scorponok they really only have obscure repaints left (I wouldn't hold my breath for Grandus), they're going to need some new characters to keep the line running. Who better than Unicron and Primus to celebrate the 40th anniversary?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:29am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:DMSL wrote:I am not going to back this, it is too expensive. The transformation is basic, for this price there should not be all that kibble hanging from the botmode. Let your wallet speak and don't back it.
Unfortunately some people do have more money than sense. This crowdfunding, if successful, paves the way for exclusive figures-on-demand, which is a dangerous road to go down. Some still don't see it...
Takara Tomy had been using this model for years on the Takara Tomy Mall with their exclusives. They didn't have minimums like a crowdfund, but they did have a limited window that they would take orders and then put them into production for release nearly a year later. It's a popular model in Japan that a lot of companies use. Good Smile Company does it twice a year for their Wonder Festival exclusives, first they produce a limited run for sale at the event and then take a limited time online pre-order for a second batch six months later. None go into their store or made again later just like Takara Tomy Mall, the online orders are entirely on demand.
Personally I think it's a great system, it ensures that everyone that orders will get the figure, no fear of something selling out or not being sold in certain stores. Your order guarantees you're getting an exclusive that may have been under supplied if the company simply guesses how many they need. Now, granted, TTM hasn't sold a $600 figure using this method, but that's not really the point. They only stopped because of brand unification and shared exclusives with Hasbro, the model worked. Thinking about it they might actually still be doing a version of this since even the Pulse TTM releases have a short window to order during.
Let's face it, Hasbro has had one success in Jaba's Barge and one failure in Cookie Monster which sends a message to them that they can't just make anything they want and think there's an audience willing to pay for it. And really, if Unicron does succeed then what? Who else can they make that would be a fitting follow up? Primus? That would be an even harder sell than Unicron since Cybertron didn't transform in the cartoon eliminating the all important nostalgia factor. There's no reason to worry about any kind of floodgates opening just because one giant character's giant figure sold well.
Also, who says they wont make a Titan Unicron regardless? Their Titan options are dwindling fast. After Scorponok they really only have obscure repaints left (I wouldn't hold my breath for Grandus), they're going to need some new characters to keep the line running. Who better than Unicron and Primus to celebrate the 40th anniversary?
Emerje
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035715)
Posted by Burn on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:36am CDT
Posted by Burn on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:36am CDT
Too big? Too expensive? Would be better if done smaller and cheaper?
Then go buy one of the many Armada versions that are out there.
Simple.
Then go buy one of the many Armada versions that are out there.
Simple.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035716)
Posted by Glarryg on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:47am CDT
Gotta be honest: this is why I'm not a backer. This is definitely a marvel of engineering, and a beautiful looking figure, but there's a smaller, less expensive Unicron out there if I want one.
Glarryg
Posted by Glarryg on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:47am CDT
Stargrave wrote:They already made a smaller Unicron if you want one.
Gotta be honest: this is why I'm not a backer. This is definitely a marvel of engineering, and a beautiful looking figure, but there's a smaller, less expensive Unicron out there if I want one.
Glarryg
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035723)
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:49am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:49am CDT
It's only a few inches bigger than a titan, so making it titan class would be kinda pointless.
I'll have a look at backing this week (as long as payments secure) tho I didn't pick up the Unicron with better paint job or even the green minion version due to its price of around £150 with the orig armada toy being £50 if that. I doubt they will be making another version of him or anything that rivals the haslab one until the 50th anniversary so to me it's not a purchase that's going to be outdated any time soon.
I'll have a look at backing this week (as long as payments secure) tho I didn't pick up the Unicron with better paint job or even the green minion version due to its price of around £150 with the orig armada toy being £50 if that. I doubt they will be making another version of him or anything that rivals the haslab one until the 50th anniversary so to me it's not a purchase that's going to be outdated any time soon.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035724)
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:52am CDT
What Primus are you looking at? It's a perfect ball, sure, but only because his bot mode has massive chunks of planet on his legs and back instead of trying to tuck them out of sight. Is that what you would prefer from HasLab Unicron? A much better example is Crossover Death Star Darth Vader from a year later, but even his panels weren't nearly as well tucks away as Unicrons are.
You really have a gift for exaggerating things, you know that. You really think that's comparable to this?
I'd really like to know where you think those panels could be realistically tucked away to without compromising the structure of his torso and legs and moving parts in the process? The figure weighs 19 pounds, you can't use tiny joints that might be bearing the weight of, say, his arms during the transformation without risk of them breaking just to make it easier to open hi torso and stuff things inside. You can see in early sketches that they tried to tuck the panels away, it was something they wanted to do, it obviously couldn't be done or they would have done it.
Remind me which one of those turns into a sphere again? G1 Megatron can be without kibble because he can incorporate a bunch of parts into his bot mode and turn other ones inside out.
And Beast Megatron, you must be joking. He doesn't have any kibble because he doesn't have any kibble to conceal! He's a robot made of dino parts! It's only slightly more compact than the original figure from '96 and the transformation isn't much more complex. Definitely not as complex as Unicron, I didn't even use the instructions.
Bad examples. Windows is moving towards a subscription model in the future, since 10 they've considered it a "service". As an OS platform one of its jobs is to really sell computers and compatible software. It isn't the type of thing you would crowdfund.
And consoles are loss leaders, they aren't designed to make a profit on their own, they're made to sell games (which get crowdfunded all the time). That's why console crowdfunds fail every single time.
That sound more like an argument for the Barge to NOT be crowdfunded. If the fan base is so much larger then they don't need something like that to sell. Just look at the toy aisles around Christmas, there are always these massive expensive Star Wars toys at Walmart and Target, but neither place will sell Titans in their stores. Heck, in perspective the Barge wasn't that much more than some of the massive Black Series vehicles found at retail, but you can't say the same about Unicron, that's why it needed a crowdfund, to ensure they could actually make a profit on it. If 8,000 fans aren't going to buy it then there's no hope for it at retail. The Barge probably would have sold at retail just fine.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:52am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'm thinking more of the logic that the last perfect sphere tf we got was Primus in the supreme class, who got the benefit of being designed knowing that the planet pieces had to go somewhere, unlike the original unicron designs which just cheated from the get go. Armada unicron wasn't a full planet, cheated with those two shell pieces which was only accurate to the Armada cartoon itself. Just as you say I'm decrying the work of the titan class, I think you're decrying the work of these designers who made this unicron an unrivaled toy, something he should be, not to be outdone by the next years titan class.
Exactly. A perfect sphere figure does already exist, in Primus (back in 2006). So it isn't anything new or unprecedented.
What Primus are you looking at? It's a perfect ball, sure, but only because his bot mode has massive chunks of planet on his legs and back instead of trying to tuck them out of sight. Is that what you would prefer from HasLab Unicron? A much better example is Crossover Death Star Darth Vader from a year later, but even his panels weren't nearly as well tucks away as Unicrons are.
It's not really 'unrivalled' either, when everything was shoved onto his back. I personally thought we were passed this, in 2019:
You really have a gift for exaggerating things, you know that. You really think that's comparable to this?
I'd really like to know where you think those panels could be realistically tucked away to without compromising the structure of his torso and legs and moving parts in the process? The figure weighs 19 pounds, you can't use tiny joints that might be bearing the weight of, say, his arms during the transformation without risk of them breaking just to make it easier to open hi torso and stuff things inside. You can see in early sketches that they tried to tuck the panels away, it was something they wanted to do, it obviously couldn't be done or they would have done it.
Especially since, (bearing in mind these are both cheaper and made to a Higher Spec) these exist:
MP-36: Zero kibble
MP-43: kibble effectively incorporated into the overall design
Remind me which one of those turns into a sphere again? G1 Megatron can be without kibble because he can incorporate a bunch of parts into his bot mode and turn other ones inside out.
And Beast Megatron, you must be joking. He doesn't have any kibble because he doesn't have any kibble to conceal! He's a robot made of dino parts! It's only slightly more compact than the original figure from '96 and the transformation isn't much more complex. Definitely not as complex as Unicron, I didn't even use the instructions.
Since when would it make sense for a Mega Corporation to need crowd funding? Would you be supportive if Microsoft did the same for Windows 12? or Sony with the Playstation 6??
Bad examples. Windows is moving towards a subscription model in the future, since 10 they've considered it a "service". As an OS platform one of its jobs is to really sell computers and compatible software. It isn't the type of thing you would crowdfund.
And consoles are loss leaders, they aren't designed to make a profit on their own, they're made to sell games (which get crowdfunded all the time). That's why console crowdfunds fail every single time.
Star Wars, again, is a different beast. The brand is larger, the fanbase equally so. The merchandise already exists at many price ranges. Casual fans (who are always the majority of every fanbase) wouldn't care if the Sail Barge existed as a playset or not.
That sound more like an argument for the Barge to NOT be crowdfunded. If the fan base is so much larger then they don't need something like that to sell. Just look at the toy aisles around Christmas, there are always these massive expensive Star Wars toys at Walmart and Target, but neither place will sell Titans in their stores. Heck, in perspective the Barge wasn't that much more than some of the massive Black Series vehicles found at retail, but you can't say the same about Unicron, that's why it needed a crowdfund, to ensure they could actually make a profit on it. If 8,000 fans aren't going to buy it then there's no hope for it at retail. The Barge probably would have sold at retail just fine.
Emerje
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035726)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:19am CDT
But, if Unicron gets made and TFSource suddenly charges me $150 on or around August 31, then so be it. I can definitely swing $150. More easily than I can do $600. The rest of the cost still won't come until after I have time to save it all up, AND TFSource does free shipping for this item as well, so it's all good.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:19am CDT
That definitely was not there when I placed my preorder. And looking over my bank account's transaction history, there is no Paypal charge from TFSource, so I did not get charged for Unicron.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
But, if Unicron gets made and TFSource suddenly charges me $150 on or around August 31, then so be it. I can definitely swing $150. More easily than I can do $600. The rest of the cost still won't come until after I have time to save it all up, AND TFSource does free shipping for this item as well, so it's all good.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035731)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:34am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:34am CDT
Regarding the idea of making Unicron a Titan, sure they could have, but it still would have had to be crowdfunded anyway, since even though it would have been only a few inches shorter, the thing would have still be a giant ball on a stick that no mass retailer would ever stock in brick-and-mortar stores because it's just a giant ball on a stick!
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035732)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT
Exactly what I did, it's just a better option for those who cannot afford to buy it outright in 6 days.
Also this. This is why Unicron should not be shrunk.
That's new, that was not there when I pre-ordered.
Well, this is the first time i've heard someone complaint he's too simple and not too complex. weird.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Exactly what I did, it's just a better option for those who cannot afford to buy it outright in 6 days.
Burn wrote:Reducing his size to that of a Titan would be pointless.
He's not a Titan.
He's Unicron.
He's a class unto himself.
Titans are the biggest of Transformers.
This guy is a GOD.
Also this. This is why Unicron should not be shrunk.
megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
That's new, that was not there when I pre-ordered.
DMSL wrote:I am not going to back this, it is too expensive. The transformation is basic, for this price there should not be all that kibble hanging from the botmode. Let your wallet speak and don't back it.
Well, this is the first time i've heard someone complaint he's too simple and not too complex. weird.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035734)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:44am CDT
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:44am CDT
I'm tempted to buy into Unicron, but that much money is earmarked for a M35A2 army truck, which I can use to move things bigger than my minivan can handle, and make the other guys at the office jealous 
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035736)
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:53am CDT
I think someone up-thread said TFsource changed the policy mid-stream - my bad, wasn't trying to heckle you!
But yes, it's definitely still a good option, especially if they continue to not charge tax (which BBTS does now).
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:53am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That definitely was not there when I placed my preorder. And looking over my bank account's transaction history, there is no Paypal charge from TFSource, so I did not get charged for Unicron.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's especially good since TFSource, unlike other options, has no down payment for their preorder.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The high price and short notice are exactly why I opted to go with the more feasible route of preordering Unicron from TFSource and saving up the money over the steady course of a year and a half.
Seems like people are constantly forgetting that this is an option.
"$150 NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED. If the project is not fully funded and the product is cancelled, the deposit will be refunded."
?
But, if Unicron gets made and TFSource suddenly charges me $150 on or around August 31, then so be it. I can definitely swing $150. More easily than I can do $600. The rest of the cost still won't come until after I have time to save it all up, AND TFSource does free shipping for this item as well, so it's all good.
I think someone up-thread said TFsource changed the policy mid-stream - my bad, wasn't trying to heckle you!
But yes, it's definitely still a good option, especially if they continue to not charge tax (which BBTS does now).
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035739)
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:13am CDT
Preach! This is probably the best explanation of our position that I've come across.
Posted by megatronus on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:13am CDT
Emerje wrote:There's no reason to worry about any kind of floodgates opening just because one giant character's giant figure sold well.
Preach! This is probably the best explanation of our position that I've come across.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035744)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:40am CDT
And my priorities lie with the Seacons and with Siege. Unicron is awesome, that is undeniable, but to me he's always more of an event than a character. It would be awesome to have, but there are other things that I'd rather have instead.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:40am CDT
Dragologer wrote:Re: Haslab Unicron At 3000 Backers, Needs Our Help to get the Final 5000 (2035682)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:18am CDT
Again, would if I could, but it's beyond me. I'm a highschooler only barely managing to budget in my collection. I won't be able to get together the money in time, and with my current situation saving up for over a year isn't a good alternative either.
Dragologer- Um...I'm a highschooler. I got the money together. all depends on your priorities.
And my priorities lie with the Seacons and with Siege. Unicron is awesome, that is undeniable, but to me he's always more of an event than a character. It would be awesome to have, but there are other things that I'd rather have instead.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035746)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:48am CDT
It's pretty much a no-win situation for those of us who want a Unicron that isn't enormous, considering the only alternative at the moment is outdated and inaccurate.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:48am CDT
Burn wrote:Too big? Too expensive? Would be better if done smaller and cheaper?
Then go buy one of the many Armada versions that are out there.
Simple.
It's pretty much a no-win situation for those of us who want a Unicron that isn't enormous, considering the only alternative at the moment is outdated and inaccurate.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035756)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 25th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
Inaccurate depends on the depiction of him you want to be accurate to as Armada unicron is accurate to his depiction in that series.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035764)
Posted by joevill on August 25th, 2019 @ 10:47am CDT
Posted by joevill on August 25th, 2019 @ 10:47am CDT
Come on people! Just put it on your charge card and pay it off at your convenience!
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035769)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:50am CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:50am CDT
As much as I would like to I can't support this due to the ass raping price on the toy (I got my bonus from work right when they started and had more than enough to join the kickstarter but I didn't because my non impulse brain functions prevailed). I hope it doesn't get made and then maybe then they will re-consider trying it at a lower price point. If it were around $300 then I could see more jumping onboard but for over $600 (after shipping), I am not rich and have bills as do most of us so I chose to be responsible and take care of my family.
And no I am not a slave to the credit card companies, I know better.
Already got them!
And no I am not a slave to the credit card companies, I know better.
Burn wrote:Too big? Too expensive? Would be better if done smaller and cheaper?
Then go buy one of the many Armada versions that are out there.
Simple.
Already got them!
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035770)
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:55am CDT
I'm glad I'm seeing some of the stuff I've been saying echoed finally. A smaller Unicron would be a lot better, you'd get more people who can afford him, actually have room for him, etc. Who cares about scale because Unicron can't scale with anything unless you package him with stuff smaller than mini-cons. I get some people want a giant centerpiece like this, I think that's cool too, but practically speaking it just seems like they could sell more at a smaller price. I'd like the giant centerpiece, but it's not that important to me.
And no, compromises would not have to be made at a smaller size except maybe some very minor detailing. But look at Supreme class Primus, inches smaller than the Titans and has tons of detail. If Unicron could scale with anything, it would be that Primus anyways! The only thing you're sacrificing is perhaps some sturdiness to the parts.
And yes, showing examples of better designs with regard to kibble like MP Megatron are valid. There are many designs that people cry "you can't do it without kibble" until it actually happens. Just look at the dozens of takes on Movie figures like Prime and Megatron and how much they've improved, or even Masterpiece figures with multiple versions. A better Unicron transformation scheme exists yet to be designed, this toy is not bumping up against some law of physics that prevents more clever engineering. Shellformer or not, it's ok to ask for a better design.
And no, compromises would not have to be made at a smaller size except maybe some very minor detailing. But look at Supreme class Primus, inches smaller than the Titans and has tons of detail. If Unicron could scale with anything, it would be that Primus anyways! The only thing you're sacrificing is perhaps some sturdiness to the parts.
And yes, showing examples of better designs with regard to kibble like MP Megatron are valid. There are many designs that people cry "you can't do it without kibble" until it actually happens. Just look at the dozens of takes on Movie figures like Prime and Megatron and how much they've improved, or even Masterpiece figures with multiple versions. A better Unicron transformation scheme exists yet to be designed, this toy is not bumping up against some law of physics that prevents more clever engineering. Shellformer or not, it's ok to ask for a better design.
Re: Haslab Unicron at 3,000 Backers ... needs our help to get the final 5,000 (2035772)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:58am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 11:58am CDT
A smaller Unicron already exists! In multiple release variants.
If a smaller Unicron is all that people want, then there is no point for them to even make a new one at all.
If a smaller Unicron is all that people want, then there is no point for them to even make a new one at all.
