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DecepticonFinishline wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.


Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

Qwan wrote:

Kurona wrote:Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Can confirm looking at mine. I think Jelze also noted the same problem with hers a few posts back? So on top of the stock images featuring the misassembly, I think it's safe to say that every iteration of this mold so far has had the "problem".

I don't have him, I quickly pulled up a YT review on the set. Easy peasy. I do want him for the Deluxe Prime setup, but I'm gonna wait on how the rest of the TR line develops when it comes to availability. I'm gonna stop right there because, well, this is Transformers Legends.

Just saw this post and wanted to share asap for those who are getting the Legends Hot Rod

Olivus Prime wrote:Aaaaand as I suspected, Hot Rod's chest didn't last long, being made out of translucent plastic.

The tight grip between his torso and chest piece meant I had to apply a good amount of force pulling it out for vehicle mode, which resulted in a nasty crack through part of the flame the third time I did it.

I'd suggest filing the sides of the tabs on his chest piece before transforming him too much, if this kind of tight tolerance is widespread.

Man if someone was to describe the fandom nowadays you’d just have to show them the history Titans Return/Legends Kup.

Reveal of art:

oh my god best version of Kup this is awesome!

Reveal of figure:

UGH! Just awful! I’ll wait and see what Takara does! No thanks!

figure is sighted months early at Walgreens:

OH MY GOD! I HAVE TO FIND HIM! I FOUND HIM HES AMAZING!

Takara reveals Legends version:

UGH! GREY!? Worst figure ever! I will only buy 5 so I can recolor a few and have some in package but Titans Return will be ultimate version with their target master!

Takara reveals new images that with cartoon accuracy:

BEST VERSION OF KUP EVER!

Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...WORST.FIGURE.EVER.

It’s certainly a wild ride.

Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Qwan wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Not really. Plenty of people are now just complaining how every figure is busted apparently.

I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

The Kup thing is interesting...but its a modification I will not be making. I can live with him as is.

RodimusRex wrote:I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

Gonna be waiting a long long time for that crosshairs deco since Titans Return is over and power of the primes gimmick for deluxes is Combiners again.

I still don’t understand why people want that. Crosshairs didn’t even turn into a truck he turned into a buggy thing.

Randomhero wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Not really. Plenty of people are now just complaining how every figure is busted apparently.

Ah, but the complaints are about the existence of issues, not how they actually negatively impact the figures that have them. It's the principle of the thing

I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Randomhero wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.


Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

What problem with the Hot Spot hinge? Mine was fine. Same with Onslaught.

The hinge on the three I mentioned are assembled backwards. Which DOES hinder the toys' bot mode. You can't lock the knee in correctly because of this misassembly. It's a HUGE bummer.

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

These are interesting points! I emailed this site about someone doing a (series of?) story/stories about "controversial" aspects to Transformers, and possibly toylines in general? It might be interesting to go through "the muck" and even see that for some aspects, cartoon companies were damned if they did or didn't include religious icons, etc.

william-james88 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

I'm not sure you understood? It wasn't a complaint; it was a tongue in cheek comment referencing that there "could" be heated discussion involving two girls and one...

I can't go any further as that would make me a hypocrit!

Just making light of the content and moving on.

Randomhero wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

Gonna be waiting a long long time for that crosshairs deco since Titans Return is over and power of the primes gimmick for deluxes is Combiners again.

I still don’t understand why people want that. Crosshairs didn’t even turn into a truck he turned into a buggy thing.

Store box sets, Platinum decos, further retools, SDCC exclusives (which often have BOTH Hasbro and TRU exclusives), Hascon exclusives, eHobby, movie line filler, Tribute series... I think we'll see at least half a dozen of these molds again inside five years.

Even the new line has enigmas that use HM sockets (some with faces) and the Last Knight has one true Titan Master and another figure that uses the head socket.

FFS...this thread today...
I'm gonna go finish reading my weekly comics and come back in a few hours and see if this mess has gotten worse.

primalxconvoy wrote:I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

On the plus side, you can plug the extra Scourge heads into the hollow spaces on his gun. In addition to functioning as pilots, spare heads often work as bulk fillers on TM vehicles/guns/accessories.

"Receives email notification about thread update and proceeds to read thread"





Soooo uh are we sure this is an actual misassembly issue and not just some weird intention of the designer or something?

RodimusRex wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

On the plus side, you can plug the extra Scourge heads into the hollow spaces on his gun. In addition to functioning as pilots, spare heads often work as bulk fillers on TM vehicles/guns/accessories.

I've got mine simply waiting his turn in the Trypticon, as he can't stay in the cockpit due to transformation.

I don't think it is a misassembled part but more of a design error, especially if the wheel cover is one whole part.

Arlekkin wrote:I don't think it is a misassembled part but more of a design error, especially if the wheel cover is one whole part.

The wheel cover in question is two parts, but the way it's all held together seems to necessitate sawing one of the pieces in order to detach it. It seems weird for it to be a design error, seeing as it still fits perfectly (and also matches up exactly with the otherwise-misaligned detail) when the panels are swapped. While that could be a coincidence, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that's the case personally.

Deadput wrote:"Receives email notification about thread update and proceeds to read thread"Soooo uh are we sure this is an actual misassembly issue and not just some weird intention of the designer or something?

More likely it isn't the designer's fault, but the fault of whoever did the assembly schematic, otherwise it wouldn't exist in every use of this mold including Takara Tomy's modified version.

Seibertron, if you don't like the mold's flat back then combine the Hasbro guns and plug it into his back as a jetpack, it makes a big difference. Of course you'll then have to find a replacement gun and this doesn't work with the Legends version.

Just noticed when trying to read these comics with Google Translate that it isn't really Dinosaurer running around, but Grimlock's Headmaster controlling Dinosaurer's body. That really brings the whole movie thing with Hot Rod and the Sharkticons together even more.

Emerje

I've been using the combined guns as a jetpack for Tribute Orion Pax, and I have to agree they work pretty well (the flat back majorly bothers me otherwise as well). I had the idea that maybe PRiD Sergeant Kup's cannons could function similarly - knowing that I'm gonna need something to fill in LG Kup's back when he arrives - but I could only find one of them so I can't test for certain if they'd both fit in the holes or not. From a rough estimate with the one I could find though, it looks like it'll be a pretty tight fit if they work at all. Back to the drawing board I guess...

william-james88 wrote:Just saw this post and wanted to share asap for those who are getting the Legends Hot Rod

Olivus Prime wrote:Aaaaand as I suspected, Hot Rod's chest didn't last long, being made out of translucent plastic.

The tight grip between his torso and chest piece meant I had to apply a good amount of force pulling it out for vehicle mode, which resulted in a nasty crack through part of the flame the third time I did it.

I'd suggest filing the sides of the tabs on his chest piece before transforming him too much, if this kind of tight tolerance is widespread.

Awww that sucks to read...thanks for posting that WJ. I just may consider getting a 2nd one just to be safe keeping the other forever in alt-mode.

Hi,


Okay, first off this is my first post so Hello to everyone.

Second, that is one dangerous method to get the desired result. I used two thin pointed nail files to release the latches on either side of the fender well then pried the panel out while applying heat with a soldering pen to the rivet. Done in reverse to reassemble. Finished the mod in about two minutes. Hope this helps.

Only one tiny divet where the point of the pen slipped off the rivet. Totally hidden on both modes. Also just me not having the pen gripped firmly enough lol.


Thanks for pointing this flaw out.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.


Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

What problem with the Hot Spot hinge? Mine was fine. Same with Onslaught.

The hinge on the three I mentioned are assembled backwards. Which DOES hinder the toys' bot mode. You can't lock the knee in correctly because of this misassembly. It's a HUGE bummer.

Like I said, I didn't even know I could lock the knees for 11 months on hotspot and he stood and posed just fine. Wasn't till it was discovered on pyra Magnus that I even knew you could on the hotspot and onslaught so it wasn't even something gave a frown over

william-james88 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

This has now been solved by creating another thread (as we should've done a while ago, I realise).
All Legends comic/manga related news and discussion has been moved to here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=110033

It starts with the prologue to LG45, and will include more as I find spare time to move more posts through from this thread.

Thank you.

Va'al wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

This has now been solved by creating another thread (as we should've done a while ago, I realise).
All Legends comic/manga related news and discussion has been moved to here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=110033

It starts with the prologue to LG45, and will include more as I find spare time to move more posts through from this thread.

Thank you.

But why? Shouldn't it have been the Kup misassembly that'd got its own thread instead? Since its a widespread flaw across the Titans Return and Orion Pax versions of the mold too?

Sabrblade wrote:

Va'al wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

This has now been solved by creating another thread (as we should've done a while ago, I realise).
All Legends comic/manga related news and discussion has been moved to here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=110033

It starts with the prologue to LG45, and will include more as I find spare time to move more posts through from this thread.

Thank you.

But why? Shouldn't it have been the Kup misassembly that'd got its own thread instead? Since its a widespread flaw across the Titans Return and Orion Pax versions of the mold too?

The comic is a comic based on the toys. It is not the toys. This is the toys forum, so we can keep discussing toys. The comic news has been moved to the comics section.

We are currently discussing with staff ways of streamlining the megathreads, as they are mostly useful for news purposes but do get cumbersome for a lot of users. This is one step towards that.

Here's the real question: If all Kups and Orion Paxes were assembled "incorrectly", doesn't that mean that anyone who fixes their figure now actually has the incorrect assembly? Since it's different from what was massed produced.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Here's the real question: If all Kups and Orion Paxes were assembled "incorrectly", doesn't that mean that anyone who fixes their figure now actually has the incorrect assembly? Since it's different from what was massed produced.

Yes, and as someone that buys figures that I missed out on and and sells figures that I am done with, anyone "fixing" their figures have just potentially reduced their resale value. I've passed on a number of figures on ebay where the sellers indicated they "fixed" and issue by cutting tabs or shaving down parts. The shoulder issue on FOC Jazz/Sideswipe comes to mind. The thing is, an ebay buyer has no way of knowing whether the seller knew what they were doing when "fixing" an issue, so there is no way I'm bidding on something where the buyer claims to have fixed something that cannot be restored to original. This is specifically why I bought a new set of springs for Trypticon, instead of cutting the originals.

Just one more thing to consider if anyone is thinking about modifying their figures.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Here's the real question: If all Kups and Orion Paxes were assembled "incorrectly", doesn't that mean that anyone who fixes their figure now actually has the incorrect assembly? Since it's different from what was massed produced.

The idea that the finished product, whether intended by the designers to be assembled as such or not, is the "correct" assembly because that's what it is? Death of the Designer eh, an interesting proposition

Sorry, double post

Hmmm, tried to edit a typo and ended up with a new post, sorry.

What's happening here lately? also, i'm just waiting for LG-Overlord and LG-Sixshot, i bet there will be fanmodes of these guys.

Speaking of Targetmasters.....





I found the Destron Targetmasters are the best in the entire TR Line compared to the others.

I'm going to bank on this being a design issue and not an assembly error. Look at the initial CAD renders we saw for the toy. The panels are visible in three places, and are only "lined up" in one of them. All the official product shots using samples from Hasbro and Takara are like what got released at retail.

For whatever reason, the offset paneling is how this got designed. Whether that was a mistake on someone's part during the process can be debated (meant to correct and forgot, etc), but I'm very suspect of it being an assembly problem.

ScottyP wrote:I'm going to bank on this being a design issue and not an assembly error. Look at the initial CAD renders we saw for the toy. The panels are visible in three places, and are only "lined up" in one of them. All the official product shots using samples from Hasbro and Takara are like this.

For whatever reason, the offset paneling is how this got designed. Whether that was a mistake on someone's part during the process can be debated (meant to correct and forgot, etc), but I'm very suspect of it being an assembly problem.

I follow your logic... but also, Krok's Titan Master Gatorface had in every single one of his CAD renders his legs misassembled backwards. Even in his shots with Trypticon.

Christ, how do you misassemble a goddamn 3D render? Especially of such a simple design?

Black Hat wrote:Christ, how do you misassemble a goddamn 3D render? Especially of such a simple design?

Two possible ways:
1. Intern
2. One too many cocktails at lunch.

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Cobotron wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Christ, how do you misassemble a goddamn 3D render? Especially of such a simple design?

Two ways:
1. Intern
2. One too many cocktails at lunch.

Quite possible.

It just seems so bizarre. I mean if it was a highly complex triple-changer or something I can understand the 3D model not being quite right. But on a Titan Master? A figure of less than 10 parts where every single version is assembled exactly the same? Whatever, I'm just glad it didn't follow through onto the actual figure.

That Kup thing does not bother me in the slightest, and Randomhero had a great point about it. It really is something that should have been found a long time ago if anyone really would have cared about it

Cobotron wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Christ, how do you misassemble a goddamn 3D render? Especially of such a simple design?

Two possible ways:
1. Intern
2. One too many cocktails at lunch.

I'm thinking a lot of assembly is done by machine now, which of course would be one explanation for the errors. But it is odd that both and product are manufactured at the same location but seems to have better QC...

Nightreaper78 wrote:Hi,


Okay, first off this is my first post so Hello to everyone.

Second, that is one dangerous method to get the desired result. I used two thin pointed nail files to release the latches on either side of the fender well then pried the panel out while applying heat with a soldering pen to the rivet. Done in reverse to reassemble. Finished the mod in about two minutes. Hope this helps.

Only one tiny divet where the point of the pen slipped off the rivet. Totally hidden on both modes. Also just me not having the pen gripped firmly enough lol.


Thanks for pointing this flaw out.

Welcome to Seibertron and thanks for your contribution.
Any flicks to go with your specific mod of the figure?

TF-fan kev777 wrote: This is specifically why I bought a new set of springs for Trypticon, instead of cutting the originals.

As i, surprisingly, have not gotten Trypty yet, is there any quick info you can give to the specs of your new replacement springs?

triKlops wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote: This is specifically why I bought a new set of springs for Trypticon, instead of cutting the originals.

As i, surprisingly, have not gotten Trypty yet, is there any quick info you can give to the specs of your new replacement springs?

Any chance you live in the midwest? I got mine at Menards and can tell you the exact part/item number when I get home. I actually found 1 that I was able to cut in half and use for both hips, so I have the other one still in package somewhere in my basement. I'll check when I get home.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

triKlops wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote: This is specifically why I bought a new set of springs for Trypticon, instead of cutting the originals.

As i, surprisingly, have not gotten Trypty yet, is there any quick info you can give to the specs of your new replacement springs?

Any chance you live in the midwest? I got mine at Menards and can tell you the exact part/item number when I get home. I actually found 1 that I was able to cut in half and use for both hips, so I have the other one still in package somewhere in my basement. I'll check when I get home.

Rhode Island but thank you for any info.
Much appreciated.

Ok, I am sorry but I don't have a camera to do flicks or pics but the original post by william-james88 has pics that will show you the location of one latch and the slots into which they go. Picture 3 the person doing the saw blade mod is pointing to the first latch with some kind of metal hook. The second latch is on the opposite side of a hinge. Look in picture 4 for two holes where the top left and right corners of the problem panels are. Pop the two latches. Apply outward pressure to the panel (pry gently) then heat the rivet it should literally just come right loose along with the wheel. once you have both panels and wheels loose simply switch the panels then push them together and heat the rivet. The panel will pop neatly back into place.


On the subject of Tryp, there is also an easier fix for that than cutting springs. The two cogs inside his hip are miss molded in the center on problem hips. They made the cross shaped hole crooked. If you take (again) a nail file and file the hole out to where it slides up and down the post easier then lube the teeth of the two ratchet cogs with white lithium grease the hip should never seize up again. Mine hasn't.

Cobotron wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Christ, how do you misassemble a goddamn 3D render? Especially of such a simple design?

Two possible ways:
1. Intern
2. One too many cocktails at lunch.

Or one too few cocktails at lunch?