Image Revealing Face of Generations Selects Nightprowler

I just wish it would have been another color than yellow for the robots bits.

william-james88 wrote:And the one time that the original Nightprowler was revealed to the world, it was shown with it's mutant head (image shown below).

Not the only time. The first time showed Nightprowler's robot head:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And the one time that the original Nightprowler was revealed to the world, it was shown with it's mutant head (image shown below).

Not the only time. The first time showed Nightprowler's robot head:

Thanks, I saw that but was worried it was a digibash

He'll probably look better in person, the two tone gray is hardly noticeable in photos. Would have preferred more paint in the arms and legs, especially when Buzzsaw seems to have a premium paint job with that nice fade in the legs and possibly a black paint wash on the wasp eyes. Brighter bot eyes would have been nice, too, but maybe that's also just the photos, remember how BB Kup's eyes looked in initial photos?

Emerje

I may end up getting gray Cheetor anyway. Might as well fully commit getting all the pussycats.

His deco would really pop more if his gray had been blue like the Universe test shot. As is, he looks so drab.

Sabrblade wrote:His deco would really pop more if his gray had been blue like the Universe test shot. As is, he looks so drab.

Maybe Hasbro will troll us 1 more time and release a Selects version with the blue and gray inverted.

Sabrblade wrote:His deco would really pop more if his gray had been blue like the Universe test shot. As is, he looks so drab.

I'm fairly certain the "blue" tint to the gray is the lighting and not the actual color of the plastic, especially since it looks gray in the other photo.

Sabrblade wrote:His deco would really pop more if his gray had been blue like the Universe test shot. As is, he looks so drab.

It would also help if they used yellow plastic or paint for the upper part of the pelvic area which just looks terrible here.

Someone on our facebook page noticed the autobot insignia on Nightprowler. Yeah, that is odd

william-james88 wrote:Someone on our facebook page noticed the autobot insignia on Nightprowler. Yeah, that is odd

Not really. The original Nightprowler was gonna be a Universe toy, a line that used Autobot and Decepticon symbols for all of its toys, including the Beast Wars and Beast Machines molds it used.

Had he been released, Nightprowler would have been an Autobot fighting in the Universe War as a Child of Primus.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Someone on our facebook page noticed the autobot insignia on Nightprowler. Yeah, that is odd

Not really. The original Nightprowler was gonna be a Universe toy, a line that used Autobot and Decepticon symbols for all of its toys, including the Beast Wars and Beast Machines molds it used.

Had he been released, Nightprowler would have been an Autobot fighting in the Universe War as a Child of Primus.

Interesting, thanks

Er, I already posted (this) image in a thread to a previous story here at Seibertron, and even cited the original (Allspark) link:

- rumours-of-exclusives-in-2022-t117277s125.php#p2124293

However, the main news article didn't credit my post, or more importantly, the original Allspark post?

What's going on?

Will probably didn't see your post.

Bit late to the party on Nightprowler, but he looks good. I'm surprised he's still an Autobot rather than a Maximal, while I know the original cancelled toy was set to be an Autobot, I didn't think that would carry over to this new toy. I might get a Nightprowler once it's out, because snow leopards are one of my favourite animals, even if it and the Kingdom Cheetor mould in general doesn't look all that much like a snow leopard.

ZeroWolf wrote:Will probably didn't see your post.

Who's "Will"?

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Will probably didn't see your post.

Who's "Will"?

william-james88, the news guy

Autobot N wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Will probably didn't see your post.

Who's "Will"?

william-james88, the news guy

I'm too used to Everyone knowing who I'm talking about clearly. But Autobot N is right.

Autobot N wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Will probably didn't see your post.

Who's "Will"?

william-james88, the news guy

Ohhhh. Thanks.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may end up getting gray Cheetor anyway. Might as well fully commit getting all the pussycats.

If we can do it for the Datsun bros, why not!

Buzzsaw's head looks SO GOOD! I love Buzzsaw, and is head sculpt is really fantastic. Definitely getting.

Kinda bummed Nightprowler doesn't use the mutant head, but he still looks cool, I will be getting him

JTPrime17 found some product numbers for some of this upcoming stuff:

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler: F5762
Tra Gen Legacy Beast Assortment (the revealed Sandstorm, Buzzsaw, & Nightprowler): F4052

Also, now that I've revisited this thread:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.

Indeed. And by that logic, anything that is not the OG G1 Sunbow english cartoon is "fanfiction".

Yeah I'm also interested in hearing what logic has led to this statement.

I shall explain... in due time. It's after midnight right now (I had a long shift at work today), so I need to get to bed soon. But there are things I do wish say on the matter. I encourage y'all to keep pestering me about this until I do.

I just realized/remembered we never followed up with this, so consider this a pestering.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.

Indeed. And by that logic, anything that is not the OG G1 Sunbow english cartoon is "fanfiction".

Yeah I'm also interested in hearing what logic has led to this statement.

I shall explain... in due time. It's after midnight right now (I had a long shift at work today), so I need to get to bed soon. But there are things I do wish say on the matter. I encourage y'all to keep pestering me about this until I do.

It's not fanfiction in the truest sense of the term from what I wager. The show was created by people who had no idea what Transformers actually was or what its universe had to offer, so they received a lot of input from the long-time fans at the time via online newsgroups (90's version of forums), especially with the ties to Generation 1 & 2. As such, several fans got a shout out in the show, and one you may all know: Ben Yee of BWTF.com was the biggest name here, he got a special shout out by a very random Waspinator as "Wonko the Sane", his online name at the time.

So yeah, lots of fan input, but I'm pretty sure there's more to it....


Come on, tell us!

Nemesis Primal wrote:JTPrime17 found some product numbers for some of this upcoming stuff:

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler: F5762
Tra Gen Legacy Beast Assortment (the revealed Sandstorm, Buzzsaw, & Nightprowler): F4052

I'm looking forward to seeing how Override turns out, I was skeptical when the leaks claimed she was going to be an extensive retool of Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod, and I'm still not sure how that will work, but I am eager to get some Unicron Trilogy characters on my Multiverse shelf. I've seen a lot of members on TFW2005 speculating that the other Convoys from Galaxy Force will be getting new toys as well in the near future; we're getting Override/Nitro Convoy and Metroplex/Megalo Convoy, so it would definitely be nice if we got the others either next year or the year after.

Munkky wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:JTPrime17 found some product numbers for some of this upcoming stuff:

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler: F5762
Tra Gen Legacy Beast Assortment (the revealed Sandstorm, Buzzsaw, & Nightprowler): F4052

I'm looking forward to seeing how Override turns out, I was skeptical when the leaks claimed she was going to be an extensive retool of Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod, and I'm still not sure how that will work, but I am eager to get some Unicron Trilogy characters on my Multiverse shelf. I've seen a lot of members on TFW2005 speculating that the other Convoys from Galaxy Force will be getting new toys as well in the near future; we're getting Override/Nitro Convoy and Metroplex/Megalo Convoy, so it would definitely be nice if we got the others either next year or the year after.

Does your mother know you've been hanging out at sites like that? I hope you've had your jabs beforehand and spent 2 weeks in quarantine before coming back to Seibertron...

Thanks to JTPrime17 we have product codes for two toys we already had rumours of: Hauler and Override. Both are voyagers and both are part of the Walmart exclusive Velocitron line made up of redecos. Hauler will of course be a redeco of Grappel, we even saw him already in the recent Wreckers comic. Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

Here are the product numbers.

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override X2
Product Number: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler X1
Product Number: F5762

william-james88 wrote:Thanks to JTPrime17 we have product codes for two toys we already had rumours of: Hauler and Override. Both are voyagers and both are part of the Walmart exclusive Velocitron line made up of redecos. Hauler will of course be a redeco of Grappel, we even saw him already in the recent Wreckers comic. Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

Here are the product numbers.

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override X2
Product Number: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler X1
Product Number: F5762

Someone will no doubt correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only other Voyager figure with a car mode they could use for her is Springer.

I would not be opposed to a triple changing Override though.

EERRRRR I need pictures of that Override!

I'll keep an eye out for Hauler. I plan to get every editions of the newest Grapple/Inferno molds and I will NOT miss this one.

Let's hope those will be easier to hunt than the vintage BW and G1 reissues.

The 7th Constructicon (Constructibot?) finally returns!

Feels like it's been a Decade since (Road) Hauler got a Toy!

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Thanks to JTPrime17 we have product codes for two toys we already had rumours of: Hauler and Override. Both are voyagers and both are part of the Walmart exclusive Velocitron line made up of redecos. Hauler will of course be a redeco of Grappel, we even saw him already in the recent Wreckers comic. Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

Here are the product numbers.

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override X2
Product Number: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler X1
Product Number: F5762

Someone will no doubt correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only other Voyager figure with a car mode they could use for her is Springer.

I would not be opposed to a triple changing Override though.

The post you quoted mentions which mold Override is said to be retooled from.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Thanks to JTPrime17 we have product codes for two toys we already had rumours of: Hauler and Override. Both are voyagers and both are part of the Walmart exclusive Velocitron line made up of redecos. Hauler will of course be a redeco of Grappel, we even saw him already in the recent Wreckers comic. Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

Here are the product numbers.

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Override X2
Product Number: F5763
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Road Hauler X1
Product Number: F5762

Someone will no doubt correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only other Voyager figure with a car mode they could use for her is Springer.

I would not be opposed to a triple changing Override though.

The post you quoted mentions which mold Override is said to be retooled from.

I know. I’m specifically answering William’s question:

Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

Overcracker wrote:I know. I’m specifically answering William’s question:

Override is said to be a redeco of SS voyager Hot Rod, but that is just a rumour. Then again, which other voyager mold would work for Ovveride?

Ah I see.

Overcracker wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

Not an impossibility, mind you. And it would be infinitely preferable to them using Hot Rod.

Using SS86 Hot Rod to make Cybertron Override would be unforgivable stupidity. And if we see they were indeed that stupid whe, we should all write in to tell them what a ridiculous mistake it is and that they should either backpedal and do Hot Shot - who that mold actually could pull off, making the idea of trying to force it to be Override even dumber - instead... or just scrap the line and make Hauler a Selects figure.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:we should all write in to tell them what a ridiculous mistake it is and that they should either backpedal and do Hot Shot - who that mold actually could pull off, making the idea of trying to force it to be Override even dumber - instead... or just scrap the line and make Hauler a Selects figure.

You understand that has zero chance of working right? There is no way Hasbro would scrap a line just based on a fan letter writing campaign. A decrease in sales is the only real way to get their attention. And even then, it took 2 years of the titans going to liquidation before they scaled back the production runs.

Here's an drawing posted by a fan showing how it might work from the Hot Rod mold, just to give an idea.

Gearslide wrote:The 7th Constructicon (Constructibot?) finally returns!

Feels like it's been a Decade since (Road) Hauler got a Toy!

Very cool indeed! I always felt Hauler was the only Constructicon that went rogue after creation then shortly replaced by Hook to complete the team...'nuff said!

william-james88 wrote:Here's an drawing posted by a fan showing how it might work from the Hot Rod mold, just to give an idea.

Ah, I forgot about Hot Rod's false chest. Using it like that would certainly help a lot.

That said, I'm not sure the transformation scheme would allow the two bits at the front to stick out further than the centre like that. They need to fold under the bonnet, which then also needs to fold up and fit beneath the windscreen. Without retooling some of those joints, I don't think it would have the clearance needed.

william-james88 wrote:Here's an drawing posted by a fan showing how it might work from the Hot Rod mold, just to give an idea.

That seems like it would require an awful lot of retooling to work, more so than most exclusives get. Sure, Netflix Soundwave got a lot of retooling, but can you really compare the popularity of Soundwave (a mold that was already used twice prior) and Override? Then there's Fangry, but again they used that mold so many times they probably already had all the parts tooled just waiting to be used. Can't imagine they planned to reuse Hot Rod as Override from the start.

Emerje

Overcracker wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

If she is indeed being made from Hot Rod, that's a Deluxe sized figure anyway. They could scrap the accessories and use that budget for a heavier retool, and possibly make her a small actual Voyager, rather than a glorified Deluxe.

Bounti76 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

If she is indeed being made from Hot Rod, that's a Deluxe sized figure anyway. They could scrap the accessories and use that budget for a heavier retool, and possibly make her a small actual Voyager, rather than a glorified Deluxe.

True, but it was still sold at Voyager Price point.

Blurr was not.

Blurr would need some add ons for him to be bumped up to Voyager. Hot Rod is already at that price point regardless of his actual size.

Also Blurr has no actual wheels. Which would require a bigger retool for Override in that respect. Though yes I will admit the general shape of Blurr would work for Override if they did go that route.

All this talk of Blurr as Override is reminding me of this:

Overcracker wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

If she is indeed being made from Hot Rod, that's a Deluxe sized figure anyway. They could scrap the accessories and use that budget for a heavier retool, and possibly make her a small actual Voyager, rather than a glorified Deluxe.

True, but it was still sold at Voyager Price point.

Blurr was not.

Blurr would need some add ons for him to be bumped up to Voyager. Hot Rod is already at that price point regardless of his actual size.

And people would bitch and whine so hard about Blurr being sold at the voyager price point since he was a deluxe before, no mater what kind of add ons he gets.


By the way I don't think Blurr's car mode works at all for Override. Blurr is all about straight angles with a long nose/front, Override has more curves to him/her.

Since we’re getting Megalo Convoy (Metroplex) and Nitro Convoy (Override), I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the other Galaxy Force planet leaders too. Maybe Flame Convoy (Scourge) could be a retool of Transmetal 2 Megatron, but how could Hasbro and Takara do Life Convoy (Evac)?

Hey, can anyone here help me out and explain Hauler to me? I'm having a senior moment and am a little confused. I thought Hauler was a yellow/orange crane in the very first episode of G1 that Cliffjumper calls out by name when Hauler is pulling up Hound from the bottom of a cliff. Why is he in this article pic drawn as some comic image and in green? Any info would be appreciated. This is really bothering me and causing me to pull out my gray ear hairs by hand! LOL! Thanks again for any info on Hauler.

Overcracker wrote:Someone will no doubt correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only other Voyager figure with a car mode they could use for her is Springer.

Springer is the only other existing Voyager car mold from the WFC era, yeah.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Here's an drawing posted by a fan showing how it might work from the Hot Rod mold, just to give an idea.

That seems like it would require an awful lot of retooling to work, more so than most exclusives get. Sure, Netflix Soundwave got a lot of retooling, but can you really compare the popularity of Soundwave (a mold that was already used twice prior) and Override? Then there's Fangry, but again they used that mold so many times they probably already had all the parts tooled just waiting to be used. Can't imagine they planned to reuse Hot Rod as Override from the start.

Emerje

I mean, they planned for Siege Magnus and Hound to be GUOP and Hot Shot from the start, Hot Rod doesn't exactly have another pre-existing retool, and Netflix Soundwave had not only the retooling to give himself a new alt mode but also retooled cassettes (and this line is supposed to be the replacement for the Netflix line), so I could see it.

Also I linked to this image back in the early days of this thread, and I still stand by my stance that I would be happy with this if it's what we get.

william-james88 wrote:By the way I don't think Blurr's car mode works at all for Override. Blurr is all about straight angles with a long nose/front, Override has more curves to him/her.

I cannot agree more. Override is supposed to be an actual car, whereas Blurr is a Cybertronian wedge of cheese.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Since we’re getting Megalo Convoy (Metroplex) and Nitro Convoy (Override), I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the other Galaxy Force planet leaders too. Maybe Flame Convoy (Scourge) could be a retool of Transmetal 2 Megatron, but how could Hasbro and Takara do Life Convoy (Evac)?

Scourge would have to be a HEAVY retool to get rid of the TM2 Megs dragon head hand and make it his chest somehow, and that's before considering that Scourge also doesn't have wings. I don't know how I feel about that one.

SciFi80sGameFan wrote:Hey, can anyone here help me out and explain Hauler to me? I'm having a senior moment and am a little confused. I thought Hauler was a yellow/orange crane in the very first episode of G1 that Cliffjumper calls out by name when Hauler is pulling up Hound from the bottom of a cliff. Why is he in this article pic drawn as some comic image and in green? Any info would be appreciated. This is really bothering me and causing me to pull out my gray ear hairs by hand! LOL! Thanks again for any info on Hauler.

You aren't technically wrong, that is where the name Hauler originated from. That appearance in the show was basically Grapple, who was going to be named Hauler, because they thought Grapple/Hauler would be part of the first wave of TFs and the change that led to him not being released that early came too late to scrub him from the first episode. Later on in 2003, the eHobby guys found out about this while working on a Grapple repaint, and thusly due to the collaborative efforts of eHobby and Takara, Hauler has been a green Grapple repaint ever since, with a bio written to explain/retcon why he never showed up in the show again and why he was originally orange. The comic image in the article is just his most recent appearance in media, and 99% likely to be exactly how the figure looks since that design is based directly on the mold that this figure will be using and that comic used other designs from the Legacy toyline (Dragstrip, for starters).

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:To my mind, SS86 Blurr is the most obvious choice.

Remold the front of the car, remold the head and paint apps do everything else.

She even has that "top of the head poking out in the middle of the car" thing Blurr has too.

Except Blurr is a deluxe, and Override is pretty much confirmed to be a Voyager. If it were Blurr, they’d need to add a ton of accessories to bump her / Blurr up to a voyager class figure.

If she is indeed being made from Hot Rod, that's a Deluxe sized figure anyway. They could scrap the accessories and use that budget for a heavier retool, and possibly make her a small actual Voyager, rather than a glorified Deluxe.

True, but it was still sold at Voyager Price point.

Blurr was not.

Blurr would need some add ons for him to be bumped up to Voyager. Hot Rod is already at that price point regardless of his actual size.

And people would bitch and whine so hard about Blurr being sold at the voyager price point since he was a deluxe before, no mater what kind of add ons he gets.

No doubt about that.

Also, Blurr would require more work than Hot Rod, that's for sure.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Someone will no doubt correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only other Voyager figure with a car mode they could use for her is Springer.

Springer is the only other existing Voyager car mold from the WFC era, yeah.

Thanks.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Since we’re getting Megalo Convoy (Metroplex) and Nitro Convoy (Override), I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the other Galaxy Force planet leaders too. Maybe Flame Convoy (Scourge) could be a retool of Transmetal 2 Megatron, but how could Hasbro and Takara do Life Convoy (Evac)?

I feel like Scourge may possibly already be accounted for in ROTB Scourge since, while he turns into a truck, his robot mode is said to look like a cross between those of Cybertron Scourge and Prime Predaking, with the addition of smokestacks.