Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features

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Courtesy of the Snakas Blog, we have images of the presetation video Takara showed at the Wonder Festival where the new Transformers Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee was revealed. The video is all about this new figure and We see the extra faces he will come with along with the inovation fo having his doors open (though we do not know if Spike can sit or not).
The toy has an MSRP of 13000 Yen (which is $120 USD). The images give a good idea of where the bulk of the alt mode end up since very little of it is used in the main figure's design, unlike the previous Masterpiece toy. We see a lot of the alt mode inside his feet and in his backpack. Takara has confirmed at the show to fans that the toy is not mistransformed.

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Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009632)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:34am CST

He looks amazing.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009635)
Posted by ScottyP on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:38am CST

Seibertron wrote:I still stand by my original opinion that they've gone too far in the direction of the cartoon that they are just slavishly giving us cartoon accurate robot modes instead of just good Transformers toys.

When it comes to MP-45, I completely agree here. When it comes to Transformers, there are too many budget shortcuts in the cartoon's animation and mechanical design to go this far. It's not a knock on the cartoon, it is what it is and we all love it. It's also simply not an ideal representation of those characters. Look at the TV episodes compared to the '86 movie - the movie looks exponentially better while doing more or less the same things, it just had the budget to do it!

I think MP-45 is going to be the first MP toy in a very long time that I'm not buying upon its release. That's not easy to do being very close to entirely complete on the MP line so far, but it's the only little thing I can do to tell Takara (and Hasbro since this reeks of Brand Awareness) that this toy isn't worthy of the money they want for it.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009639)
Posted by Bucky on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:47am CST

While I’m not a fan of the lines aesthetic divergence, from a hybrid of cartoonish and realistic, to trying to be slavishly screen accurate to the Sunbow cartoon, I do think Takara deserves a lot of praise for how gorgeous, and accurate these new MPs are. Please note I wouldn’t have any problem with the MP line if had just stuck to the hybrid style, or if it had been purely cartoon styled from the very beginning. It’s the shift in style so far into the toy line that bothers me.

Still, ‘Bee does look great. I think the backpack kibble was kept to a minimum, and folds up nicely by the looks of things. The feet aren’t perfect, but I think you can only do so much. They certainly appear passable from the front, and the sides. When viewed from the back they don’t look so hot, but seeing as how most people, my self included, don’t display their toys facing backwards, I think it’s a reasonable compromise.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009640)
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:48am CST

I read a good point somewhere that I will paraphrase since it’s a great example of toon accuracy gone bonkers. The lines on this new Bee’s face are supposed to replicate the lines we see in the cartoon. However, in the cartoon, those lines exist to show us that his face protrudes and is not flat. The line is the edge between two surfaces at different angles connecting, that’s how those lines are created. But on this toy, those lines are long indentations/grooves along his face. That’s not what he actually had in the cartoon. It’s just a small example to show that by trying to make him look like a frame from the cartoon, they are doing things that the cartoon character doesn’t actually have.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009641)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:49am CST

william-james88 wrote:Courtesy of the Snakas Blog, we have images of the presetation video Takara showed at the Wonder Festival where the new Transformers Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee was revealed. The video is all about this new figure and We see the extra faces he will come with along with the inovation fo having his doors open (though we do not know if Spike can sit or not).
The toy has an MSRP of 13000 Yen (which is $120 USD). The images give a good idea of where the bulk of the alt mode end up since very little of it is used in the main figure's design, unlike the previous Masterpiece toy. We see a lot of the alt mode inside his feet and in his backpack. Takara has confirmed at the show to fans that the toy is not mistransformed.

Bolded that last bit for emphasis.

This thing is an unmitigated piece of junk and a serious step backwards in just about every way. SHAME on you, Takara!

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009645)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on February 11th, 2019 @ 9:10am CST

Why do the headsculpts look way better here than on the actual thing? I really hoped that crazy mess of a backpack was mistransformed, but nope. Dropped the ball on that HasTak! :BANG_HEAD:

I probably wouldn't mind this as much if it weren't for the freakin' 120$ pricetag! :BOOM:

Masterpiece my butt :-x

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009647)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on February 11th, 2019 @ 9:26am CST

ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I still stand by my original opinion that they've gone too far in the direction of the cartoon that they are just slavishly giving us cartoon accurate robot modes instead of just good Transformers toys.
When it comes to MP-45, I completely agree here. When it comes to Transformers, there are too many budget shortcuts in the cartoon's animation and mechanical design to go this far. It's not a knock on the cartoon, it is what it is and we all love it. It's also simply not an ideal representation of those characters. Look at the TV episodes compared to the '86 movie - the movie looks exponentially better while doing more or less the same things, it just had the budget to do it!

I think MP-45 is going to be the first MP toy in a very long time that I'm not buying upon its release. That's not easy to do being very close to entirely complete on the MP line so far, but it's the only little thing I can do to tell Takara (and Hasbro since this reeks of Brand Awareness) that this toy isn't worthy of the money they want for it.

Got to agree completely. To me, what made masterpieces great were the perfect fusion of g1 toon and original toy, with clever yet fun transformation. They were high end sure, but they were still toys. I particularly dont like the fake chests. Makes for over engineered messes. That being said, I still love the beastwars ones, and the fake chests make a bit more sense there. In most cases. Megatron 2.0 ended up being the exception for me, hes still solid and fun, but its gotten to where i dont want these anymore. Not just because of the price point either.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009650)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 11th, 2019 @ 9:51am CST

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009653)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:10am CST

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Courtesy of the Snakas Blog, we have images of the presetation video Takara showed at the Wonder Festival where the new Transformers Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee was revealed. The video is all about this new figure and We see the extra faces he will come with along with the inovation fo having his doors open (though we do not know if Spike can sit or not).
The toy has an MSRP of 13000 Yen (which is $120 USD). The images give a good idea of where the bulk of the alt mode end up since very little of it is used in the main figure's design, unlike the previous Masterpiece toy. We see a lot of the alt mode inside his feet and in his backpack. Takara has confirmed at the show to fans that the toy is not mistransformed.

Bolded that last bit for emphasis.

This thing is an unmitigated piece of junk and a serious step backwards in just about every way. SHAME on you, Takara!

You know something has gone horribly wrong when the toy company has to explicitly state that a figure isn’t mistransformed when showing it off, that’s about as big a warning light as they come

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009657)
Posted by hausjam on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:37am CST

Magic Square or Transform Element should be along soon to make a better version of this.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009658)
Posted by Glarryg on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:38am CST

Sabrblade wrote:

Nicely done. However, the drawing still looks way too compact and well-fitting than the actual item.

Glarryg

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009660)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:45am CST

I've been looking for a reason to use this again, seems very apt looking at this "thing":

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009662)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:47am CST

hausjam wrote:Magic Square or Transform Element should be along soon to make a better version of this.

I'll just play with my original and far superior MP Bumblebee.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009663)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:48am CST

Glarryg wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:

Nicely done. However, the drawing still looks way too compact and well-fitting than the actual item.

Glarryg

Hey, it's not like it's my art.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009664)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 10:49am CST

Hellscream9999 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Courtesy of the Snakas Blog, we have images of the presetation video Takara showed at the Wonder Festival where the new Transformers Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee was revealed. The video is all about this new figure and We see the extra faces he will come with along with the inovation fo having his doors open (though we do not know if Spike can sit or not).
The toy has an MSRP of 13000 Yen (which is $120 USD). The images give a good idea of where the bulk of the alt mode end up since very little of it is used in the main figure's design, unlike the previous Masterpiece toy. We see a lot of the alt mode inside his feet and in his backpack. Takara has confirmed at the show to fans that the toy is not mistransformed.

Bolded that last bit for emphasis.

This thing is an unmitigated piece of junk and a serious step backwards in just about every way. SHAME on you, Takara!

You know something has gone horribly wrong when the toy company has to explicitly state that a figure isn’t mistransformed when showing it off, that’s about as big a warning light as they come

Indeed. Takara, take the hint! If a large enough number of people are asking you if the figure is mistransformed, that means it looks BAD

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009666)
Posted by frogbat on February 11th, 2019 @ 11:02am CST

first time I've been quite underwhelmed by an MP release. I try to keep an open mind, cos they've delivered the goods on many occasions. Mp44 is pretty frightening price wise but I can see why he exists. The head does look like the proportions are off, I'm pretty happy to stick with the older versions of both prime and bee.

Now hound... that's high on my list of must haves.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009667)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 11:09am CST

As an aside, I did think the pins on Hound's head looked like he was a Headmaster.

Then I realised I was confusing him with Hardhead and the pins were probably to do with the face change gimmick.

Back on-topic...

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009669)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on February 11th, 2019 @ 11:22am CST

The masterpiece line has been moving towards a more cartoony look lately yes, but at least there’s some hybridization. I mean look at Hound, he’s pretty damn cartoon accurate but sacrifices next to nothing to achieve that. I think it would be a great shame if the line completely moved away from actual scale car models, I feel like that’s what it’s for, to capture a pretty damn good G1 look while being the actual car they were transforming into. This... this is just weird, like some yellow goblin. My OG MP Bee laughs from his place on my shelf.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009687)
Posted by sol magnus on February 11th, 2019 @ 12:50pm CST

Zobovor wrote:
ilikerobits wrote:...the company is saying "%^$# you" to all of the people who bought their previous products.

Not understanding this. Did your previous Bumblebee toy just vanish in a poof of smoke? Did Takara come to your house and steal it? If you still own the first version, then how does the existence of the second one somehow invalidate it?

...when Takara releases another figure of the same character that we all purchased just a few years ago, it's like telling us all that we have to spend more money on the same character.

What happened to just buying the products you enjoy and have a desire to own? Who is forcing you to spend money on things you don't want? Nobody's going to kick you out of the clubhouse if you choose not to buy a toy.

Zob

Kind of beat me to it.

I do like the increased posability on 2.0. Can't deny it. I like the Chibi VW, but I don't display my figures as cars. I could maybe make a case for keeping it in that mode, but it goes against a lot and it would be hella expensive to purchase just for that.

So, in a nutshell, I will probably wait it out, but I don't hate it. See how I feel after release. I'm not against "kibble" since people are engineering these things the best way available and obtaining amazing, if not "cartoon-ideal" results.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009689)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 12:58pm CST

Why is this new MP Bumblebee priced at $120!? That's nearly what we paid for Sunstreaker just over a year ago! MP-45 Bumblebee is going to be about half the size and is nowhere near the level of engineering and aesthetic beauty that MP Sunstreaker has achieved.

I have a hunch this MP was rushed through production to capitalize on the Bumblebee movie and the nostalgia for the VW Beetle form of Bumblebee. The sad thing is, I can put up with the backpack, since those rarely ever bother me on Transformers toys, but the "heels" of the feet just kill it for me.

Also, Masterpiece Hound when, Takara? You announced him over half a year ago and have shown off nearly finished, fully painted samples, but Bumblebee 2.0, announced just in the past week, is coming out FIRST!?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009692)
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:12pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, Masterpiece Hound when, Takara? You announced him over half a year ago and have shown off nearly finished, fully painted samples, but Bumblebee 2.0, announced just in the past week, is coming out FIRST!?

Blackarachnia is coming out before Hound too

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009693)
Posted by no-one on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:31pm CST

william-james88 wrote:

I have to admit that the nicest looking thing to come from the MPB2 announcement is that sweet wood paneling.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009694)
Posted by Vanleer on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CST

Hmmm... I wonder why this is retailing at $120 when the new Bluestreak and other figures larger but of the same scale are going to retail around $75

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009695)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:37pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, Masterpiece Hound when, Takara? You announced him over half a year ago and have shown off nearly finished, fully painted samples, but Bumblebee 2.0, announced just in the past week, is coming out FIRST!?

Blackarachnia is coming out before Hound too

Really? What has gone wrong with Hound to delay it this much???

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009696)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:41pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, Masterpiece Hound when, Takara? You announced him over half a year ago and have shown off nearly finished, fully painted samples, but Bumblebee 2.0, announced just in the past week, is coming out FIRST!?

Blackarachnia is coming out before Hound too

Which is also weird, but at least Blackarachnia is a brand new Masterpiece character AND from Beast Wars, so her skipping the line a bit isn't as hard to take. What's even weirder, though, is how much of a gap we're getting in between the release of Beast Wars Megatron at the end of March and Optimus Prime 3.0 at the end of August. The only thing we know that's coming in that 5 month span is a repaint of Bluestreak. That gap would have been even longer too, had BW Megatron not been delayed an additional two months!

If Takara is going to be releasing their Masterpiece figures in numerical order, then Bumblebee 2.0, Blackarachnia, and Hound won't be released until much later this year. We're going to have a glut of new (and expensive) Masterpiece toys all releasing in the fall and/or winter when budgets are tighter due to the holidays. Why didn't Takara spread their 2019 releases out more? Hound could have easily been MP-44 and shown up in the spring or summer to shorten the gaps between releases and break up some of the cost to customers over the course of the year. I've got this weird feeling that something happened and threw a wrench into the original plans, and this is the mess we're left with right now.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009697)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 11th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, Masterpiece Hound when, Takara? You announced him over half a year ago and have shown off nearly finished, fully painted samples, but Bumblebee 2.0, announced just in the past week, is coming out FIRST!?

Blackarachnia is coming out before Hound too

Which is also weird, but at least Blackarachnia is a brand new Masterpiece character AND from Beast Wars, so her skipping the line a bit isn't as hard to take. What's even weirder, though, is how much of a gap we're getting in between the release of Beast Wars Megatron at the end of March and Optimus Prime 3.0 at the end of August. The only thing we know that's coming in that 5 month span is a repaint of Bluestreak. That gap would have been even longer too, had BW Megatron not been delayed an additional two months!

If Takara is going to be releasing their Masterpiece figures in numerical order, then Bumblebee 2.0, Blackarachnia, and Hound won't be released until much later this year. We're going to have a glut of new (and expensive) Masterpiece toys all releasing in the fall and/or winter when budgets are tighter due to the holidays. Why didn't Takara spread their 2019 releases out more? Hound could have easily been MP-44 and shown up in the spring or summer to shorten the gaps between releases and break up some of the cost to customers over the course of the year. I've got this weird feeling that something happened and threw a wrench into the original plans, and this is the mess we're left with right now.

But what is that "something" that "happened" :-?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009701)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:18pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:But what is that "something" that "happened"

YOU may be able to help solve a mystery!
(You know, because Ultra Magnus can't deal with that right now.)

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009702)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:22pm CST

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009703)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CST

Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009704)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:26pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

"Dat's the joke."

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009705)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:27pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

Indeed. Yet they are both equally synonymous with Robert Stack, in the eyes of many.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009707)
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:32pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

That is one of the main reasons why he did not make it to this list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ory/32819/

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009709)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:38pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

That is one of the main reasons why he did not make it to this list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ory/32819/

An old list, but I do totally agree with number one. It did raise an initial eyebrow when I saw Orson Welles was only number three, yet by the end of this list I could see why.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009712)
Posted by no-one on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:44pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:joke

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009713)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:56pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

That is one of the main reasons why he did not make it to this list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ory/32819/

Uh, you do understand that Robert Stack was a celebrity and well-established Hollywood actor decades before he did the voice of Ultra Magnus in The Transformers: The Movie, right? Neither Transformers, nor Unsolved Mysteries, started his career. They did keep him relevant in the latter years of his life, though.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009714)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 2:59pm CST

Wasn't The Untouchables his big break?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009715)
Posted by sol magnus on February 11th, 2019 @ 3:01pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wasn't The Untouchables his big break?

He was Elliot Ness!

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009716)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 11th, 2019 @ 3:03pm CST

sol magnus wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wasn't The Untouchables his big break?

He was Elliot Ness!

Yup

You don't get much bigger in The Untouchables than that. Perhaps even a bigger role than Al Capone.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009717)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 11th, 2019 @ 3:03pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:But what is that "something" that "happened"

I suspect they wanted to release Hound first but pushed him back to make sure the new MP Prime doesn't miss the 35th anniversary + they probably threw together that new Bumblebee in time for his solo movie.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009733)
Posted by Lando Tucker on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST

This just makes me sad...I guess I've fallen out of love with the Masterpiece line and haven't bought any since Sunstreaker.

It's not that it's bad: it isn't. And, if I didn't already have a Masterpiece Bumblebee, I'd probably be psyched by this. But I do, and the increasing cost, and endlessly recycled versions of the same character (I don't care if it's animated or 'real world', I just want cool robots that transform into cool things) are killing this line for me.

I may be in the minority here too, but this line has been running for well over a decade and each new figure is constricting, not expanding or enhancing the line, and I don't think we'll ever get anywhere near a full set of anything. My dreams of a Masterpiece Arcee or Blaster will never be realised, and the chance of even getting a Braun or Mirage or Hound or [insert name here] are slim to none.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009734)
Posted by Ultra Markus on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:24pm CST

you would think by having his alt mode be more cartoon accurate in that way there would be less need for folding panels and fake car kibble
looks like they made it worse to achieve a cartoon accurate robot mode
the new optimus prime on the other hand doesnt look this bad

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009741)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on February 11th, 2019 @ 5:44pm CST

I am not going to admit that he looks way better here than at the show. Nope, I'd be giving Takara way too much credit [-(

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009743)
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 5:47pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

That is one of the main reasons why he did not make it to this list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ory/32819/

Uh, you do understand that Robert Stack was a celebrity and well-established Hollywood actor decades before he did the voice of Ultra Magnus in The Transformers: The Movie, right? Neither Transformers, nor Unsolved Mysteries, started his career. They did keep him relevant in the latter years of his life, though.

YeaH, yeah and it was brought up then too. Controversial view point though, i dont think he was that great as Magnus.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009745)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 11th, 2019 @ 5:52pm CST

The problem with that new Bee is that it's 100% a shellformer and they do their best to tuck away the shell as they can.

Is it the future of the MP line? Bots in a pot where the pot alone must be folded like a finicky origami thing?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009746)
Posted by Lore Keeper on February 11th, 2019 @ 6:04pm CST

That moment when little Bumblebee is $40 more expensive than Bluestreak... What times we live in. :-?

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009754)
Posted by Inactive_____ on February 11th, 2019 @ 6:37pm CST

This sort of a backpack feels so incongruous with what I understand the masterpiece line to be.
I can excuse the backpack on something like, say, POTP Rodimus Unicronus, as that was a ~£50 mass retail item that was a toy first and foremost, but Masterpiece, as I understand it, have always struck as the line designed for collectors, so the whole, 'just shove it all on the back, eff it,' is so disappointing. As someone who is only recently in the position to start buying MP figures, this is very disheartening. I can only hope that this design philosophy pivots back to what it was a few years ago.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009763)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 11th, 2019 @ 6:53pm CST

Wow.....

He is tiny, and while the alt mode is cute, that robot is...wow....just wow...

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009778)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on February 11th, 2019 @ 7:34pm CST

carytheone wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
I have to admit that the nicest looking thing to come from the MPB2 announcement is that sweet wood paneling.

It is nice paneling, carrytheone.

Oh, and this MP Bumblebee still sucks like a black hole. it sucks like Unicron at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009779)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 11th, 2019 @ 7:42pm CST

Lando Tucker wrote:I may be in the minority here too, but this line has been running for well over a decade and each new figure is constricting, not expanding or enhancing the line, and I don't think we'll ever get anywhere near a full set of anything. My dreams of a Masterpiece Arcee or Blaster will never be realised, and the chance of even getting a Braun or Mirage or Hound or [insert name here] are slim to none.

Masterpiece Hound is coming, for what it's worth. He is allegedly MP-47, though that would put his release somewhere at the end of 2019 at best. I would be surprised if we didn't eventually get Masterpiece Blaster. We do have two of his cassettes already in the Masterpiece line, though they're certainly not as well known as his buddies from the cartoon.

william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Y'all do know that Stack did Magnus before he did that show, right?

That is one of the main reasons why he did not make it to this list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ory/32819/

Uh, you do understand that Robert Stack was a celebrity and well-established Hollywood actor decades before he did the voice of Ultra Magnus in The Transformers: The Movie, right? Neither Transformers, nor Unsolved Mysteries, started his career. They did keep him relevant in the latter years of his life, though.

YeaH, yeah and it was brought up then too. Controversial view point though, i dont think he was that great as Magnus.

That's fair enough. You left Robert Stack off the list not because he wasn't a "celebrity" guest voice actor, but because you didn't find his performance memorable. Before, it seemed like the implication was he wasn't considered a "celebrity" at the time he did The Transformers: The Movie because he wasn't "famous" until hosting Unsolved Mysteries later on.

Re: Images of Presentation for Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 Showing Features (2009784)
Posted by Seibertron on February 11th, 2019 @ 8:00pm CST

Please refrain from posting the official MP-45 Bumblebee photos until later this week. Thank you.

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